scouterjim Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 Ya gotta love those religious nutters. Always hoping for the end. I wonder what they will say May 22? Wait...what if they are right? OH NO!! http://ca.news.yahoo.com/may-21-judgement-day-christian-group-091705156.html Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
bloodyminded Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) I'm ready, just in case. I've apologized to Lucifer (for being the wonderful guy that I am) and pledged my allegiance. Edited May 11, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
scouterjim Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Posted May 11, 2011 I'm ready, just in case. I've apologized to Lucifer (for being the wonderful guy that I am) and pledged my allegiance. So, does this negate the December 21, 2012 Mayan bit? Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
bloodyminded Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 So, does this negate the December 21, 2012 Mayan bit? Definitely. First past the post and all that. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
WIP Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 Every time I have Jehovah's Witnesses show up at my door (haven't seen them for awhile for some reason) I like to point out the scriptures where Jesus tells his disciples that he will return before the last of them have died off. These endtime prophecies keep getting re-interpreted with each generation for the last 2000 years. Mainstream Christianity decided some time in the 2nd century that Jesus wasn't coming back any time soon, and they would have to create permanent institutions and re-interpret most of the prophecies on a personal basis of salvation for the individual believer. But, there is always someone coming along telling us the end is nigh. What's especially troubling is that in our present age, we are fast heading towards something that looks like a secular apocalypse, that is already causing mass extinction, and could include our descendents in a few more generations. The problem is that the true believers in bible prophecy make these situations worse, rather than better, since they have a fatalistic attitude about the conditions our Earth is in. Instead of doing something to improve our present situation, they would just as rather make them worse, so that they could look forward to the Rapture coming a little sooner! Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
scouterjim Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Posted May 11, 2011 Every time I have Jehovah's Witnesses show up at my door (haven't seen them for awhile for some reason) I like to point out the scriptures where Jesus tells his disciples that he will return before the last of them have died off. These endtime prophecies keep getting re-interpreted with each generation for the last 2000 years. Mainstream Christianity decided some time in the 2nd century that Jesus wasn't coming back any time soon, and they would have to create permanent institutions and re-interpret most of the prophecies on a personal basis of salvation for the individual believer. But, there is always someone coming along telling us the end is nigh. What's especially troubling is that in our present age, we are fast heading towards something that looks like a secular apocalypse, that is already causing mass extinction, and could include our descendents in a few more generations. The problem is that the true believers in bible prophecy make these situations worse, rather than better, since they have a fatalistic attitude about the conditions our Earth is in. Instead of doing something to improve our present situation, they would just as rather make them worse, so that they could look forward to the Rapture coming a little sooner! The Rapture was created by a 19th Century clergyman. NOWHERE in the Bible is it mentioned. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Guest American Woman Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) Ya gotta love those religious nutters. Always hoping for the end. Family Radio is hardly the first group to predict the end. Movies, literature and television have told tales of a coming apocalypse, in many forms. Gotta love movies, literature, and television, too. Edited May 11, 2011 by American Woman Quote
GostHacked Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 So, does this negate the December 21, 2012 Mayan bit? http://randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/truth-about-2012-mayan-calander.gif Quote
scouterjim Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Posted May 11, 2011 Family Radio is hardly the first group to predict the end. Movies, literature and television have told tales of a coming apocalypse, in many forms. Gotta love movies, literature, and television, too. Oh, I am aware of that. It is just funnier when it comes from religious types. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Shady Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Oh, I am aware of that. It is just funnier when it comes from religious types. How so? Quote
Shady Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 The Rapture was created by a 19th Century clergyman. NOWHERE in the Bible is it mentioned. Complete nonsense. Quote
BubberMiley Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Complete nonsense. Yes. 1 Thesselonians 4:17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I agree about it being complete nonsense. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Yes. 1 Thesselonians 4:17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I agree about it being complete nonsense. I'm glad we can agree. Quote
Jack Weber Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 The Rapture was created by a 19th Century clergyman. NOWHERE in the Bible is it mentioned. Incidentaly,I'm holding my Gideon's Bible in my hand right now and nowhere in this book does it contain the word "Bible"....Other than the cover.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Escathologically speaking,anyone saying the Judgment Day is coming in two weeks should really get there nose into a Holy Bible and get the facts straight... I wonder if these prophetic whiz kids could tell anyone when peace pact in Israel has taken place,because I have'nt heared of that one yet? Peter Romano as the last Pope??Nope...Still got Benny!!! Man...That 7 year Tribulation Period was a breeze!!! And I guess they just called off all that global military catastrophe that the Book of Revelation talks about??? This is a crackpot doomsday cult like the Branch Davidians... Kooks!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
