Murray B. Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 To prevent crime register and confiscate from the law abiding. Sorry, but your meaning is unclear to me. Is this a reference to the gun registry or have they branched out into other areas? Since we have no constitutional right to property anything can be confiscated with the proper legislation. Cars with V-8 engines must be high on the list. Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Are you really that clueless? They weren't heckling. True, they were just sitting quietly and Chretien sent Hughey to pepper spray them. http://thetyee.cachefly.net/News/2009/10/22/bud-mercer-apec.jpg Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Sorry, but your meaning is unclear to me. Is this a reference to the gun registry or have they branched out into other areas? Into confiscation. Since we have no constitutional right to property Thanks to sleaze like Trudeau. anything can be confiscated with the proper legislation. Cars with V-8 engines must be high on the list. Yes, liberals and Greens have a plan for us. http://www.treehugger.com/Asian-cargo-bike.jpg Quote
cybercoma Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Why you need to be Prime Minister to apologize for what you did? Why it's silly? Stepen Harper didn't pepper spray anyone, yet he still apologized. Chretien is mute? He wasn't when he "pud pepper on his plade". How do you know what "everybody" knows? Why do you keep comparing the two? Chretien's actions don't excuse Stephen Harper. They were different incidents and both wrong. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Obviously if they wait for the heckler to heckle it will be too late.Too late for what? Having to deal with some uncomfortable questioning? God forbid.Hey, I just had an idea. If they wait for the criminals to commit crimes it will be too late. Quote
Murray B. Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) Too late for what? Having to deal with some uncomfortable questioning? God forbid. What are you trying to say? Is it that only the Conservatives identify potential hecklers in their private rallies and ask them to leave or are you saying that the other parties are somehow immune to heckling and don't have to worry about the problem? One thing I will agree to is that what Mr. Crietien did was far worse than what the Conservatives have done. P.S. Is is just me or is it clear that some of these "trolls" are party employees pretending to be ordinary citizens? That is much more newsworthy than anything they are posting. Edited April 8, 2011 by Murray B. Quote
BubberMiley Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 P.S. Is is just me or is it clear that some of these "trolls" are party employees pretending to be ordinary citizens? It would just be you, but I can't imagine the CPC would be paying you to say what you say. You aren't helping their cause. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Harry Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 What are you trying to say? Is it that only the Conservatives identify potential hecklers in their private rallies and ask them to leave or are you saying that the other parties are somehow immune to heckling and don't have to worry about the problem? One thing I will agree to is that what Mr. Crietien did was far worse than what the Conservatives have done. P.S. Is is just me or is it clear that some of these "trolls" are party employees pretending to be ordinary citizens? That is much more newsworthy than anything they are posting. Well we all saw those ads for right-wing writers on Craigslist. Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Why do you keep comparing the two? It's beyond comparison as you can see. Chretien's actions don't excuse Stephen Harper. So what were the "actions"? Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Well we all saw those ads for right-wing writers on Craigslist. When did we all see it? Why not post it here? Ads by whom? Quote
Harry Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 When even this guy writes about how bad it is, there is definitely a problem. A common practice taken too far http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/common+practice+taken/4572383/story.html Quote
cybercoma Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 It's beyond comparison as you can see. So what were the "actions"? It is beyond comparison. Go find the thread about Chretien choking the protestor if you want to discuss history. Quote
Murray B. Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 The problem is THERE According to Global News the student was not some undecided waif just wanting to make up her mind. "Layton said Awish Aslam, 19, a political science student, is an NDP supporter..." It looks like the people at the rally had made a good call except this girl knew exactly what actions to take to embarrass the Conservatives anyway. It was a no-win situation for them. The NDP used to be better than this. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 The girl already admitted to volunteering for the NDP in the last election. Quote
Saipan Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 The girl already admitted to volunteering for the NDP in the last election. Layton will be trailing Quote
Murray B. Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Layton will be trailing You are missing an important point. For more than fifty years there was only one party in Canada, who shall remain nameless, that would tell any lie to obtain and keep power. Now we seem to have another one. There is no way that an "NDP supporter" is going to attend rallies for other parties so she can decide how to vote. Any party "supporter" must already know how they will vote. The NDP used to be better than this. Quote
Harry Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) You guys really are a hoot. An NDP supporter with Ignatieff's pic on her facebook page. At least try and get a credible story to spin. Harper's fingers are caught in the proverbial cookie jar here, and there is no way Harper could weasel out of it, and that's why Harper apologized. It's not complicated, just plain and simple over the top Conservative strong arm tactics which backfired. Edited April 8, 2011 by Harry Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 You are missing an important point. For more than fifty years there was only one party in Canada, who shall remain nameless, that would tell any lie to obtain and keep power. Now we seem to have another one. There is no way that an "NDP supporter" is going to attend rallies for other parties so she can decide how to vote. Any party "supporter" must already know how they will vote. The NDP used to be better than this. Is "The NDP used to be better then this." your new sig line?? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
ToadBrother Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 You are missing an important point. For more than fifty years there was only one party in Canada, who shall remain nameless, that would tell any lie to obtain and keep power. Now we seem to have another one. Please tell me of this magical time and place when only one party lied to obtain and keep power. Quote
Scotty Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 If only that were true, which it very clearly isn't (Harper calls the shots as to what issue, like "coalition", the media covers) Harper would still be seen for what he is, a dictatorial control freak... Do you really think HARPER decides what the media covers??? Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
BubberMiley Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) It was a no-win situation for them. That's for sure, and they eventually conceded the game by apologizing. I'm enjoying watching you refuse to give up though. Tell me why she's a terrible person for having a party preference. Edited April 8, 2011 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
GWiz Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 Do you really think HARPER decides what the media covers??? No, the Harper funded media execs do (CBC included - Harper appointed the BoD)... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Scotty Posted April 8, 2011 Report Posted April 8, 2011 No, the Harper funded media execs do (CBC included - Harper appointed the BoD)... So Stephen Harper is paying off all the media executives? Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
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