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ALL nations were ruled in that fashion, whether by European rulers or their own local dictators. What, you think the native rulers in Africa, Asia, the middle east or South America were benevolent democrats who took votes or something?

Canada from what I see is not a classic democracy that is vote dependant on what takes place. What takes place in Canada is the best parts of human nature - where people from all over the world know and see a great opportunity - where good will and good faith between people is what keep us going. Those that come and bring problems are soon alienated or gradually brought into submission not through voilence or political coercion but by good common sense.

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I didn't say Canada wasn't a dominion.

Then we're the dominion of Canada, even if not the Dominion of Canada.

So celebrating the day we became a dominion would seem to be a reasonable thing to do, and calling it Dominion Day a reasonable title.

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Except that the name of the country is Canada and the holiday is Canada Day, not Dominion Day. We've been progressively moving away from our colonial roots for a little less than a century. Dominion was nothing more than an alternative to Colony, used to describe this country. Once the Constitution was repatriated, we all but stopped becoming a Dominion, as our laws derive their validity from the Queen symbolically, but in practice from the Constitution. Again, you're playing with semantics. We are a dominion, only insofar as we're a British colony. Seeing as we're no longer eligible for British citizenship, nor status as British subjects, we're only a dominion in the narrow sense of the word.

http://archives.cbc.ca/society/celebrations/clips/15434/

In any case, it's not "more appropriately called Dominion Day". It was changed and is called Canada Day. Period.

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Actually, we're the kingdom of Canada. Domion went away when we gained full independence from the UK.

Dominion has been dropped in some form or another over the last 100 years, but more importantly we are absolutely not a kingdom:

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/dominion.htm

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Dominion has been dropped in some form or another over the last 100 years, but more importantly we are absolutely not a kingdom:

We absolutely are a kingdom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom

We are no longer part of the British Empire, and so we aren't a dominion.

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We absolutely are a kingdom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom

We are no longer part of the British Empire, and so we aren't a dominion.

The Colonial Office in London rejected the Governor General's request to call Canada a kingdom during our confederacy. We have never been considered a kingdom by the Crown. We've always been a dominion and even that was only allowed because it was generic enough not to inflame tensions between Britain and the United States.

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The Colonial Office in London rejected the Governor General's request to call Canada a kingdom during our confederacy. We have never been considered a kingdom by the Crown. We've always been a dominion and even that was only allowed because it was generic enough not to inflame tensions between Britain and the United States.

That was 144 years ago, Cybercoma, long before we became a fully independent monarchy (aka 'kingdom'). Time and history didn't freeze in 1867. That was a beginning, not an end.

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That was 144 years ago, Cybercoma, long before we became a fully independent monarchy (aka 'kingdom').

That's right. In 1982, we finished our long journey to becoming a kingdom in our own right, completely separate from the UK. In 1867, we were a Dominion. Today we're a kingdom (or a queendom, if you prefer).

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Well, it's like, you have this nice, neat, tidy little home on the street, and right next door is this huge family of slovenly, brawling oafs who are always screaming and howling and fighting, shooting off guns. Half of them are addicted to porn and pain killers, and the other half are religious wackos screaming their praise to Jesus at all hours of the day and night. And they're all so fat that when they walk by the house shakes. That family is simply bound to often come up in the conversation pretty frequently...

Bravo! :lol:

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No, not "bravo." Implied is some sort of innate Canadian superiority, which makes the whole thing a bit stinky, in my view.

Just to pluck one point: are we not the 2nd or 3rd fattest nation on Earth? (I dunno, but it's what I heard.) If so, at what point does a bunch of fatties mocking someone else as "fat" approach the meaningful? Never, more or less?

:)

This point extrapolates generally to all the others.

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I'm not making a "love it or leave it" declaration, but an honest suggestion: what's stopping you? The Promised Land is a day's journey away, tops.

It's not that easy to immigrate to the US. You can't just drive down there and instantly become a permanent resident.

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Dominion was nothing more than an alternative to Colony, used to describe this country.

Where did you learn your Canadian history? "Dominion" was chosen as an alternative to John A. Macdonald's preference of "kingdom", not "colony"; "dominion" still had a monarchical flair, but wasn't as literally royal and ostentatious (as some at the time thought) as "kingdom", which some overly sensitive types thought would anger the rowdy republicans to the south.

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Not only was it rejected by Colonial Office, but parliament is the ultimate authority in Canada. The Queen doesn't even select the Governor General any more.

I'm not sure what you're going on about. We aren't beholden to the colonial office anymore, first of all, and second, all power is exercised through the Crown. Parliament, yes, is the one that uses the power now (along with the government), but the sovereign is the source of the power that they use. We're definitely a kingdom. We have a monarchy (the king/queen variety), we're a totally independent country, we're a kingdom.

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Where did you learn your Canadian history? "Dominion" was chosen as an alternative to John A. Macdonald's preference of "kingdom",

The words though, do have a slightly different connotation, I think you'd agree. a dominion seems to be less independent than a kingdom. We were a dominion, and now, we're a kingdom.

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If the Queen ever exercised authority in Canada, you would see quickly that we are absolutely not a kingdom. The ensuing constitutional crisis would ensue would lead to the Queen being told where to go, demonstrating once and for all the supremacy of the elected Parliament. The Governor General, who is appointed by the leader of the party that has the most seats in Parliament (not the Queen), is nothing more than a symbolic formality. If you want to consider Canada a kingdom, then it's a kingdom in the remotest sense imaginable. It's a kingdom with an impotent monarch.

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