msj Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 That's right, we don't know; but what's interesting is that you go on to claim your perception as "fact" even as you acknowledge this. It was "around 8:00," according to the article in the opening post, and out of curiosity, I checked the weather channel for the "sunrise" time in Toronto these days - 7:50am, ie: around 8:am, so it was dawn, which can be described as 'still dark' or 'not light yet.' Certainly it's not as light as it is at 10:00 in the morning, as you seem to think the videos indicated. This is particularly ignorant on your part AW. The "ambush" occurred on Monday, October 24. While the sunrise for Oct 30 is around 7:50AM Toronto's sunrise changes by between 1 to 2 minutes per day. That is, the sunrise on October 24 was ~ 7:40AM. So 8AM is about 20 minutes post sun rise. That part is fine. The ignorant part is that you appear to think that, bam!, all of a sudden the sun rises and it is light out. Any time before that it isn't. It's "dark" as Rob Ford would say. Or it's "not light yet" as you would write. Well, as a runner who runs in the morning let me assure you that when the sun rose at 8:02AM on Saturday in my part of the world and I was driving to meet my running buddies around 7:45AM it was indeed very light out. By the time the sun rose at 8:02 it was daylight and by the time 8:15AM got around (i.e. 15 minutes after sun rise) it was very bright out. So, I recommend that you get up early and see for yourself how bright it is 15 to 20 minutes after sunrise. Who knows, maybe it will make you healthy, wealthy, and wise. But I doubt it.... Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
WWWTT Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Mary Walsh has always mixed her leftwing politics into her comedy, from back in the early days of "This Hour has 22 Minutes". Most times it was funny but once in a while she obviously let her own politics colour the humour, to the point where ONLY other lefties would find it funny! She would mock the man for being a rightwinger and not for anything he may have done. The other members of the troupe didn't seem to do do that. You couldn't really tell their personal politics 'cuz they mocked EVERYBODY equally! I could never say the same for Mary Walsh. I am not going to argue where on the political spectrum Mary Walsh stands. But no elected official is above being critisized or is "off-limits" Typically the right wing politicians are given a harder rap from the lefties and left wing politicians are given the harder rap from the righties. Are you saying Rob Ford is "off limits" and in no way should be approached? If Rob Ford chooses to use the 911 service to deal with critisizm(in his own mind) coming from a comedian,then he's going to have to eventually answer for that! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Shwa Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Posted October 31, 2011 I disagree.Rob Ford has provided some excellent comedy for us, and will most likely continue to produce AAA material for the rest of his term. Absolutely! And I can't wait until the next Fordian gaff or shenanigan. Rob F-King Ford is comedy gold! Quote
Boges Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Keith Olberman is so Shitteh that MSNBC fired him. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) I am not going to argue where on the political spectrum Mary Walsh stands. But no elected official is above being critisized or is "off-limits" Typically the right wing politicians are given a harder rap from the lefties and left wing politicians are given the harder rap from the righties. Are you saying Rob Ford is "off limits" and in no way should be approached? If Rob Ford chooses to use the 911 service to deal with critisizm(in his own mind) coming from a comedian,then he's going to have to eventually answer for that! WWWTT Off limits? Not at all! It's just that I expect some impartiality from media sources. Especially with the CBC, which is publicly funded. I've never seen that with Mary Walsh. She used to make Mike Harris the butt of some jokes, all those years ago. I never heard any jokes against Bob Rae when he was with the NDP! Her bias was clear to anyone who was a regular viewer in those days. I'm not impressed with slagging leftwing personalities either but I really do think it's more prominent coming from the left. A rightwinger will say that some Leftie's proposal is stupid and ill-considered. A Leftie will say that a rightwinger PERSONALLY is stupid! He'll make some juvenile joke about his target's character. Being mayor of what to me is a foreign city anyway (Toronto the Damned!) I really don't care about Ford per se or this specific issue. I'm just commenting on what I perceive as bias and hypocrisy from his critics! As I've said before, bad character is NORMAL for ANY politician! So why all this focus from the Left? I think it's because the Left knows that Ford's policies are indeed popular with the majority of Toronto citizens. That's why he won the election! What's the Left supposed to do, criticize what the majority wanted? That will hold on to their base but it won't buy them enough other votes to get their kind of guy in next time. Toronto is feeling a "tax revolt" and