Oleg Bach Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 There was a small blurp in the media where Olivia Chow stated - to para phrase. "Jack has a lot of aches and pains..he needed a message because he is very active. The massage place he visited was a governmentally sactioned therepudic place - it was a real message parlour and not some whore house for skinny guys who hide their buck teeth behind a moustache" - Okay that was cruel. My point was Jack likes asian chicks...and Jack was caught in a brothel ....YET his wife released a statement to the media during the election that was a lie. Are Jack and his spouse so ambitous that they will lie their way to the top? All she had to say was - Yes Jack adores woman and he was a bad boy back in 96...and that's why I love the horney little high ranking socialist user of women....nope - if Olivia is a liar - then Jack is more that capable of lieing also - Take that new-bee 19 year old parlimentarian just elected...He calls himself an NDPer...Yet he blurts out BLOC seperatist rhetoric. What deal did Jack make with the BLOC? Did he say to them - just change your name and remain the same so I can be a hero? It looks like Jack is now in debt to the seperatists...and they will have even greater control over our federal institions. Jack and Olivia are so hungry for power that they were willing to sell their souls....Funny - Olivia reminds me of Hillary Clinton...a Trotskite - who loves wealth...oh well the beat goes on. So does Jack...but he may have lost some of his thrust seeing that he has a bad hip...I guess he will just have to lay back and enjoy the ride - just like back in 96.... Quote
Shady Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 The election when well for him. So it all turned out to be a happy ending. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Posted May 7, 2011 The election when well for him. So it all turned out to be a happy ending. Yah - I have no resentment for Jack ....even the smearing of his rep just made me like the guy more - to bad he ended up with the least attractive of the message attendants. Seriously....Jack will do well - to bad he is becoming frail...nothing that a good rub down and kind word won't fix.... It's kind of cool having a two party system..that in time turns into a one party system like the Americans have...maybe now Canada will become a land where one can be rewarded for hard work and intelligence - up to this point it is still a society of privledge run in a very British colonialist style...I welcome the future - besides - we are not Britian....because even England does not exist anymore...so off we go into the blue.....a place where even an ugly twit with a smooth speaking voice can become prime minister....Glad we bypassed that elect a black guy thing....why bother pandering to the weak socialist mind when we can just stamp our are opponents with a great blue dictatorship....Yah! I'm in... My younger brother asked about who to vote for and I said that our family was tough enough to run with the big dogs - so CONSERVATIVE....Is survival of the strong...let the weak step aside and let nature take it's course so we can prosper. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Posted May 8, 2011 GETTING BACK TO THE MORAL OF THE STORY...Why did Oliva Chow cover for her husband with a bare face lie - and why does the media not pounce on a truely moral issue? The media seems to have a filtering device controlled by policy makers, who ever they might be...I am not sure. Remembering years back when one of Paul Martins ships was found to have a sack of cocaine in the cargo hold...not saying that Martin is some cheeze ball dope dealer - It's just that when blurps like this come out they vanish almost instantly. Not saying that Mulroney had an arms dealing buisness on the side that functioned on a cash only basis...And not saying that politicans all lie - but is seems that too many do...and it is done with the greatest of skill - that only high end laywers are capable of pulling off - What am I saying...oh yeh...most politicals have law degrees...It will be interesting how most of Jacks's newbees are NOT lawyers - so you will see a lot of unskilled lieing going on from here on in. Quote
BC_chick Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 GETTING BACK TO THE MORAL OF THE STORY...Why did Oliva Chow cover for her husband with a bare face lie - and why does the media not pounce on a truely moral issue? Media did pounce on it, but it's only moral to some people. Clinton got a blowjob, some people saw that as a moral issue, many didn't. Same for Jack. As for Olivia - maybe because she actually believes him. I have a girlfriend whose boyfriend is a professional musician and she honestly believes he has never cheated on her while away on tour. She's happy though so who am I to judge? Same goes for Olivia. That is, of course, if we were going on the premise that Jack's lying. I'm not sure how he could've made that mistake myself but I don't really care if he went to a massage parlour or not. If Olivia doesn't care, I don't see why I should. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Tyciol Posted May 14, 2011 Report Posted May 14, 2011 I try to ignore personal issues. Far as I'm concerned, it's not his problem if his wife chooses to lie to evade inappropriate questions. I can forgive liars, I imagine he can too. I'm usually more frustrated with people who demand information someone shouldn't be obligated to give out. Regardless of how NDP is elevated in this election, I'm still not entirely sure what it's about. Liberals went to the trouble of making education funding promises so that was one issue of clarification at least. Oh wait, I think Layton wanted to ditch the senate or make them elected, I'm for that. Don't the Conservatives also share that aim though? Perhaps they can do that together? Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 17, 2011 Report Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) Jack answers questions, at very least. Opposed to Stephen Harper, who answers no unscripted questions... ...and keeps his MP's from speaking in public. Edited May 17, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
