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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/us-syria-usa-idUSTRE79N22G20111024

and the plot thickens as turkey and iran pincer the kurds.... those israeli backed kurds,,, in northern iraq as the us is set to withdrawal their remaini 40000 or so troops.... wonder if they will take a land air or sea route?

Ford left Syria following a series of violent incidents that damaged the U.S. Embassy compound and his motorcade but did not cause any casualties

http://www.isria.com/pages/24_October_2011_326.php

Edited by William Ashley

I was here.

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Do a google search (or another search engine if you don't want censored or logged searches as the Conservatives want to impose through their new logging laws for companies like Google and your ISP) (good for catching a leak I guess..)

Heh really

DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!

  • 4 weeks later...
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Earlier on Friday, a deadline set by the Arab League for Syria to sign a deal allowing peace monitors into the country expired without any government response. Turkey meanwhile said it could no longer tolerate any more bloodshed.

Sounds like Turkey is pulling the car over.

I was here.

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Sounds like Turkey is pulling the car over.

two people a girl and her father were shot in labanon near the border today.. seige of a town gunfire heard from the other side.

Un today state dthat action must be taken to preserve human life. Turkey wants to set up its own zone by occupying part of Syria, China and Russia say that parties wish to destabalize and escalate the conflict are smuggling arms into the country - and that NATO abused the Libya measure so they will not support an intervention in Syria.

Edited by William Ashley

I was here.

  • 2 weeks later...
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There were posts earlier about how Suncor was exempt from the fed's sanctions against Syria. Today we see that the point is moot:

http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/calgary-based_suncor_to_withdraw_from_syria/848967e7

"Canadian energy giant Suncor Energy Inc. says it plans to suspend operations in Syria as a result of sanctions enacted against the embattled country earlier this month."

"Suncor Energy had said in November that the company would stay in Syria until the situation in the country reached a point where it was no longer safe to operate. "

"Earlier this month, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Suncor had no plans to leave Syria. He argued that the Calgary-based company provided a much-needed service to the country.

"If they ceased activities there, you'd have literally thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of homes without electricity, and that would be bad for the civilian population," he told a House of Commons committee on December 2."

Something big must be about to happen to spook Suncor this way.

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

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Something big must be about to happen to spook Suncor this way.

This is a picture of a Pink Marshmallow named Kirby who is playing the role of John Baird .. the guy he is sucking in is Assad

My link

This is what is about to happen

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There were posts earlier about how Suncor was exempt from the fed's sanctions against Syria. Today we see that the point is moot:

http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/calgary-based_suncor_to_withdraw_from_syria/848967e7

"Canadian energy giant Suncor Energy Inc. says it plans to suspend operations in Syria as a result of sanctions enacted against the embattled country earlier this month."

"Suncor Energy had said in November that the company would stay in Syria until the situation in the country reached a point where it was no longer safe to operate. "

"Earlier this month, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Suncor had no plans to leave Syria. He argued that the Calgary-based company provided a much-needed service to the country.

"If they ceased activities there, you'd have literally thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of homes without electricity, and that would be bad for the civilian population," he told a House of Commons committee on December 2."

Something big must be about to happen to spook Suncor this way.

Indeed, and as I debated months back with M. Dancer, we were not in Syria, for the simple reason our interests weren’t being directly, or indirectly threatened……….Today’s news seems to suggest the Syrian Army is coming undone:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-12/defectors2c-businesses-ramp-up-syria-resistance/3724982/?site=sydney

I will still suggest, we (as in the West), won’t involve ourselves for the same reasons I argued months ago……Let the Syrians sort themselves out, well we remain neutral, and once the dust settles back to our regularly scheduled program.

