Black Dog Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Homosexuality is a choice and transgenered surgery is not a necessary surgery that the tax payer should pay for. Did you choose heterosexuality? As for gender reassignment surgery, Gender Identity Disorder is a medically recognized condition. It also costs the taxpayers a mere $200K a year. Who cares? I don't think that 8 year olds need to be taught about homosexuality and other sexual deviants. Why not? Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 I won't be lectured on the words of my Lord by an Atheist. You need to be lectured by someone, preferably by as intellectual equal or better. I will see if there is a traffic pylon available. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
WIP Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Canada needs a return to traditional family values. This concept is constantly under attack from the left. They hate traditional family values , morals and ethics. We need to celebrate the traditional family unit. One man, one woman and children. Perfect, the way God intended it to be. Yeah, I'm celebrating by looking after my own family unit and not trying to force it on gays or people who aren't cut out for married life! Two years ago, New Scientist published a report that shows that conservatives are the biggest consumers of online pornography -- Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers . Among the research findings on bandwith traffic for online porn purchasing, we find that Utah is the largest per capita consumer of porn in the USA. Now, can you get any more family values than Utah? Sure, I know they're going to hell because they're not real Christians, but there's no state in the U.S. where people don't get more preaching at them about family values! Also in the findings.... Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays – a 1% increase in a postal code's religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds. Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don't explicitly restrict gay marriage. To get a better handle on other associations between social attitudes and pornography consumption, Edelman melded his data with a previous study on public attitudes toward religion. States where a majority of residents agreed with the statement "I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage," bought 3.6 more subscriptions per thousand people than states where a majority disagreed. A similar difference emerged for the statement "AIDS might be God's punishment for immoral sexual behaviour." "One natural hypothesis is something like repression: if you're told you can't have this, then you want it more," Edelman says. Bingo Doc! I think you hit the bullseye. So, Mr. Canada, are you trying to promote family values here? Or trying to increase the consumption of internet porn? I'm sensing that there may be subversive intentions at work. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 Instead of attacking silly things why not try telling us what is wrong with the traditional family unit that you seem to be so against. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Bitsy Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 I won't be lectured on the words of my Lord by an Atheist. Why do you assume I am an atheist? Quote
scouterjim Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Why do you assume I am an atheist? Obviously, anybody who disagrees with him is either an atheist, a communist, or both. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 Why do you assume I am an atheist? Most of the people who attack me are socialist-communist atheists. I could be wrong, in any case, I apologize. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Black Dog Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Instead of attacking silly things why not try telling us what is wrong with the traditional family unit that you seem to be so against. Not enough buttsex. Quote
WIP Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Instead of attacking silly things why not try telling us what is wrong with the traditional family unit that you seem to be so against. In case you can't figure it out, I already have a traditional family by your standards. After living together common-law for close to three years, my wife and I got married in Jan. 1988. We have two sons, and my wife has had to be stay-at-home for medical reasons for the last ten years. I don't drink alcohol, smoke, take drugs, screw around, or spend my time watching porn...although won't claim that I didn't buy porn when I was young, or watch it online when I got my first computer. The difference is that I'm not interested in trying to wipe these things in everyone else's faces, and tell them that they have to live the way I do! I know that this would be self-defeating, for reasons like one I already cited previously about conservative's consumption of porn. People have different levels of impulse awareness and control; some people have strong compulsions towards addictive behaviour (whatever their personal addictions are) and some don't! I just happen to be someone who has a lesser need for stimulation and excitement than many other people apparently. I don't wear a !@#$%^ halo about it, it's just the way I am, and I don't expect people who are more strongly addictive/compulsive to be satisfied doing the things that I like to do. Nor do I expect people with a homosexual attraction to deny their sexual orientation or enter sham marriages to hide the fact. I would prefer that they have the opportunity to live their lives in the way that they feel happy; and if that means they wish to have same-sex marriages, then they should have the opportunity to do so. