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it has turned centuries of Christian doctrine on its head and become the spiritual justification for materialism and greed.

Let's replace it with Marxist materialism and greed.

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And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

In that case, you're the one with issues! :lol:

Why would it matter what mere humans say about you? Why would you let that bother you?

If they judge you, so what?

Haven't you heard of, "sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me?" :rolleyes:

In this world we live in, you're "judged" all the time. From what type of dwelling you live in, to the kinds of furnitures you use, to the brand of soap you lather yourself with, to the extent of caring you show towards the environment - if you use a plastic bag to do your groceries, or extent of your recycling or energy-saving! I hope you've learn to just roll your eyes to those!

Well, if you can't afford a cadillac, you can't afford a cadillac. Even if people who can afford it taunt you for being poor, you've got to learn to deal with "judgements" like that in life. Unless of course you'd rather be in debt to your eyeballs just so you can buy that cadillac.

But that doesn't mean you're rich just because you have a cadillac. Mind you, it doesn't mean that everyone who has a cadillac is rich either. For all you know they're sitting in the same boat as you are....debts to their eyeballs, just so they can say they drive a cadillac. :D

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And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

Yep. Bunch of primitive morons have to help Allah the Almighty to do his work, 'cause he's too tired.

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But that doesn't mean you're rich just because you have a cadillac. Mind you, it doesn't mean that everyone who has a cadillac is rich either. For all you know they're sitting in the same boat as you do....debts to their eyeballs, just so they can say they drive a cadillac. :D

I swear, the absolutely hilarious part of your posts is that I can't tell if your criticisms are against the non-faithful or the faithful. If the Cadillac is a metaphor for what a person does to try not to be judged by others and if God is the one that will be doing the judging in the end, well.... you piece the metaphor together.

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I swear, the absolutely hilarious part of your posts is that I can't tell if your criticisms are against the non-faithful or the faithful. If the Cadillac is a metaphor for what a person does to try not to be judged by others and if God is the one that will be doing the judging in the end, well.... you piece the metaphor together.

Betsy:

It's only God who'll be judging us in the end.

And all of His lapdogs will judge us until then.

Well, if you can't afford a cadillac, you can't afford a cadillac. Even if people who can afford it taunt you for being poor, you've got to learn to deal with "judgements" like that in life. Unless of course you'd rather be in debt to your eyeballs just so you can buy that cadillac.

But that doesn't mean you're rich just because you have a cadillac. Mind you, it doesn't mean that everyone who has a cadillac is rich either. For all you know they're sitting in the same boat as you are....debts to their eyeballs, just so they can say they drive a cadillac. :D

It is written, only God can judge (condemnation). Therefore, if we condemn you, we actually just might end up being in trouble ourselves before the eyes of God....for we should know better.

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And the Nazi Jew :)

If you're continuing to cast doubt upon the Dalai Lama's Marxism and socialism, then you believe he's a liar. And I have no horse in that race; maybe he is lying. But I doubt it.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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What do we really know of Richard Dawkins? He is a biologist. But for all his fame, I don't think he even got a nobel. Is he good at it?

Well how do we know....when all he talks about is faith, and God, and religion! And all he does it seems is chase after priests, and bishops and cardinals...even creationist, Wendy Wright! :)

Richard Dawkins is not a philosopher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAS0Gcq8Mvo

"Philosopher Dr. William Lane Craig speaks on his impression of non-philosopher Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion."

He should go back to his lab!

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Bonam say: ... More and more people in advanced countries are weakening in their beliefs.

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What a differance that just a few short years makes! I just today saw some interesting stats about this. In 2005 over 90% of Canadians professed a belief in God. In 2011 that number has fallen to something near 50%. Wow! I sure would like to know where this sudden and rapid upsurge of rationality is coming from. It's a philosophical problem that I'll be chewing on for quite some time, I expect. In any case, if nothing else, these stats should serve as a clear wake-up call to all manner of religious leaders (and to you too, betsy), for the message is clear: religion is losing its grip over the people. But even so, celebration at this point would be a bit premature; owing to the fact that those in power will doubtless be the last to go. As for the 'Religion of Reason', I'm all in favor of it. My trinity of divine cosmic super-beings includes the Logos, Lady Sophia, and the ancient Greek-goddess of art and literature, Athena. And you know what else? I'm beginning to think that maybe we can make this thing work after all. Croce always said that philosophy makes religion obsolete, and damned if he wasn't right all along! :D

"Most people are wrong. The world is stuffed with fools,

which is why we must change it." -- the sorceror Camaban (c.2000 BCE)

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What do we really know of Richard Dawkins? He is a biologist. But for all his fame, I don't think he even got a nobel. Is he good at it?

Well how do we know....when all he talks about is faith, and God, and religion! And all he does it seems is chase after priests, and bishops and cardinals...even creationist, Wendy Wright! :)

Richard Dawkins is not a philosopher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAS0Gcq8Mvo

"Philosopher Dr. William Lane Craig speaks on his impression of non-philosopher Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion."

He should go back to his lab!

What do we know of him? Who cares? The man is entitled to his opinion. Why do you people get so hot and lathered about him and his opinion?

Should he just shut the hell up?

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"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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I don't think it's complicated. I don't believe there are faeries in Ireland. With some solid proof, I'm perfectly happy to change my mind on this matter.

Yeah I am still trying to find that little guy in the green suit so I can steal his gold. No luck so far.

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A Cute Cartoon ???

;)

"The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet."

The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato

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Here is some logic for you Atheists

"The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet."

The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato

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Hard core atheists hate religion - which is fine .... but they should consider GOD..which they never do - They investigate religion and find it perverse and corrupt - then they cease to investigate - stopping the quest and proclaim that there is no GOD...fine - proclaim that religion is a fraud but don`t attack GOD because you really have not given it any thought.

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An atheist is someone with no respect for religion what so ever - a true believer is an atheist who believes in goodness and the sourse of goodness - GOD.

I'm a little confused.

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists. - From Wikipedia

I agree that most atheists have a hate on for organized religions, which is fine with me. But I wonder if they realize that it takes as much faith to be an atheist as it does to be a believer? They Claim to know the unknowable.

"The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet."

The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato

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I'm a little confused.

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists. - From Wikipedia

I agree that most atheists have a hate on for organized religions, which is fine with me. But I wonder if they realize that it takes as much faith to be an atheist as it does to be a believer? They Claim to know the unknowable.

Most atheists are people that hate religion - that is what I have found. Some even class me as an atheist because I have no use for formal dogma. Forget the dictionary explaination of the word...atheists are angry..they are pissed off when they are lied to and lied to on an institutional level...GOD has never lied to an atheist - religion has. Yes it does take a great amount of faith to be an atheist - a lot of self confidence and a free thinking mind - exactly like a believer in God the great nothing....I find that atheists are usually wonderful people who remind me of ancient Christians who reject bull shit.

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I believe we are on to something here. As the writer mentioned it takes great daring and blind faith to be an atheist. Jesus the Christ would have been considered an atheist in his time - most to not understand or bother to consider that. He kept it simple - that there was a creative and intelligent source of power (God) or as he refered to it as "the father" - "no one comes to the father except through me" - In other words - forget religion and be a Jesus who understands that we as individuals are the sons of the creator - and we must stay connected to the power that generated the endless universe - Christ was probably the most famous atheist ever!

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I believe we are on to something here. As the writer mentioned it takes great daring and blind faith to be an atheist.

It also takes blind faith to believe in a god. I am agnostic, with more or less atheistic leanings, but hey if it works for you, then for for it. I agree with your sentiments about organized religion.

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