dre Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Escathologically speaking,anyone saying the Judgment Day is coming in two weeks should really get there nose into a Holy Bible and get the facts straight... I wonder if these prophetic whiz kids could tell anyone when peace pact in Israel has taken place,because I have'nt heared of that one yet? Peter Romano as the last Pope??Nope...Still got Benny!!! Man...That 7 year Tribulation Period was a breeze!!! And I guess they just called off all that global military catastrophe that the Book of Revelation talks about??? This is a crackpot doomsday cult like the Branch Davidians... Kooks!!! Escathologically speaking,anyone saying the Judgment Day is coming in two weeks should really get there nose into a Holy Bible and get the facts straight... Shrugs... Their crazy guess is a good as yours. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Jack Weber Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Shrugs... Their crazy guess is a good as yours. Nor Friedrich Nietsche's(sp)... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
betsy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Ya gotta love those religious nutters. Always hoping for the end. I wonder what they will say May 22? Wait...what if they are right? OH NO!! http://ca.news.yahoo.com/may-21-judgement-day-christian-group-091705156.html Jesus had repeatedly warned us of false prophets, of those who'll use His name. There are numerous prophecies in the Bible that had already come true (I can't recall the approximate number). That's why it's said in the Bible that one way you'd know a fake prophet is through his failed prophecy. Edited May 12, 2011 by betsy Quote
GostHacked Posted May 12, 2011 Report Posted May 12, 2011 Jesus had repeatedly warned us of false prophets, of those who'll use His name. There are numerous prophecies in the Bible that had already come true (I can't recall the approximate number). That's why it's said in the Bible that one way you'd know a fake prophet is through his failed prophecy. I'd almost say Jesus is a false prohpet himself. He was not the first, nor the last 'prophet' or son of god. Quote
scouterjim Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Posted May 12, 2011 Jesus had repeatedly warned us of false prophets, of those who'll use His name. There are numerous prophecies in the Bible that had already come true (I can't recall the approximate number). That's why it's said in the Bible that one way you'd know a fake prophet is through his failed prophecy. I always say that Pat Robertson is one of those "false prophets". He is always predicting doom and gloom, but it never happens. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Shady Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 I always say that Pat Robertson is one of those "false prophets". He is always predicting doom and gloom, but it never happens. When has he predicted doom and gloom? I'm just wondering. Quote
betsy Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) I always say that Pat Robertson is one of those "false prophets". He is always predicting doom and gloom, but it never happens. I don't know him. Someone mentioned him here on the forum and I googled. Btw, I can't access your link. I mistook it for this news about an earthquake prediction in Italy (the same day 2 earthquakes hit Spain). It was predicted by a seismologist though, and there was no mention of religion. I guess this is not the same one you're referring to. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8508390/Spain-earthquake-Rome-earthquake-rumour-sparks-mass-exodus.html Edited May 13, 2011 by betsy Quote
cybercoma Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 betsy, don't fret. you'll always be my favourite false prophet. Quote
betsy Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) I always say that Pat Robertson is one of those "false prophets". He is always predicting doom and gloom, but it never happens. What exactly did he prophecise? I hope you're not mistaking his personal opinion for a prophesy. Stating that Haiti's being punished by God - that's an opinion, not a prophecy. He's reacting to an event that already happened. If he had said "Haiti will be struck by an earthquake as a punishment from God," that is making a prophecy, although I'm not sure if such a "prophesy" falls under the Jeanne Dixon-type of prophecy/prediction. There is a method of conducting a study on prophecies (I've read it somewhere). If I'm not mistaken the Bible's been subjected to such study. That article you gave - that guy giving an exact date on the end of the world - that is an example of a prophecy. The Bible said no one knows when the end is coming. It comes "like a thief in the night." So I don't think there'll be any warning. Is there rapture or not? Christians shouldn't split hairs on that one. If there is, there is. If not, there's not. Better to focus on the most important message(s) in the Bible. Edited May 13, 2011 by betsy Quote
WIP Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 Yes. 1 Thesselonians 4:17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I agree about it being complete nonsense. Yes, it is complete nonsense to take one verse in the Bible, and base an entire theology...not to mention a series of lousy books and movies on! The Bible contradicts itself regarding when this rapture mentioned in 1 Thessalonians would occur -- would it be before, during or after the Great Tribulation, which is referenced throughout the New Testament as the significant event of the Last Days. My point was that this one verse in Thessalonians was not given much significance before pre-millenialism started making a big comeback with the 18th century Puritans. And the teaching of 'believers being caught up in the air to be with Christ, starts with John Nelson Darby in the 1830's. Mainstream Christianity, both Catholic and Protestant, had been interpreting end-time prophecies, such as Revelation as referring to historical events of their time, such as the fall of the Roman Empire, and salvation and resurrection, not as signs that they were living in the last days. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
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