M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) You think 2011 will be the year Canada pulls out of Afghanistan? Think again. We had a debate in 2008 which then extended the mission to 2011. I should not need to spoon feed you, but since you got your bib on. http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/281712 http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/792975--ottawa-mum-on-canada-s-future-in-afghanistan You said this long...as in up till now....now you are reaching for future deployments...which means you have failed to back up your original statement, that Canada was not intended to be there THIS long. Try at least to show that there was an intendewd withdrawl date before the day "up until now" Think before you emote. Edited March 21, 2011 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 You said this long...as in up till now....now you are reaching for future deployments...which means you have failed to back up your original statement, that Canada was not intended to be there THIS long. Try at least to show that there was an intendewd withdrawl date before the day "up until now" Think before you emote. Yes the initial pull out date was 2009. But debate in parliment brought it to 2011. Here, let me wipe your chin for you. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 I'll actually add to this there M. Dancer .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_role_in_the_Afghanistan_War Although not participating at all in the opening days of the invasion, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's Liberal government announced on October 7 that Canada would contribute forces to the international force being formed to conduct a campaign against terrorism. General Ray Henault, the Chief of the Defence Staff, issued preliminary orders to several CF units, as Operation Apollo was established. The Canadian commitment was originally planned to last to October 2003. So we have two pull out dates, 2003 and 2009. Now 2011. We will still be there in 2012 and beyond. Quote
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 I'll actually add to this there M. Dancer .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_role_in_the_Afghanistan_War So we have two pull out dates, 2003 and 2009. Now 2011. We will still be there in 2012 and beyond. Yup, plus Harper has increased the number of troops staying in Afghanistan after the so called "pull out" to 800 from 200... Along with changing it to a significantly more dangerous role... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) I'll actually add to this there M. Dancer .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_role_in_the_Afghanistan_War So we have two pull out dates, 2003 and 2009. Now 2011. We will still be there in 2012 and beyond. So you think Operation Apollo was and is the be all and end all of our commitments to Afghanistan? *chortle* Operation Apollo ended in 2003.... Now find in Hansard where thye put an end to military operations other than 2011.. Edited March 21, 2011 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) So you think Operation Apollo was and is the be all and end all of our commitments to Afghanistan? *chortle* Operation Apollo ended in 2003.... Now find in Hansard where thye put an end to military operations other than 2011.. Maybe you can post me a link to the Hansard article? I GOTS MAH BIB ON !!! Edited March 21, 2011 by GostHacked Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Maybe you can post me a link to the Hansard article? I GOTS MAH BIB ON !!! Are you asking me to make you look stupider than you do to yourself? Okay.... No standard web pages containing all your search terms were found.Your search - someting to show that Gosthacked knows what he is babbling about - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords. Only idiots ask people to prove a negative. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Are you asking me to make you look stupider than you do to yourself? Only idiots ask people to prove a negative. So, what you are saying is that you don't have a cite for this Hansard report? Edited March 21, 2011 by GostHacked Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 So, what you are saying is that you don't have a cite for this Hansard report? Yes I am saying that I have no quote for something I claim does not exist. Are you claiming there is a quote? Please find it. Find around 2002 that canada's military involvement will end in XXXX. Are you smart enough to see the whole you dug for yourself? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 Only idiots ask people to prove a negative. Hmmm, interesting, I can't think of anyone who'd know that better than you... Wanna get back to the subject matter now? Or are we all "trapped" by the Bush Legacy and it doesn't matter what Canada does in Afghanistan or anywhere else any more than it matters any more what the US does or doesn't do? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Yes I am saying that I have no quote for something I claim does not exist. Are you claiming there is a quote? Please find it. Find around 2002 that canada's military involvement will end in XXXX. Are you smart enough to see the whole you dug for yourself? The whole hole, or just part of it? Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Hmmm, interesting, I can't think of anyone who'd know that better than you... Wanna get back to the subject matter now? Or are we all "trapped" by the Bush Legacy and it doesn't matter what Canada does in Afghanistan or anywhere else any more than it matters any more what the US does or doesn't do? Orange Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 The whole hole, or just part of it? That was clever. I knew you would be, eventually.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 Orange No, nuts... http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=18306&view=findpost&p=642336 Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Shady Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Or are we all "trapped" by the Bush Legacy and it doesn't matter what Canada does in Afghanistan or anywhere else any more than it matters any more what the US does or doesn't do? I see that you've still got Bush Derangement Syndrome on your mind. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 I see that you've still got Bush Derangement Syndrome on your mind. Is that similar to your Obama Derangement Syndrome? Quote