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I will still suggest, we (as in the West), won’t involve ourselves for the same reasons I argued months ago……Let the Syrians sort themselves out, well we remain neutral, and once the dust settles back to our regularly scheduled program.

we won't intervene in Syria but not because of reasons you suggest, right now Russia is in the beginning stages of a Russian winter meaning Russia is finally vocalizing their disgust of their government ..the Russian people have been supportive of Syria for years and paranoid of NATO for many more years... you do not want to give the Russian people a chance to back this government because Putin will see this as an opportunity to get his support back if NATO invades Syria

it would be utterly stupid

Guest Derek L
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we won't intervene in Syria but not because of reasons you suggest, right now Russia is in the beginning stages of a Russian winter meaning Russia is finally vocalizing their disgust of their government ..the Russian people have been supportive of Syria for years and paranoid of NATO for many more years... you do not want to give the Russian people a chance to back this government because Putin will see this as an opportunity to get his support back if NATO invades Syria

it would be utterly stupid

The Russian Government has been “supportive of Syria and paranoid of NATO for years”………The Russian people want IPods, McDonalds, Nike Runners and cheap gas to put in their Ladas……..

The Russian Government also supported Libya and Iraq…….but never intervened.

Posted (edited)

The Russian Government has been “supportive of Syria and paranoid of NATO for years”………The Russian people want IPods, McDonalds, Nike Runners and cheap gas to put in their Ladas……..

The Russian Government also supported Libya and Iraq…….but never intervened.

Actually the Russian people support Syrian people and its unclear who is for the revolution and who is not ..and they hate NATO

I don't know where you get your information from Derek but the whole world doesn't love us dude

What does ipods and Nike have to do with NATO? most of that is made in Asian sweatshops btw

as for Russia supporting the Libya mission ...

http://rt.com/news/libya-intervention-russian-reaction/

The Russian Foreign Ministry is urging the international forces and the Gaddafi regime to do everything they can to stop civilian suffering, and agree an immediate ceasefire, describing the military action in Libya as regrettable.

­Russian officials have steadily been against any foreign intervention into Libya’s domestic affairs, saying the West should let such turmoil-gripped countries choose their own way of development.

Russia urges the coalition forces to stop the attack on civilians, Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich said in a statement on Sunday.

“We insist that the [parties involved in the operation] stop the indiscriminate use of force,” Lukashevich said.

As for what Russia said about Iraq

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/russ-m29.shtml

Only hours after the first American missiles landed on Iraqi territory, Russian President Vladimir Putin made a public declaration, condemning the onset of the US invasion as a “great political error.”

Derek, here's some advice, don't believe all of the pro western bias you hear especially when its about the eastern part of the world

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Guest Derek L
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Actually the Russian people support Syrian people and its unclear who is for the revolution and who is not ..and they hate NATO

I don't know where you get your information from Derek but the whole world doesn't love us dude

What does ipods and Nike have to do with NATO? most of that is made in Asian sweatshops btw

as for Russia supporting the Libya mission ...

http://rt.com/news/libya-intervention-russian-reaction/

The Russian Foreign Ministry is urging the international forces and the Gaddafi regime to do everything they can to stop civilian suffering, and agree an immediate ceasefire, describing the military action in Libya as regrettable.

­Russian officials have steadily been against any foreign intervention into Libya’s domestic affairs, saying the West should let such turmoil-gripped countries choose their own way of development.

Russia urges the coalition forces to stop the attack on civilians, Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich said in a statement on Sunday.

“We insist that the [parties involved in the operation] stop the indiscriminate use of force,” Lukashevich said.

As for what Russia said about Iraq

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/russ-m29.shtml

Only hours after the first American missiles landed on Iraqi territory, Russian President Vladimir Putin made a public declaration, condemning the onset of the US invasion as a “great political error.”

Derek, here's some advice, don't believe all of the pro western bias you hear especially when its about the eastern part of the world

So you’re getting your information from RT? I personally preferred TASS and Pravda for my Russian current events......... :lol:

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So you’re getting your information from RT? I personally preferred TASS and Pravda for my Russian current events......... :lol:

theres dozens of articles saying the same thing all you have to do is google it

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2011/March/20%20n/Reactions%20to%20US-Led%20Attacks%20on%20Libya%20from%20Qadhafi,%20African%20Union,%20China,%20Russia,%20March%2020,%202011.htm

Russia regrets military actions against Libya

MOSCOW, March 19, 2011 (Xinhua) --

Russia regretted the military intervention led by foreign countries in Libya, the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in a Saturday statement.

