Jack Weber Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 mhm http://www.ilo.org/ilolex/cgi-lex/convde.pl?C029 Officials of the administration, even when they have the duty of encouraging the populations under their charge to engage in some form of labour, shall not put constraint upon the said populations or upon any individual members thereof to work for private individuals, companies or associations. OK...But I think that organization has bigger fish to fry with say..Forced labour camps in China than a potential work stoppage at Air Canada... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olp1fan Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 OK...But I think that organization has bigger fish to fry with say..Forced labour camps in China than a potential work stoppage at Air Canada... Did China sign the document? cause Canada did Quote
TimG Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Did China sign the document? cause Canada didAny absurd comparison. Any union member is free to quit their job if the do not wish to comply. e.g. no forced labour. Only people that want to keep their air canada job are "forced" to work. Quote
Boges Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) 3., Harper prorogued parliament at the beginning of the 2008 financial meltdown to save his own ass with no regards to the very fragile economy yet Air Canada is a bigger threat to the economy should the workers go on strike? Yeah because PM Stephane Dion and Deputy PM Jack Layton supported by the BQ would have been sooooo much better for the economy. Edited October 11, 2011 by Boges Quote
Tilter Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) ive never seen a private company be forced back to work before Air canada a "private" company???? I don't think so--- Maybe publicly owned but the Canadian govt is a large part owner. Every time A/C gets into financial trouble they are bailed out by government money. NO ONE employed by a town, city, province or government of Canada, school, railroad or airline in Canada should be able to strike. They are snivel servants or at least vital to the operation of the country. Even the USA will not tolerate the interruption of aviation services. They fired all the Air traffic controllers on strike, giving back to the public traveller the means to travel cross country quickly The interruption that would be caused by the largest Canadian passenger service would cause too much chaos for the proper operation of the country. Along with government approved monopolies come public responsibilities and A/C was given the Air Travel monopoly for long enough to let them become the Canada's largest & most necessary airline here. Edited October 11, 2011 by Tilter Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 However,a Work to Rule campaign might be the best way to avoid The Ministress of Management's wrath.. Not only that, but if Air Canada employees all did their jobs there would be dramatic increases in customer satisfaction and corporate profitability. Quote The government should do something.
Wilber Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Air canada a "private" company???? I don't think so--- Maybe publicly owned but the Canadian govt is a large part owner. Every time A/C gets into financial trouble they are bailed out by government money. NO ONE employed by a town, city, province or government of Canada, school, railroad or airline in Canada should be able to strike. They are snivel servants or at least vital to the operation of the country. Even the USA will not tolerate the interruption of aviation services. They fired all the Air traffic controllers on strike, giving back to the public traveller the means to travel cross country quickly The interruption that would be caused by the largest Canadian passenger service would cause too much chaos for the proper operation of the country. Along with government approved monopolies come public responsibilities and A/C was given the Air Travel monopoly for long enough to let them become the Canada's largest & most necessary airline here. [/quote You should check your info. The government "bailout" consisted of a 200M loan at 12.75% . Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
olp1fan Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Air Canada is a private company, this is fact Tilter Harper better watch his back because the people are getting restless and stupid decisions like this will put him in danger by anyone he attempts to screw over General Strike coming to a city near you soon Edited October 11, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
olp1fan Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 "Air Canada strike could lead to labour code change" According to Lisa Rait, I have a feeling if it comes down to that, that we'll see a very violent shift in this country towards conservative politicians...lets hope it doesn't come down to that though Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 "Air Canada strike could lead to labour code change" I know you are a fair and unbiased observer so I'm sure you would support the immediate abolition of the Air Canada Act. Quote The government should do something.
olp1fan Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) I know you are a fair and unbiased observer so I'm sure you would support the immediate abolition of the Air Canada Act. yes I do, they shouldn't be subsidized but it is still a private company and is not considered as an essential service Edited October 11, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
cybercoma Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Government is not an essential service. That's why it's ok to prorogue parliament, but it's not ok for Air Canada employees or Canada Post workers to go on strike. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 yes I do Great, I am glad you are in favour of abolishing the Air Canada Act. Of course, that would mean major layoffs at Air Canada for rank and file workers, and the almost certain relocation and downsizing of their bloated Montreal HQ. Would either of those events interfere with the General Strike? Quote The government should do something.
