Pliny Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Of course the main thing about Negroes that makes them Negroes is the color of their skin. But it goes far deeper. Apparently, if you are a Republican Negro or conservative, you are not quite a Negro, you are a white person in Negro skin and deserve to be called an Oreo or Uncle Tom or sumpin' like that. Herman Cain seems to deserve the derision of the Democrats as he doesn't represent the "typical" Black person. Republicans are just using him like they have throughout the history of the US. Just ask, Senator Bird (oh too late, he daid!) former KKK member who knew Blacks had a place in America and should be defined as equal citizens needing the aid of the Democratic politician to make anything of himself at all. Blacks should be grateful for all the Democrats do for them. Of course, Harry Belafonte doesn't seem too enamoured with Cain, either. He don't represent the Black community. What is the Black community Mr. Belafonte? Is that what they call "the Hood"? Is that what it is? Is it seperate from the American community? Is it a community that deserves retribution from the rest of America for it's oppressive past? I'm glad to see that you have kept your place and accepted how Democrats have defined your community for you, Mr. Belafonte. You owe them a big debt for ensuring America understands who and what the Black community is. It seems the, Jesse Jackson's and Al Shapiro's of America accept that definition. They rub the sores and assuage the pain of what it means to be Black in America. Or do they rub salt in the wounds and aggravate the pains of yesterday? Reminding them to be exacting in their demands upon society because they deserve special treatment. It's "social justice". If they don't demand it then they are not truly Black and are still slaves to Republican/Conservative America and don't know their place. Their "place"? It seems they do have a "place". Since they have been kept illiterate and poor for the last two centuries they need to do some catching up. Their place is to receive from society and keep themselves seperate ensuring the preservation of their Black identity in society. Not doing so is not being Black. Democrats/liberals agree and will provide. But, and it is a big but, you have to remember to vote Democrat because the Republicans will not be granting you your special "place" with all the accompanying privilege to help the Black community. It's a wonderful relationship. Democrat's are so compassionate and as long as the Black community remembers their place and votes Democrat, privileges will continue to be provided. The Black community can be forever grateful and the Democrats will forever be in power for as long as angry white racist Republicans are put in their place. Hmmmm....Seems they have a "place", too! Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
jbg Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Blacks should start voting as individuals. There is no reason for them or any group to vote in lockstep except on immediately important issues such as civil rights. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BC_chick Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Pliny, people said the same things about Obama when it comes to being out of touch with the black community. Spin away as you wish, but this is not about Cain's political affiliation. Also, as for why people say these things about politicians being out of touch with a certain demographic - again, please. Republicans have mastered the art of saying Democrats are out of touch with the average voter. Joe the plumber - enough said. The only thing that makes it so taboo to say a politician is out of touch with the black community (vs. being out of touch with say middle-America) is that you're bringing race into the equation. Oh, the horror! Edited November 2, 2011 by BC_chick Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
dre Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Blacks should start voting as individuals. There is no reason for them or any group to vote in lockstep except on immediately important issues such as civil rights. Who says they dont vote as individuals? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Who says they dont vote as individuals? Mostly white people! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Pliny Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Cool rant bro. Gee...thanks! Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Shady Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 It's pretty well known that the left doesn't much care for conservative minorities. They feel as thojugh they've strayed off the reservation when they don't fall in line and conform to the liberal way of thinking. Quote
Pliny Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Who says they dont vote as individuals? I think jbg suggested that. You can check back on the thread but I'm pretty sure it was him. Well, you must know that... you quoted him????? Really though we know individuals are useless. Solidarity on issues is effective. Special interest rules. Unfortunately, it makes little difference to a "special interest" group what their vote means to the country. No politician wants to be bothered buying "a" vote. As long as Blacks know they are different than whites and Oreos, and understand their place with respect to Democrats, who love and understand the Black community and know it is completely different than white America, unlike the racist Republicans who try and paint Blacks the same as everyone else, then Blacks will vote for them. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Pliny Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 It's pretty well known that the left doesn't much care for conservative minorities. They feel as thojugh they've strayed off the reservation when they don't fall in line and conform to the liberal way of thinking. Democrats just want to help, Shady. It's their duty, their purpose, their raison d'etre. You can't go to a Republican for help - he'll make you pay for it or something. The Democrat will help you for "free" whether you want it or not - affirmative action, gay marriage, free education, free health care....you got it. No need to worry - someone else will pay. Democrats know and understand the poor, the blacks, the gay... they are the oppressed in society. The ones who need their helping hand and fulfill them, they will mutually realize their purpose. The Democrats are the givers of joy and they are the receivers of Democrat benevolence. It is unfortunate that the Republicans destroyed the economy and there are such slim pickens, otherwise Nirvana could have been achieved. A chicken in every pot, no child left behind, everyone literate, the end of poverty, universal healthcare, a roof over everyone's head - the American Dream - all for free. Damn those Republicans! Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