there IS a feeling that there has been too many snouts in the trough! So policies are out as targets. That leaves character and personalities. They have to try hard to make Ford look like a dork personally, hoping that people will forget about the issues and policies that made them vote for him in the first place! It's really rather shallow, when you think about it. Edited October 31, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Black Dog Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Being mayor of what to me is a foreign city anyway (Toronto the Damned!) I really don't care about Ford per se or this specific issue. I'm just commenting on what I perceive as bias and hypocrisy from his critics! As I've said before, bad character is NORMAL for ANY politician! So why all this focus from the Left? I think it's because the Left knows that Ford's policies are indeed popular with the majority of Toronto citizens. That's why he won the election! What's the Left supposed to do, criticize what the majority wanted? That will hold on to their base but it won't buy them enough other votes to get their kind of guy in next time. Toronto is feeling a "tax revolt" and there IS a feeling that there has been too many snouts in the trough! So policies are out as targets. That leaves character and personalities. They have to try hard to make Ford look like a dork personally, hoping that people will forget about the issues and policies that made them vote for him in the first place! It's really rather shallow, when you think about it. You aren't from Toronto and by your own admission you don't care what happens here. You also clearly don't follow what's been going on if you think there isn't copious and vocal criticism of Ford's policies (such as they are) You're out of your element here. Edited October 31, 2011 by Black Dog Quote
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Off limits? Not at all! It's just that I expect some impartiality from media sources. Especially with the CBC, which is publicly funded. Are you kidding? This isn't the news it's a comedy program. Quote
Boges Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Are you kidding? This isn't the news it's a comedy program. Yeah but most aren't talking about 22 minutes anymore. If anyone still cares about this story anymore they're discussing the story CBC released Thursday about Ford's 911 call. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Are you kidding? This isn't the news it's a comedy program. Or is it a group wanting to make political statements and if challenged HIDE behind being a comedy program? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 They made political statements when the Liberals were in power too and Marg Delahunty "ambushed" Chretien. So, no. I wouldn't say they're idealogues out to lambast a particular political view. Quote
Shwa Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Posted October 31, 2011 Or is it a group wanting to make political statements and if challenged HIDE behind being a comedy program? Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 They made political statements when the Liberals were in power too and Marg Delahunty "ambushed" Chretien. So, no. I wouldn't say they're idealogues out to lambast a particular political view. From what I remember, she never ambushed Chretien in his driveway! It was out front of the House of Commons chamber. All those "ambushes" of various political figures were there, in the middle of the day when it was obvious who they were and if someone didn't know about "Warrior Marg" there were lots of people who would tell them. After they had done it more than once they were a known figure at the House and everyone not only knew the score but could play up to it for political advantage. She was nice to Preston Manning, I'll give her that. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
capricorn Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Yeah but most aren't talking about 22 minutes anymore. Plus, This Hour is not produced by the CBC. The CBC buys the episodes from the producer and airs them. Halifax Film was established by former Salter Street Films executives Michael Donovan and Charles Bishop in 2005. The company has many former employees of Salter and produces television shows such as the satirical comedy This Hour Has 22 Minutes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Film Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
WWWTT Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 From what I remember, she never ambushed Chretien in his driveway! It was out front of the House of Commons chamber. All those "ambushes" of various political figures were there, in the middle of the day when it was obvious who they were and if someone didn't know about "Warrior Marg" there were lots of people who would tell them. After they had done it more than once they were a known figure at the House and everyone not only knew the score but could play up to it for political advantage. She was nice to Preston Manning, I'll give her that. I don't think it would have bein too easy for her to approach Cretien at 24 Sussex dr. I am sure if it was she would have done so WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Keepitsimple Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Interesting