Perry in 2012?

[bush_cheney2004]

...With every election it becomes more and more clear that it doesn't matter as much as we think if it's a Republican or Democrat in the White House...

You're right...it doesn't matter whether it's a Republican or Democrat...they're both American, and you are in Canada!

[Sir Bandelot]

Rick Perry holds the record on executions

"In his nearly 11 years as the state’s chief executive, Perry, now running for the Republican presidential nomination, has overseen more executions than any governor in modern history: 234 and counting. That’s more than the combined total in the next two states — Oklahoma and Virginia — since the death penalty was restored 35 years ago."

The duck of death.

[Guest Derek L]

Rick Perry holds the record on executions

"In his nearly 11 years as the state’s chief executive, Perry, now running for the Republican presidential nomination, has overseen more executions than any governor in modern history: 234 and counting. That’s more than the combined total in the next two states — Oklahoma and Virginia — since the death penalty was restored 35 years ago."

The duck of death.

Fail to see the problem or your point.....

[Sir Bandelot]

Fail to see the problem or your point.....

Not a problem for the nation that kills the most prisoners of any "free" country in the world.

1 People's Republic of China Officially not released. In the thousands

2 Iran 252+

3 North Korea 60+

4 Yemen 53+

5 United States 46

6 Saudi Arabia 27+

7 Libya 18+

8 Syria 17+

9 Bangladesh 9+

10 Somalia 8+

11 Sudan 6+

12 Palestinian Authority 5

13 Egypt 4

14 Equatorial Guinea 4

15 Taiwan 4

16 Belarus 2

17 Japan 2

18 Iraq 1+

19 Malaysia 1+

20 Bahrain 1

Surprised that the US is satisfied with being fifth. But look what good company they're in, competition is high...

If elected, Perry would do his best to uphold the states right to execute people, as an ineffective form of punishment.

[GostHacked]

Did anyone see the pics of Perry assaulting Ron Paul during a commercial break on the last GOP debate?

http://www.google.ca/search?q=perry+assaults+paul&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1189&bih=653

Perry is a dangerous man.

http://news.yahoo.com/did-rick-perry-assault-ron-paul-gop-debate-103500050.html

The image: During a commercial break in Wednesday's Republican presidential debate, a photographer captured a seemingly tense exchange between the party's presidential frontrunner, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, and Rep. Ron Paul, also a Texan. (See photo below). Perry walked over to Paul's podium, grabbed the libertarian congressman's forearm with one hand, and pointed in his face with the other. The confrontation came shortly after Paul skewered Perry for writing a letter in the '90s praising then-first lady Hillary Clinton for her health-care reform efforts. Perry subsequently asked Paul to explain a 1987 letter the libertarian wrote to then-President Ronald Reagan saying he was leaving the Republican Party. Paul supporters accused Perry of "assaulting" their candidate during the unintended photo op, but the Perry camp said the pair merely discussed border security in a "very cordial" fashion. For his part, Paul insists that the two did not exchange any "cross words."

[Sir Bandelot]

The article then goes on to describe that Perry attempted to pass a bill that would enforce mandatory HPV vaccination for girls age 12. What a fine conservative.

[Argus]

Unless the Republicans really destroy each other, there's not much chance of an Obama repeat.

Well, putting Perry in as their candidate will certainly give the Democrats a ton of ammunition to use, starting with his attacks on pensions, his desire to lower wages for all Texans, and presumably, all Americans in order to make business more profitable, his eagerness to welcome and exploit illegal immigrants because it keeps wages low, his apparent willingness to do whatever anyone with a few bucks wants him to do...

[Argus]

The article then goes on to describe that Perry attempted to pass a bill that would enforce mandatory HPV vaccination for girls age 12. What a fine conservative.

I think that bill cost the HPV vaccine manufacturer about $30,000 in donations.

[Shady]

I think that bill cost the HPV vaccine manufacturer about $30,000 in donations.

Actually it was $5000, and the bill had an opt out for any parent that didn't want to have their daughter vaccinated. But why let facts get in the way of a good ol'hate fest!

Perry has many flaws, but he's still better than the utter failure currently in the White House.

[guyser]

The article then goes on to describe that Perry attempted to pass a bill that would enforce mandatory HPV vaccination for girls age 12. What a fine conservative.

The original bill has an opt out clause for parents

[guyser]

Perry has many flaws, but he's still better than the utter failure currently in the White House.

Sure, he could pray for better economic situations, that'll work

And and ignore science too !

Woo hoo

Go rick perry! (he hasnt a hope in hell, neither does Romney since he is a mormon, but he is better

[BubberMiley]

Actually it was $5000, and the bill had an opt out for any parent that didn't want to have their daughter vaccinated. But why let facts get in the way of a good ol'hate fest!

I'm shocked at how quickly you've turned on poor old Sarah Palin. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/13/palin-hits-perry-on-state-mandated-vaccine/?iref=allsearch

I guess her hate fest will chug on dispite your disapproval.

[Sir Bandelot]

The original bill has an opt out clause for parents

I didn't read the bill but I am aware of claims it had an opt-out clause. I don't know the details.

An opt-in clause would have been acceptable.

[Sir Bandelot]

Actually it was $5000

upon further investigation it was found to be $28,000, plus job offers.

Perry has many flaws, but he's still better than the utter failure currently in the White House.

So, best of the worst, again?

Edited September 14, 2011 by Sir Bandelot

[GostHacked]

Actually it was $5000, and the bill had an opt out for any parent that didn't want to have their daughter vaccinated. But why let facts get in the way of a good ol'hate fest!