jbg Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Blacks should start voting as individuals. There is no reason for them or any group to vote in lockstep except on immediately important issues such as civil rights. Who says they dont vote as individuals? The point I'm making is some should take positions on the right, as does Cain, some on the left, as does Obama, and some in between. Being on the right does not make you "un-black". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
wyly Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Blacks should start voting as individuals. There is no reason for them or any group to vote in lockstep except on immediately important issues such as civil rights. you mean like jews don't vote in lockstep?... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Pliny Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Posted November 3, 2011 you mean like jews don't vote in lockstep?... It is a democracy and privileges and favours are best acquired by forming special interest voting blocs. I think you are saying Jews are no different than Blacks and vote themselves favours too. dre might ask you, "Who says Jews don't vote as individuals?" The point is that Democrats like to keep their voting base in check and in their place. As one Black lady on TV said, they like it when Blacks stay on the plantation, they will get their check as long as you vote for them. Republicans just want you to die on the street. Democrats seem to be of three stripes. The ones that wield the power, the ones that truly wish to help the down and out and the disadvantaged, and the down and out and disadvantaged themselves. The ones that wield the power are getting paid handsomely, the down and out and disadvantaged are getting a pittance, never enough to improve themselves, and the ones that wish to truly help are paying the bill for both. Now here I am defining the Democrat for democrats. But it is time someone started driving a wedge between the truly compassionate Democrat and the exploiters of the less fortunate. The disadvantaged enjoy at least a pittance of financial help from their exploiters but they are hardly encouraged to try and realize any self-potential. They are what they are and things will never change except to get worse and one has to worry about the constant threat that whatever welfare does come their way just may get cut off - especially from the meany Republicans. I am of the belief that there would be more than enough wealth to give the truly needy and disadvantaged in society support - At least in western society as long as the golden goose isn't fleeced entirely. It is the fact that their are able individuals who are made and encouraged to remain victims and are making a mockery of those who truly can't make it on their own. It has even become a ploy of Democrats, the top stripe, that no one really does "make it" on their own and therefore they have the right to determine a redistribution of wealth through taxation and welfare calling it social justice and economic equality. As more and more people are made victims of society and more and more expect some form of compensation, entitlement, retribution, privilege, favour, bailout, subsidy, etc. the truly needy suffer with a pittance requiring they meet the ever increasing stringent criteria, the defined standard, of being disadvantaged. There is one economic law that needs to be thoroughly understood. It applies to everyone, from the fat cats on Wall Street to the homeless in the gutters. It is that, everyone will attempt to improve themselves and their position, whatever that means to them personally, whether it is scoring the next hit, or making the big sale, finding that great item in a dumpster or creating risky derivatives for suckers to invest in, or scoring a regular flow of entitlement. And one of the factors that governs this attempt to improve one's position is the degree of effort it requires to do so. Generally we will all choose the easiest route to achieve our goals and we will even abandon goals in favour of some other advantage. Democrats like to call this greed. But for some reason greed is only a symptom of the rich and never a vice of the poor. As though we are somehow more humane when we are poor. It is only true that we are weaker when we are poor. We are alone and less of a threat - a position that others might like to see if they feel threatened by people at all. After all, there is scarcity in the world and someone might take someone elses share - Back! Back! You miserable curs! I can go on but for lack of time will have to leave it there for now. Have a glorious day! Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Guest Peeves Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) Back! Back! You miserable curs!I can go on but for lack of time will have to leave it there for now. Have a glorious day! I'm appreciative that you took the time you did. A very interesting embodiment of your philosophical views. I am enjoying the discourse. Please to continue anon. Edited November 3, 2011 by Peeves Quote
jbg Posted November 3, 2011 Report Posted November 3, 2011 you mean like jews don't vote in lockstep?... No they don't. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Peeves Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 No they don't. They used to more so than now apparently. Quote
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