Vancouver King Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 I don't know why you say this. I have already indicated I prefer a strong minority to majority. I disagree with your tactics at this stage of the game suddenly starting posting against liberals based on theoretical polls especially when I know you are not a conservative supporter so divide and conquer is not your goal. I want a Liberal minority propped up by NDP support. This will serve to facilitate Trudeau's campaign promises while holding the insider scumbags away from their traditional assault on the public purse. Why run real risk when an outcome in the public interest is at hand? Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Canada_First Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 We need to get progressives to vote NDP. The Liberals are already embroiled in a scandal and they're not even in office yet. What else don't we know about I wonder? What else will we find out about after the election? Why take the chance? Vote NDP in 2015. Join the real progressive party. Join the NDP. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 I want a Liberal minority propped up by NDP support. This will serve to facilitate Trudeau's campaign promises while holding the insider scumbags away from their traditional assault on the public purse. Why run real risk when an outcome in the public interest is at hand? If you believe that minority govts are a way to keep the insiders at bay (all parties). I have a bridge to sell you. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
cybercoma Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Wait, you didn't even vote in the EDA election? Why not? I didn't have as much time this year to be as involved as I have been in the past. Quote
dre Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 We need to get progressives to vote NDP. The Liberals are already embroiled in a scandal and they're not even in office yet. What else don't we know about I wonder? What else will we find out about after the election? Why take the chance? Vote NDP in 2015. Join the real progressive party. Join the NDP. The scandal is stupid. Look... it really sucks that our political system is dominated by lobbiests, revolving doors and background deals. But its perfectly legal and its been going on for years and years and years. If you want to express moral outrage about this then fine, but I sure as hell hope youre a consistant opponent of the corporate lobby but I sure as hell doubt you are. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Canada_First Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 The scandal is stupid. Look... it really sucks that our political system is dominated by lobbiests, revolving doors and background deals. But its perfectly legal and its been going on for years and years and years. If you want to express moral outrage about this then fine, but I sure as hell hope youre a consistant opponent of the corporate lobby but I sure as hell doubt you are. I'm sure the Liberals thought the Adscam scandal was stupid too. Doesn't make it so. If the Liberals are already breaking rules what else can we look forward to? How many other rules will they choose to ignore? Also in the future please refrain from discussing me. I'm dealing with facts here. You or I are irrelevant. Thank you. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 It is regrettable that a principled stance is sullied by 'support' like yours. Nothing, repeat nothing, is going to prevent Stephen Harper's political demise. My object is to keep an obvious strong Liberal plurality result in the ballpark and avoid any majority outcome. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
blueblood Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 The scandal is stupid. Look... it really sucks that our political system is dominated by lobbiests, revolving doors and background deals. But its perfectly legal and its been going on for years and years and years. If you want to express moral outrage about this then fine, but I sure as hell hope youre a consistant opponent of the corporate lobby but I sure as hell doubt you are. Irs not even a scandal. As much as im team blue, a scandal this does not make. Unless there is brown envelopes stuffed with taxpayer money being exchanged on the hush hush, ill hold my breath for that. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Canada_First Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 It is regrettable that a principled stance is sullied by 'support' like yours. Nothing, repeat nothing, is going to prevent Stephen Harper's political demise. My object is to keep an obvious strong Liberal plurality result in the ballpark and avoid any majority outcome. We need principled people like Mulcair to lead Canada. The NDP has always been the progressive voice of Canada. They need to remain that way. Mulcair only need 35 seats. Don't give your vote to Liberal scandal. Vote NDP. Vote for a new clean government. Team orange. Quote
Bryan Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Irs not even a scandal. As much as im team blue, a scandal this does not make. It absolutely should be a scandal, but it won't be because it's business as usual. Unless there is brown envelopes stuffed with taxpayer money being exchanged on the hush hush, ill hold my breath for that. This was arranging who to give those envelopes to. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 It absolutely should be a scandal, but it won't be because it's business as usual. This was arranging who to give those envelopes to. We dont know if envelopes were to be passed in the first place. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Canada_First Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 We dont know if envelopes were to be passed in the first place. We had Adscam already by the Liberals. It's not hard to imagine another Liberal scandal by Trudeau. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 It is regrettable that a principled stance is sullied by 'support' like yours. Nothing, repeat nothing, is going to prevent Stephen Harper's political demise. My object is to keep an obvious strong Liberal plurality result in the ballpark and avoid any majority outcome. I think you need to worry less about the strength of the Liberal plurality and more about the possibility that the Conservatives will get back in. This is going to be closer than you think. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
blueblood Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 We had Adscam already by the Liberals. It's not hard to imagine another Liberal scandal by Trudeau. Anyone can have a "scandal". Heck the cpc had a "scandal" when they paid back duffys expenses with nigel wrights own money. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
ToadBrother Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Anyone can have a "scandal". Heck the cpc had a "scandal" when they paid back duffys expenses with nigel wrights own money. And violated both the Criminal Code and the Parliament act in the process. Quote
Bryan Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 I didn't have as much time this year to be as involved as I have been in the past. I don't either, but I at least took the time to vote. Quote
Bryan Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Anyone can have a "scandal". Heck the cpc had a "scandal" when they paid back duffys expenses with nigel wrights own money. If paying back someone else's expenses while kicking them out for incurring it is what qualifies as a scandal, the CPC might just be the cleanest government in the history of western democracy. Quote
Canada_First Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 What's amazing is that the Liberals didn't even bother to wait until they were in power to start courting big corps. They were so arrogant that they thought they needn't wait for an election. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 If paying back someone else's expenses while kicking them out for incurring it is what qualifies as a scandal, the CPC might just be the cleanest government in the history of western democracy. Whatever the reasons for Wright giving Duffy the money, the law is clear, it is a criminal act to give money to an elected official in Canada. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 And violated both the Criminal Code and the Parliament act in the process. And that is up to the courts Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Bryan Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) the law is clear, it is a criminal act to give money to an elected official in Canada. A/ That is not even remotely true, and B/ Duffy is not an elected official. Edited October 17, 2015 by Bryan Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 A/ That is not even remotely true, and B/ Duffy is not an elected official. Both the Parliament Act and the Criminal Code ban giving public officials money. And yes, I misspoke, but Duffy is still a public official and a parliamentarian. Quote
Evening Star Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Cybercoma, I'm almost the opposite of you: I voted for Paul Dewar despite the NDP campaign. Quote
Bryan Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Both the Parliament Act and the Criminal Code ban giving public officials money. People legally give public officials money all of the time. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 People legally give public officials money all of the time. Yes, and it must be reported. Quote
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