how numerous times, the CBC had Chief Blair on Power and Politics to talk up support for the Long Gun Registry. Isn't it interesting that they have never invited him back to talk about the Rob Ford 911 "story". Why do you suppose that might be? Is it because they have already effectively called him a liar? Edited October 31, 2011 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Boges Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Interesting how numerous times, the CBC had Chief Blair on Power and Politics to talk up support for the Long Gun Registry. Isn't it interesting that they have never invited him back to talk about the Rob Ford 911 "story". Why do you suppose that might be? Is it because they have already effectively called him a liar?he called them liars. FTFY Quote
The_Squid Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Interesting how numerous times, the CBC had Chief Blair on Power and Politics to talk up support for the Long Gun Registry. Isn't it interesting that they have never invited him back to talk about the Rob Ford 911 "story". Why do you suppose that might be? Is it because they have already effectively called him a liar? It's not really a national story.... usually Power and Politics covers stories that have implications beyond just Toronto. I wouldn't expect them to talk about civic politics. Plus there are numerous things they can be covering. Despite the fact that it is a 30 page topic on this forum, it's a pretty minor story in the grand scheme of Canadian politics. Quote
mentalfloss Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Interesting how numerous times, the CBC had Chief Blair on Power and Politics to talk up support for the Long Gun Registry. Isn't it interesting that they have never invited him back to talk about the Rob Ford 911 "story". Why do you suppose that might be? Is it because they have already effectively called him a liar? Guys, please keep it up. This is gold material. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 I love how people are trying to turn this into a partisan political deal, when even Conservative brass has had a "chat" with Ford, telling him to smarten up. Quote
Shwa Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Posted November 1, 2011 Guys, please keep it up. This is gold material. They've run out of tinfoil in Markham. Quote
Rick Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 I love how people are trying to turn this into a partisan political deal, when even Conservative brass has had a "chat" with Ford, telling him to smarten up. Rob Ford could be found guilty of being a paedophile and still, the right wing here would defend his sorry ass. Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
mentalfloss Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 The gift that keeps on giving... Rob Ford's receptionist flees as warrior princesses descend About a dozen costumed protesters — mostly women dressed as CBC character Marg Delahunty, Warrior Princess — couldn’t trick or treat their way into Mayor Rob Ford’s city hall office Monday. As they tugged on the locked glass door to the reception area, the young male receptionist avoided eye contact — resisting an offered plate of Halloween cookies — and fled to an inside office, leaving them in the hall. Thankfully, nobody called 911. Those protesting Ford’s reaction to a comedian on his driveway — he called police and swore at a 911 operator when officers failed to arrive promptly — put down their plastic swords and gave up. “I think he’s unqualified to be mayor ... he’s not the chief executive of a major metropolitan city,” said Gayle Hurmuses, who organized the bit of pointed whimsy through a http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=208178215920348 Facebook pageEND that said 247 had promised to attend. “What motivated me was just calling attention to the idiocy of him calling 911 on Marg Delahunty.” Jack Cunningham, who teaches history at a U of T-affiliated centre, dressed in black as Leonard Cohen and wore a “Stop Ford” button. He said he was protesting Ford’s “contempt for the arts, poor judgment and bad temper.” The mood brightened when Tom Beyer, Ford’s jovial assistant usually behind the reception desk, came out, accepted two cookies, gave them some Double Bubble in return and said: “Thanks for coming — you ladies look great. Fantastic, very impressive.” http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1079184--rob-ford-s-receptionist-flees-as-warrior-princesses-descend?bn=1 Quote
Boges Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Perhaps those idiots should join the Occupy Toronto protesters. Quote
guyser Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) Perhaps those idiots should join the Occupy Toronto protesters. I doubt Rob Ford would sleep in a tent. Doug might, but not Rob. Edited November 1, 2011 by guyser Quote
Shwa Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) I doubt Rob Ford would sleep in a tent. Doug might, but not Rob. I think Rob might if it was for team bonding or something like that. Like a camp out. Good luck finding a suitable inflatable mattress though... Edited November 1, 2011 by Shwa Quote
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