Lukashevich also said the military actions against Libya was based on a "hastily passed" UN Security Council resolution.

"In Moscow, we regret this armed action within the hastily passed UNSCR Resolution 1973," the statement said.

The Resolution 1973 authorizes the use of force and the creation of a no-fly zone in Libya, where rebels and the government have been clashing for several weeks.

The statement also called for a cease-fire in the north African country as soon as possible.

Editor: Mu Xuequan

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and here is your pravda

http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/13-05-2011/117907-Russia_refuses_to_cooperate_on_Syria-0/

The Russian Foreign Minister expressed his concern "about the fact that the reconciliation process, the dialogue process is being hampered."

The Syrian opposition "wants to stop the process of dialogue in order to appeal to foreign forces that support their actions," Lavrov stressed.

According to Lavrov, the western operation against the government of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi can stimulate and encourage opponents in other countries where rioters or terrorists formenting social unrest request foreign military intervention.

The Russian executive, who has expressed his rejection of the recent military intervention led by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) against Libya, refuses to cooperate with the West in an attempt to pressure the Syrian government.

Guest Derek L
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theres dozens of articles saying the same thing all you have to do is google it

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2011/March/20%20n/Reactions%20to%20US-Led%20Attacks%20on%20Libya%20from%20Qadhafi,%20African%20Union,%20China,%20Russia,%20March%2020,%202011.htm

Russia regrets military actions against Libya

MOSCOW, March 19, 2011 (Xinhua) --

Russia regretted the military intervention led by foreign countries in Libya, the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in a Saturday statement.

Lukashevich also said the military actions against Libya was based on a "hastily passed" UN Security Council resolution.

"In Moscow, we regret this armed action within the hastily passed UNSCR Resolution 1973," the statement said.

The Resolution 1973 authorizes the use of force and the creation of a no-fly zone in Libya, where rebels and the government have been clashing for several weeks.

The statement also called for a cease-fire in the north African country as soon as possible.

Editor: Mu Xuequan

You don’t find the disconnect between what is stated by the Russian Government in terms of policy and conveyed by state controlled media, and contrast this with the protests undertaken by the Russian people against said government?

Guest Derek L
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Russians don't trust NATO..they have no reason to considering the past 60 years.. they are just pissed off at their government

Oh, ok.

Posted

The fact that you believed Russia condoned Libya or Iraq proves you don't know jack shiat about any of this

Why don't you do some research and then come back and maybe I'll let you amuse me some more

Guest Derek L
Posted (edited)

The fact that you believed Russia condoned Libya or Iraq proves you don't know jack shiat about any of this

Why don't you do some research and then come back and maybe I'll let you amuse me some more

Why do I need to conduct further research? I thought you just outlined the World’s geopolitical situation, coupled with Russian foreign and domestic policy…….Am I not to take your enlightened posts at face value? Do you suspect your own comments, research and opinions are flawed? :huh:

Edited by Derek L
Posted (edited)

Why do I need to conduct further research? I thought you just outlined the World’s geopolitical situation, coupled with Russian foreign and domestic policy…….Am I not to take your enlightened posts at face valve? Do you suspect your own comments, research and opinions are flawed? :huh:

Well given that you believe you're always right I had to correct you with evidence from your own sources

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Guest Derek L
Posted

Well given that you believe you're always right I had to correct you with evidence from your own sources

You sure did, and I thank-you for that and am forever in your debt. :D

Posted (edited)

You sure did, and I thank-you for that and am forever in your debt. :D

and for further information a good chunk of my family are immigrants from Russia and I still have relatives in Russia, I'm more clued into Russia than you'd think

I'm half Russian half French ..kind of weird combo

Edited by olp1fan
Guest Derek L
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and for further information a good chunk of my family are immigrants from Russia and I still have relatives in Russia, I'm more clued into Russia than you'd think

That’s blatantly obvious……..perhaps you should write a book. ;)

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