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Black Dog Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) A better response than the OP deserves, WIP. Edited February 28, 2011 by Black Dog Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 The "traditional Family" unit is one of those things that bugs me. Mainly because it defies absolute definition given that throughout time, the structure of the family has changed repeatedly. Pick any era and the family unit will be somewhat different than it is today, and no amount of nostalgia will make a family from the 18th century form acceptable to sane westerners today. When some people devoid of context or a degree of intelligence (not naming names) mentions a "traditional family", they generally think of the model from the 50s and 60s..which in itself was an anomaly not likely repeated any time soon. prior to the post war boom, and prior to the depression, most families and not just one breadwinner, but often 3 or 4. Good to remember that prior to the industrial revolution, most people were agrarian, which meant not only was the father working to feed the family, so were the sons and daughters, wives and in-laws....and during the Industrial revolution that didn't change either.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Mr.Canada Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Posted March 1, 2011 Society will become more stable the more people embrace the traditional family unit. We need less single mothers. We need the men to settle down and marry their women instead of setting up franchises that the tax payer has to pay for. Families are happier and more stable when they have both a mother and a father. We need to celebrate people that do the right thing and live a wholesome life instead of celebrating deviant lives. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shakeyhands Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Not enough buttsex. Good point. You know, I've been thinking... Being married was interesting but we ended up divorcing, nice girl and all, but we had diverging goals in life. We're happily raising our children though and to be quite honest I still think she is a lovely girl. Since then, I've met another woman and have fallen in love and we have a very comfortable and rewarding life together now. But really, what I think I may be missing is buttsex! Seeing as though it was a choice that I made at some point to be heterosexual (even though I have no recollection of the moment that I decided to be straight as opposed to all funny and all) I think maybe I didn't put enough thought in to men! Perhaps I'll give that a swing now. What the hell. I bet you all know when you sat down with yourselves and decided which sex you were attracted to right? Maybe we should start a thread and tell these wonderous stories!!!! In the meantime, I'm headed out to find me some hot buttsex. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
capricorn Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 I want to see what response I get from this first. How's this for a response. Go buck a fuffalo. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 If people don't want to lead moral lives with common decency solid family values, that's fine they're free not to. Society would be better off if more people did. People are free to live the way they want, yet we need a dictatorship. Go figure... Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 It's a fairly pressing issue when the province is trying to force teachers to explain to children 8 years of age about homosexuality and other immoralities of our society. Trying to pass them off as normal. If that's what was happening, perhaps you would have the shadow of hint of a beginning of a point. Sorry to burst your homophobic bubble, but telling a 8 year old that little Johnny down the road has two mommies is not gonna change their sexual orientation later on. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 I won't be lectured on the words of my Lord by an Atheist. OK then. You will be lectured by a Christian, namely me. What Bitsy posted is right on, and only moralistic hypocrites would claim to be Christian and ignore it. You want to talk morality and decency? Treating others like if they were Christ Himself is the ultimate morality. Time you start living it. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 You need to be lectured by someone, preferably by as intellectual equal or better. I will see if there is a traffic pylon available. Stop insulting traffic pylons. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Instead of attacking silly things why not try telling us what is wrong with the traditional family unit that you seem to be so against. Pornography is not a silly thing. And nobody here has said anything against the Pop-and-mom and children family model. Do yourself a favour and don't make a fool of yourself by arguing that's what's happening here. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Society will become more stable the more people embrace the traditional family unit. We need less single mothers. We need the men to settle down and marry their women instead of setting up franchises that the tax payer has to pay for. Families are happier and more stable when they have both a mother and a father. We need to celebrate people that do the right thing and live a wholesome life instead of celebrating deviant lives. What we need is more people who follow god's command to treat other people like if they were Christ, wouldn't you agree? Because then what is more important is not how many parents a child has or their gender, but whether or not they are loved, nurtered, encouraged, and if they have a roof over their head and food on the table. As for families being happier when there's a mother and a father, there are plenty of examples to show that this is not an universal truth. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 How's this for a response. Go buck a fuffalo. Have mercy on fuffaloes. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Canada needs a return to traditional family values. This concept is constantly under attack from the left. They hate traditional family values , morals and ethics. We need to celebrate the traditional family unit. One man, one woman and children. Perfect, the way God intended it to be. Canada needs to return no only toi family values but to a thing called diligence and honour...The average young person growing up is not taught that your word and reputation is worth more than a million bucks...We have developed a sytem were being inaccurate in judgement is acceptable...and the spreading of misinformation along with rampant dellusions spawned from an undisiplined imagination...has become common place. If I tell you I will meet you at the North Pole at 12 noon..on Friday...I will be there at 11:30.............because I have empathy...because I have honour and I actually care about you and the world...Most people these day simply do not even show up or call...because a culture of contempt and disrepect for your fellows is offically institutionalized - and our teaching system thinks it is just fine. The teach us we are all equal...so no one is special or to be respected. We are not equal - when you show disrespect and dis-honour...You become an inferiour...that's reality. Quote
scouterjim Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Canada needs to return no only toi family values but to a thing called diligence and honour...The average young person growing up is not taught that your word and reputation is worth more than a million bucks...We have developed a sytem were being inaccurate in judgement is acceptable...and the spreading of misinformation along with rampant dellusions spawned from an undisiplined imagination...has become common place. If I tell you I will meet you at the North Pole at 12 noon..on Friday...I will be there at 11:30.............because I have empathy...because I have honour and I actually care about you and the world...Most people these day simply do not even show up or call...because a culture of contempt and disrepect for your fellows is offically institutionalized - and our teaching system thinks it is just fine. The teach us we are all equal...so no one is special or to be respected. We are not equal - when you show disrespect and dis-honour...You become an inferiour...that's reality. Given all the world's time zones end at the North Pole, which 12 noon are you going to use? Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
WIP Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 The "traditional Family" unit is one of those things that bugs me. Mainly because it defies absolute definition given that throughout time, the structure of the family has changed repeatedly. Pick any era and the family unit will be somewhat different than it is today, and no amount of nostalgia will make a family from the 18th century form acceptable to sane westerners today. When some people devoid of context or a degree of intelligence (not naming names) mentions a "traditional family", they generally think of the model from the 50s and 60s..which in itself was an anomaly not likely repeated any time soon. prior to the post war boom, and prior to the depression, most families and not just one breadwinner, but often 3 or 4. Good to remember that prior to the industrial revolution, most people were agrarian, which meant not only was the father working to feed the family, so were the sons and daughters, wives and in-laws....and during the Industrial revolution that didn't change either.... Yes, the traditionalists seem to go back half a decade, rather than go back to the way we lived when the majority of people lived and worked on the farm....which in Canada, if I recall, was about 1900 before the non-farming population exceeded 50%. The problem with the "nuclear family" is that all of the moving around over the last 50 years has busted up extended family relationships. I live in a neighbourhood with a high immigrant population, and one thing that gets my notice is how many grandparents are out and at the local park with their grandchildren. Most of the people here have their preschoolers in daycare, while the grandparents are living in Florida or some seniors compound, and have visits with the grandkids once or twice a month. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
WIP Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 A better response than the OP deserves, WIP. Thanks! What I find especially frustrating with the Christian Family Values crowd, is that they are uniformly purveyors of rightwing economic theory....which, if anything has increased the culture of hedonism, consumer-driven economics would be it. They worship materialism and accumulation of wealth, and want a completely unregulated market where advertisers swamp the private broadcasters with sophisticated ad campaigns designed to generate and increase desire for whatever the marketer is trying to sell. We have spent our lives being bombarded with messages and images designed to make us more impulsive, so we are more susceptible to have desires that the marketer feels will spin off in the direction of purchasing more of his products. And then we end up with Christian Fundamentalists complaining about young people who can't control themselves, and want immediate gratification Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
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