WWWTT Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 IMHO - No. What does IMHO stand for? Are you like singing a song ex. IMHO IMHO and off to work we go? Or are you saying I'm a hore? Please clarrify Thanx WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Smallc Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 What does IMHO stand for? In my humble opinion. Quote
WWWTT Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 You'll never pull parties out of politics. Whether you call them factions, or movements, or alliances, they've been a part of Parliament for centuries. I just don't see why the taxpayer should subsidize what amounts to a ball and chain around individual MPs. If that's the way they want to behave, don't encourage giving money to them. I disagree with you. I believe you are right about the parties being around for a very long time. But the more parties you throw in the mix the more blurred or obscure the division between party lines becomes. And there is also independants,they are minor at this time but are still around.The indys have more freekin seats then the greens actually and in my opinion have more credible merit then the greens.I don't think anyone here would argue this fact. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 Except that for the last thirty years the lions share, by far, of corporate donations went to the Liberal Party. It is the elimination of corporate and high dollar donations which has put them into such a monetary bind. To be blunt, no matter what you've always assumed, the rich have long supported the Liberals, not the Tories. Funny the assumptions here. I didn't say anything about particular parties. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 They are dre, to the tune of 3 to 4 million bucks a pop. We're not talking about funding the elections, we're talking about the per-vote subsidies and tax deductions for donations to political parties. Different issues. A drop in the bucket considering what was spent on G20. Quote
Scotty Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 Funny the assumptions here. I didn't say anything about particular parties. You suggested he would reinstate corporate donations. Clearly, your assumption was this would benefit the Tories, but history shows it would benefit the Liberals. They are the party which used to get its money from corporation donations, and from those tent thousand buck a plate dinners. The Tories have always relied on a broad base of support from their membership contributing small sums. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
NSLiberal Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 I gotta hand it to Harper, when it comes to using any and every advantage to destroy his political opponents no matter how sleazy and unethical he's the best. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) I gotta hand it to Harper, when it comes to using any and every advantage to destroy his political opponents no matter how sleazy and unethical he's the best. What's really sad is that most people only buy the bumper sticker sloganeering and don't delve into the issue's... That's why Harper can say the Seperatist/Socialist coalitionand get away with it,even though the Bloc was never going to be sitting at a cabinet table in 2008... Keith Boag did a spectacular dissertation on this last week...I wonder how many people watched?? Edited April 2, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
NSLiberal Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 Probably like 4, Harper has done a masterful job of rising voter apathy to near Herculean levels. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 Probably like 4, Harper has done a masterful job of rising voter apathy to near Herculean levels. And he's got his merry band of ideologues thinking that his 2004 "Co-Opalition" (sshhhh...don't call it a coalition) was'nt anything resembling what it really was... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Wild Bill Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 I just can't help but side with Harper on this one. We pay enough taxes! Just because we voted for one of the schmucks doesn't necessarily mean we agree with giving them government welfare! I believe that parties should get their own donations, on a voluntary basis. We can quibble about donation limits and restrictions on big companies or unions but if a party is truly important to a significant number of voters then it should have no trouble getting some of them to pony up! Particularly with the BQ! If separation is so important to so many Quebecois then surely they wouldn't mind dropping a few loons or toons in the bucket! When a party DOESN"T get much money from voluntary donations I can't help but feel they are just a bunch of moochers! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
GWiz Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 And he's got his merry band of ideologues thinking that his 2004 "Co-Opalition" (sshhhh...don't call it a coalition) was'nt anything resembling what it really was... I've said it before and I'll say it again... Regardless of the outcome of this election Canadians will get exactly the government they deserve... If the Canadian public is apathetic and stupid enough to give Harper the majority he desperately wants then so be it... It won't affect me one bit one way or another... When in 2-3 years the shit hits the fan and Canada is in the throes of rampant inflation combined with a global DEPRESSION which Canada will feel even more than the US because we'll be little more than the 51st state by then because of the "Harper Doctrin" don't say you weren't warned... Enjoy your "standard of living" while you can... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
blueblood Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 I've said it before and I'll say it again... Regardless of the outcome of this election Canadians will get exactly the government they deserve... If the Canadian public is apathetic and stupid enough to give Harper the majority he desperately wants then so be it... It won't affect me one bit one way or another... When in 2-3 years the shit hits the fan and Canada is in the throes of rampant inflation combined with a global DEPRESSION which Canada will feel even more than the US because we'll be little more than the 51st state by then because of the "Harper Doctrin" don't say you weren't warned... Enjoy your "standard of living" while you can... how will canada feel a "global depression" when the bric countries are growing at 6-8%, and canada is their food, lumber, mineral, energy, and fertilizer supplier? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
cybercoma Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 You suggested he would reinstate corporate donations. Clearly, your assumption was this would benefit the Tories, but history shows it would benefit the Liberals. They are the party which used to get its money from corporation donations, and from those tent thousand buck a plate dinners. The Tories have always relied on a broad base of support from their membership contributing small sums. My point is that none of the major parties, that includes the NDP, are actually going to look out for the average voters' interests. If you cut the subsidy, grassroots movements will have a harder time getting off the ground. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted April 3, 2011 Report Posted April 3, 2011 Politics should be privatized..If you want to be a big shot - then pay your own way. Quote
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