capricorn Posted May 17, 2011 Report Posted May 17, 2011 Opposed to Stephen Harper, who answers no unscripted questions... ...and keeps his MP's from speaking in public. And darn it all, this strategy seems to have paid off with a majority government. Who would have thunk? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 18, 2011 Report Posted May 18, 2011 And darn it all, this strategy seems to have paid off with a majority government. Who would have thunk? The less one says, the less there is to criticize. Harper played the game and won. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Rue Posted May 30, 2011 Report Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) If Olivia doesn't care, I don't see why I should. Yah and she also used to get beaten by him. Its not a secret to those who lived in the Coop and witnessed the screaming and yelling. Interesting. I wonder if you would give such a pat answer if you realized he used to beat the snot out of her. Here is my point. I do not judge him for being in a rub and tug parlour. I could care less. I do not judge people on their sex activities. I think though he is prize two face portraying himself as a feminist. I judge his smacking her around which was known to many of us. Yah that I cast negative judgement on. I hate violence. Its not his politics or his rub and tug-its that. I have seen nothing to convince me he ever got help. Maybe he did. Just don't ask me to trust the guy. I don't trust violent people. As for Ms. Chow, all I know is she was my alderman and a good one. I hate some of her leftist politics but she represented the elderly very well and she cared about her constituents. As for Jack his former students have referred to him as an arrogant narcissist. I tend to sympathize with them. He did win his seat and many others though. People bought into his message. Now they can see in the next 4 years what this man is about. Sadly I do not predict he will see the 4 years through. I think he's self destructive. I think Harper will easily handle him and a loose bunch of inexperienced mp's. It will be like watching a pimp manhandle some young runaways. Edited May 30, 2011 by Rue Quote
Guest American Woman Posted May 30, 2011 Report Posted May 30, 2011 "Smacking her around" is a pretty serious charge without proof. You say those who lived in the area witnessed the "screaming and yelling," but that's quite different from "beating" her. I would have to believe that if things were/are as bad as you say, those who were witnesses would have called the police. If not, why not? And if so, wouldn't the police reports have made the news? Quote
TimG Posted May 30, 2011 Report Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) "Smacking her around" is a pretty serious charge without proof. Especiallys since Olivia Chow does not strike me as a woman who would stick around in an abusive marriage. I suspect it was a failed attempt at satire. Edited May 30, 2011 by TimG Quote
bloodyminded Posted June 1, 2011 Report Posted June 1, 2011 "Smacking her around" is a pretty serious charge without proof. You say those who lived in the area witnessed the "screaming and yelling," but that's quite different from "beating" her. I would have to believe that if things were/are as bad as you say, those who were witnesses would have called the police. If not, why not? And if so, wouldn't the police reports have made the news? It's probably sheer invention. This one didn't even make the electoral rumour mill, unlike a long-ago "did or didn't he" brothel visit which became sudenly pertinent. Sounds to me like sheer invention. If it's "satire" as TimG generously speculated...well, I'm under the impression that "satire" is a word that might actually mean something. (It reminds me of how people defended Limbaugh's "retard" rant as "satire." How, exactly, is that "satire"? ) Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Guest American Woman Posted June 2, 2011 Report Posted June 2, 2011 It didn't sound like satire to me, either - any more than Limbaugh's use of "retard" did. I think TimG was giving Rue the benefit of the doubt because Rue is a credible poster - I really don't understand where he is coming from regarding these accusations/claims against Layton. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted June 2, 2011 Report Posted June 2, 2011 As for Jack his former students have referred to him as an arrogant narcissist. I tend to sympathize with them. How unusual, for leader of a federal political party. Quote
BC_chick Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 Especiallys since Olivia Chow does not strike me as a woman who would stick around in an abusive marriage. I suspect it was a failed attempt at satire. Unfortunately, there is no 'type' of woman who stays in an abusive relationship. There are many strong successful women who fall into the trap. Having said that, I don't think I'm going to believe that Jack beats Olivia just because Rue said so. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
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