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 As the "west" bickers, bitches and waffles Gaddafi takes action proving he knows how to manipulate the Libyan situation to his full advantage... "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" is fracturing the US and the "west" with every move Gaddafi makes... Gaddafi forces shell Libyan city - Libyan government spokesman Ibrahim said Misurata, Libya's third-largest city, was "liberated three days ago" and that Gaddafi's forces were hunting "terrorist elements". But a spokesman for opposition fighters in the city told the AFP news agency that the opposition remained in control despite an onslaught by Gaddafi loyalists, who he said opened fire with tanks and set snipers on roofs to gun down people in the streets. "Casualties fell in their dozens," after snipers and a tank "fired on demonstrators", the spokesman said. The opposition spokesman said Gaddafi's troops "have taken up position along the main road where they have deployed three tanks, as well as positioning snipers on rooftops". Meanwhile, a US F-15 jet crashed in Libya late on Monday, reportedly due to a technical fault during a raid against anti-aircraft defences. The US Africa command said on Tuesday that both its crew ejected safely. A command spokeswoman told AFP news agency that the crash was not a result of hostile action and an investigation to determine the cause of the malfunction was underway. - The Bush Legacy continues and Gaddafi is loving it... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 ....The Bush Legacy continues and Gaddafi is loving it... The only thing Ghaddafi is loving are all those perks from Paul Martin! Russia wants to save Ghaddafi's hide with a UNSC cease-fire before the "Bush Legacy" kills him. The "Martin Legacy" sure didn't hurt him one bit. LOL! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 The only thing Ghaddafi is loving are all those perks from Paul Martin! Russia wants to save Ghaddafi's hide with a UNSC cease-fire before the "Bush Legacy" kills him. The "Martin Legacy" sure didn't hurt him one bit. LOL! So what is it this time, oil? setting up a FOB ?? War on Terror? Liberating another peoples? And Qaddafi won't be killed in this fiasco, hell it's not even part of the plan. Killing him is off the table! Quote
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 So what is it this time, oil? setting up a FOB ?? War on Terror? Liberating another peoples? And Qaddafi won't be killed in this fiasco, hell it's not even part of the plan. Killing him is off the table! Woah there, OFFICIALLY off the table does not necessarily mean practically off the table... But really it doesn't matter at this point... Gaddafi has done the damage to the US and the "west" he intended to do from the outset... The once powerful United States is reduced to being an also ran both globally and domestically as the following clearly illustrates > Ron Paul: Libya No Fly Zone Unconstitutional - "Texas Congressman Ron Paul has joined the growing chorus of voices opposing President Barack Obama's decision to go to war in Libya without Congressional approval. Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that Congress shall have the power "To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water." In a video shot on Friday, Ron Paul calls President Obama's decision to impose a no-fly zone over Libya "an act of war." "The no-fly zone is unconstitutional because Congress has not authorized it," he says. Watch the full video below. The idea that any one man has the power to take the entire nation to war is downright undemocratic regardless of who is president. A recent FOX News poll found 65 of registered voters opposed to U.S. military involvement in Libya. The tragedy playing out in Libya demands the world attention, but it is hardly unique. Last week, Saudi Arabian forces invaded Bahrain to help the repressive al-Khalifa monarchy brutally suppress an uprising by the nation's Shia majority. In attacking Muammar Gaddafi while ignoring the atrocities committed by the House of Saud, President Obama continues the longstanding U.S. tradition of condemning one dictator while shaking hands with another. This is not the change we voted for in 2008. It is business as usual. No wonder he didn't want the issue to go before Congress, where lawmakers like Ron Paul could have engaged in a public debate over the rationale for going to war in Libya. If the past ten years of the War on Terror have taught us anything, it should be that these types of decisions should never be made behind closed doors." - Watch a US News Network like CNN and one quickly learns that the United States is a mere shadow of the once great nation it was... Gaddafi has managed to manipulate the US like the well seasoned puppet master he is, and was, ever since 9/11 happened... Even worse was when Bush proved that there never was any such thing as a "war on terror" by letting the world's #1 proven terrorist, Ghaddafi, off the hook in '05... Ghaddafi "giving up" his "nuke ambitions", something he never had and had no intention of getting, was the crowning glory of the Bush Legacy as it is now being played out... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 ...Even worse was when Bush proved that there never was any such thing as a "war on terror" by letting the world's #1 proven terrorist, Ghaddafi, off the hook in '05... Ghaddafi "giving up" his "nuke ambitions", something he never had and had no intention of getting, was the crowning glory of the Bush Legacy as it is now being played out... It was the crowning glory alright...for Paul Martin, leader of the Liberal Party of Canada! LOL! Grits and Ghaddafi....sounds like a great breakfast served with oil services contracts. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Even worse was when Bush proved that there never was any such thing as a "war on terror" by letting the world's #1 proven terrorist, Ghaddafi, off the hook in '05... Ghaddafi "giving up" his "nuke ambitions", something he never had and had no intention of getting, was the crowning glory of the Bush Legacy as it is now being played out... Ghaddafi was the world's #1 proven terrorist? Is that ranked like the BCS? Bush Derangement Syndrome gets more and more entertaining! Quote
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 It was the crowning glory alright...for Paul Martin, leader of the Liberal Party of Canada! LOL! Grits and Ghaddafi....sounds like a great breakfast served with oil services contracts. And? Seeing you reduced to this level of posting is truly sad BC... Especially after I spanked you so badly on this subject matter already on this very thread... You've got nothing left I know, no dignity, no argument, just nothing... That's truly very sad indeed... BUT, I guess not surprising, considering the sad state the United States itself is in today... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 And? Seeing you reduced to this level of posting is truly sad BC... Especially after I spanked you so badly on this subject matter already on this very thread... It's just fun...new guys like you are always great as chum for my post count. You've got nothing left I know, no dignity, no argument, just nothing... I got America bombing Ghaddafi in 1986, but Canada's Liberal Party prime minister kissing his ass in a tent in 2004. Saaaaaaamooooooooch! Priceless! http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bargains-with-gadhafi-should-the-world-deal-with-the-devil/article1936086/?service=mobile That's truly very sad indeed... BUT, I guess not surprising, considering the sad state the United States itself is in today... LOL! "Get Ghaddaffy! Oh...not us (Canada)...let the Sad United States do it instead. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 And? Seeing you reduced to this level of posting is truly sad BC... Especially after I spanked you so badly on this subject matter already on this very thread... You've got nothing left I know, no dignity, no argument, just nothing... That's truly very sad indeed... BUT, I guess not surprising, considering the sad state the United States itself is in today... I don't think you are capable of knowing that your arguments are jejune. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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