olp1fan Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 Great, I am glad you are in favour of abolishing the Air Canada Act. Of course, that would mean major layoffs at Air Canada for rank and file workers, and the almost certain relocation and downsizing of their bloated Montreal HQ. Would either of those events interfere with the General Strike? everyone seems to be getting laid off so I suppose yes, they will join the public sector employees and private in a general strike i love chaos Quote
Wilber Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Great, I am glad you are in favour of abolishing the Air Canada Act. Of course, that would mean major layoffs at Air Canada for rank and file workers, and the almost certain relocation and downsizing of their bloated Montreal HQ. Would either of those events interfere with the General Strike? Thats the problem. Government maintains out of one side of its mouth that Air Canada is a private corporation, while out of its other side, saddles the company with obligations not required of any of its competitors, that have nothing to do with running a profitable airline and is now legislating against its employees right to strike, Something it has never done to an employee group of any other Canadian airline. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
fellowtraveller Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Thats the problem. Government maintains out of one side of its mouth that Air Canada is a private corporation, while out of its other side, saddles the company with obligations not required of any of its competitors, that have nothing to do with running a profitable airline and is now legislating against its employees right to strike, Something it has never done to an employee group of any other Canadian airline. Of course, if the government were to abolish the Air Canada Act the impact would be greatest by far on jobs in Quebec. Bilingual jobs across Canada would also be gone, Why do you hate the French? Quote The government should do something.
jacee Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Showdown day! It drafted back-to-work legislation for two previous labor disputes at the airline, but would find it hard to pass such legislation quickly on this occasion, given that Parliament is not sitting this week Labor relations experts were puzzled by the government's decision to refer theLabor relations experts were puzzled by the government's decision to refer the dispute to the CIRB, an independent, quasi-judicial tribunal that is responsible for administering and interpreting parts of the Labor Code, the Labor Code,"This is news to all of us. The CIRB has never been used to suspend a strike," said George Smith, a research fellow in the school of policy studies at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario. He said the board is usually asked to rule instance, the union is clearly in a legal position to strike. http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE79905B20111012 Edited October 12, 2011 by jacee Quote
Wilber Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Of course, if the government were to abolish the Air Canada Act the impact would be greatest by far on jobs in Quebec. Bilingual jobs across Canada would also be gone, Why do you hate the French? If the government wants Air Canada to be extension of government policy and the Official Languages Act, it should pony up and pay for it. Not expect Air Canada bear the burden while at the same time demand that it be profitable while in direct competition with companies that have no such responsibilities. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Bob Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 i love chaos As if we didn't already know, but this is typical of the leftist. Just reflexively oppose all "bad" things - money, the creation of wealth, employment, personal responsibility, and freedom. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Boges Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 As if we didn't already know, but this is typical of the leftist. Just reflexively oppose all "bad" things - money, the creation of wealth, employment, personal responsibility, and freedom. Bob's going after the leftist Newb. (grabs popcorn) Quote
olp1fan Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Posted October 12, 2011 As if we didn't already know, but this is typical of the leftist. Just reflexively oppose all "bad" things - money, the creation of wealth, employment, personal responsibility, and freedom. yeah, work all your life for a corporation only to screw with your pension when you need it most, thus going bankrupt yourself not being able to pay for your health bills...that is why the occupy wall street movement started hard working people getting thrown under the bus by you How the hell do you sleep at night Quote
capricorn Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Bob's going after the leftist Newb. (grabs popcorn) ROFL Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Bob Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Bob's going after the leftist Newb. (grabs popcorn) I'm glad that I can offer some entertainment value to the forum. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Handsome Rob Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 yeah, work all your life for a corporation only to screw with your pension when you need it most, thus going bankrupt yourself not being able to pay for your health bills...that is why the occupy wall street movement started hard working people getting thrown under the bus by you How the hell do you sleep at night Are you old enough to have made a pension contribution? (I assume you're not referring to CPP) Doesn't seem like it. Quote
olp1fan Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Posted October 12, 2011 Are you old enough to have made a pension contribution? (I assume you're not referring to CPP) Doesn't seem like it. my dad does, they f'd with it Quote
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