Perry has many flaws, but he's still better than the utter failure currently in the White House.

You can opt out. But you might not be allowed back in school. That is also a problem here in Canada, a friend's son would be barred from school if they don't get this second round of vaccinations (apparently needed because the old vaccine is not 100% effective).

I agree with Sir Bandelot that it should be an opt-IN.

[Guest American Woman]

The last time the U.S. required vaccination without exception--a true mandate--was during World War I. Today, all states except Mississippi and West Virginia have procedures which allow parents to exempt their children from state vaccination requirements on the basis of religious and/or personal beliefs. link

[Sir Bandelot]

Merck has given $28,500 to Perry's gubernatorial campaigns since January 2001, according to a new report by Texans for Public Justice, a political watchdog group, which uses data from the Center for Responsive Politics.

And since January 2006, Merck has given an additional $377,500 to the Republican Governors Association, which, in turn, was one of the largest backers of Perry's own campaigns. Notably, Perry also served as the chairman of the governors association from 2007 until last month, when Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell succeeded him, so that Perry could pursue his presidential run.

Perhaps more importantly, Perry's friend, former chief of staff Mike Toomey, spun through the revolving door to become a lobbyist for Merck in Texas, a position he held at the time of the HPV-related executive order.

Link

Perry says he can't be bought for a mere $5,000. Someone should have asked, what his price is...

[jbg]

I'm shocked at how quickly you've turned on poor old Sarah Palin. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/13/palin-hits-perry-on-state-mandated-vaccine/?iref=allsearch

I guess her hate fest will chug on dispite your disapproval.

I'll be honest and admit I rather liked Sarah Palin for a while. Then, just too much baggage.

[Argus]

Actually it was $5000, and the bill had an opt out for any parent that didn't want to have their daughter vaccinated. But why let facts get in the way of a good ol'hate fest!

Perry has many flaws, but he's still better than the utter failure currently in the White House.

In what way? You think his "pray to Jesus to save the economy" will work better than what Obama's doing?

[Guest American Woman]

I'll be honest and admit I rather liked Sarah Palin for a while.

OMG. That's all. Just - OMG.

[maple_leafs182]

Actually it was $5000, and the bill had an opt out for any parent that didn't want to have their daughter vaccinated. But why let facts get in the way of a good ol'hate fest!

Perry has many flaws, but he's still better than the utter failure currently in the White House.

According to ABC it was $29,500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SGe5rxRqaM

As for Perry, many of his talking points he stole from Ron Paul.

Edited September 16, 2011 by maple_leafs182

[Yukon Jack]

Tough to say. Im just saying that what you describe is aboslutely NOT a compromise. Its a total victory for one side, and a total defeat for the other.

Beyond that... I dont know. I know that the members of schoolboards who tried to ram this kind of horseshit through were ceremoniously turfed out of office on their asses even in fairly conservative places.

But that doesnt mean hes totally unelectable. But he would probably be pretty wise to distance himself from that position, because the people who would support it are definately going to vote for him ANYWAYS and if he starts his campaign promising to teach creationism in US schools hes definately going to alienate everyone besides a few ultra religious social conservatives. Even most Christians would be concerned.

Remember... hes pretty much guaranteed to get the votes of every single person that voted for McCain last time. WHat he has to do to WIN is get some Obama voters to swing, or stay away from the polls completely.

When one side tries to silence the other side it only reveals the total lack of confidence in the strength of its position.

If "Intelligent Design" is so ridiculous, the promoters of Evolution ONLY, should be comfortable enough knowing/guessing that the other side is so untenable that it would be laughed out of any and all classrooms.

So, why are they panicking?

BTW, dre, take some remedial classes on spelling.

[Yukon Jack]

I'm denying it and pretty much anybody who knows was socialism is would deny it too.

I'm not sure who you think you're going to convince on here by overstating your case.

I don't give a care about whom I am going to convince about what I said about 0bama. Some minds, perhaps yours included, are like concrete: All mixed up and permanently set.

I am more inclined to ask the question regarding Jimmy II (aka Hussain 0bama): Are you better off than you were four years ago?

[Yukon Jack]

The only English speaking nation that uses Webster's spellings is the US. The rest of the English speaking world use the "u" in words like "fourth", neighbour", "labour", "honour" and so on.

/quote]

Was there any doubt about the difference between 'forth' and 'fourth'? Not even in the mind of the most staunch Canadian who thinks that the extra and totally unnecessary 'u' in the words above is necessary.

I am a pragmatic person. When somebody can show me the advantage, profit, correctness and lack of pettiness just to show them damn Americans that we are superior, I go with the American spelling. The fact that I used the extra and totally unnecessary 'u' in words I posted was just an attempt to avoid being called a stupid Yankee-lover.

[Sir Bandelot]

The only English speaking nation that uses Webster's spellings is the US. The rest of the English speaking world use the "u" in words like "fourth", neighbour", "labour", "honour" and so on.

/quote]

Was there any doubt about the difference between 'forth' and 'fourth'? Not even in the mind of the most staunch Canadian who thinks that the extra and totally unnecessary 'u' in the words above is necessary.

I am a pragmatic person. When somebody can show me the advantage, profit, correctness and lack of pettiness just to show them damn Americans that we are superior, I go with the American spelling. The fact that I used the extra and totally unnecessary 'u' in words I posted was just an attempt to avoid being called a stupid Yankee-lover.

"The fourth went forth", is very different in meaning from "the forth went forth". The latter is confusing and could also mean "the fourth went fourth"...