Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 one thing that I find disturbing is CTV's obvious contractual link to Nanos, Well CBC reports nothing but EKOS, as far as I can tell. Quote
CANADIEN Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Well CBC reports nothing but EKOS, as far as I can tell. All media tends to mostly report polls they have commissioned. Big deal. Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 At this point voters have decided it is all about the ground game in the close ridings. Quote
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 All media tends to mostly report polls they have commissioned. Big deal. Yeah, that was my point. Quote
Evening Star Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I'm thinking it might actually be an NDP drop. My suspicion/fear as well... We'll all pinch ourselves and wake up... Quote
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Well CBC reports nothing but EKOS, as far as I can tell. that isn't good as well.. Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 He tweeted that Layton has less ground to make up to become PM then Harper does to win a Majority and the Liberal Bleeding has stopped. Sounds to me like it will look like what we have seen from other major pollsters like AR. NDP 3 or 4 points back from the Conservatives, Liberals still have some life in Ontario and maybe just MAYBE Atlantic Canada. Quote
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 All media tends to mostly report polls they have commissioned. Big deal. if it was a political party doing it it wouldn't be a big deal...but this a journalistic news source so then it is a big deal... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
CANADIEN Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 if it was a political party doing it it wouldn't be a big deal...but this a journalistic news source so then it is a big deal... As long as they are clear in where they take their source from, I do not have one bit of a problem with it. Quote
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 At this point voters have decided it is all about the ground game in the close ridings. the experts disagree, with a popular surge ground game doesn't count for anything people are engaged and motivated and don't need encouragement to vote, those who are motivated on both sides will come out... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Who's Doing What? Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 if it was a political party doing it it wouldn't be a big deal...but this a journalistic news source so then it is a big deal... Quit your crying and randomly phone 10,000 people accross the country and get your own results. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Quit your crying and randomly phone 10,000 people accross the country and get your own results. Nanos calls 300 people a night. I do more then that in the ridding by myself. Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 There should really be some lawsuits over this smear campaign. I think that has already been handed over to the NDP lawyers. Quote
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 As long as they are clear in where they take their source from, I do not have one bit of a problem with it. if they framed by saying "one pollster is reporting this, yadda, yadda" that's ok...but when they infer it as their pollster is only definitive pollster then they're misleading the viewer... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 He tweeted that Layton has less ground to make up to become PM then Harper does to win a Majority and the Liberal Bleeding has stopped. I think you're right. I just saw a tweet that said all 4 polls released today (at least to the one doing the tweeting, since we haven't seen EKOS) have Ontario numbers that are different. We'll pretty much have to wait to find out. Quote
Evening Star Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 He tweeted that Layton has less ground to make up to become PM then Harper does to win a Majority and the Liberal Bleeding has stopped. Sounds to me like it will look like what we have seen from other major pollsters like AR. NDP 3 or 4 points back from the Conservatives, Liberals still have some life in Ontario and maybe just MAYBE Atlantic Canada. Just saw those. You're probably right then. Quote
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Quit your crying and randomly phone 10,000 people accross the country and get your own results. have sex and travel Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Evening Star Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) I'm not sure I ever expected in my life to see a poll that showed the LPC below 20%. Edited April 30, 2011 by Evening Star Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Know what this sounds like to me? Sounds like the same story we got last weekend and the weekend before. NDP voters (Young families, young people, etc.) aren't home on the weekend. Look at the polling the NDP level off or decline in all the weekend polls. I know they have to sample so many type of people that doesn't mean that they are sampling the cross section though. Quote
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 According to Frank Graves, much of the NDP support comes from people who otherwise would have voted CPC. Quote
lukin Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 According to Frank Graves, much of the NDP support comes from people who otherwise would have voted CPC. Frank Graves has very little credibility. Quote
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Frank Graves has very little credibility. You have very little credibility. Quote
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 According to Frank Graves' latest tweet, both the CPC and NDP have firm supporters that are sure to vote. He says that the edge still belongs to the CPC, but that doesn't sound like they have much of a lead at all. Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 According to Frank Graves' latest tweet, both the CPC and NDP have firm supporters that are sure to vote. He says that the edge still belongs to the CPC, but that doesn't sound like they have much of a lead at all. If he says Liberal support has firmed it means any climb from the last came from the CPC. That is good news all around. Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 NDP said they had 4000 people at a rally today in BC. If true that would the biggest one yet this election. Quote
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