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The door is always open to you provided you put the meat on the table.

And the door is always open for you to go back and read what I've already posted. :)

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There is. They only pay a small percentage of their salary for them. They're being asked to pay a bit more. Half of what everyone else pays.

You keep ignoring the fact they're also being 'asked' to let their unions be busted by RTW legislation which would make union dues voluntary, which would stop the employer from collecting them, which would require recertification every year, and which would forbid them bargaining about anything but salary - and then refuse them the right to bargain for salary above the rate of inflation!

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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One can only hope...each state should be Right To Work (RTW) anyway. If they want to join a union, go for it, and face the economic consequences.

Ah yes, back to the good old days! When cringing employees could be beaten at ones will, and thrown out the door the moment they get old or sickly! What a wonderful society American will build where the wealthy live in their walled palaces and the rest of the country crawls in the gutters begging for food.

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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You keep ignoring the fact they're also being 'asked' to let their unions be busted by RTW legislation which would make union dues voluntary, which would stop the employer from collecting them, which would require recertification every year, and which would forbid them bargaining about anything but salary - and then refuse them the right to bargain for salary above the rate of inflation!

They have to re-negotiate new contracts anyway...if they don't want to play, new teachers are waiting in the wings!

Bust the unions NOW! ;)

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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You keep ignoring the fact they're also being 'asked' to let their unions be busted by RTW legislation which would make union dues voluntary, which would stop the employer from collecting them, which would require recertification every year, and which would forbid them bargaining about anything but salary - and then refuse them the right to bargain for salary above the rate of inflation!

Without the financial resources there would be no recertification. What is being proposed would eventually lead to the demise of unions and collective bargaining.

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Ah yes, back to the good old days! When cringing employees could be beaten at ones will, and thrown out the door the moment they get old or sickly! What a wonderful society American will build where the wealthy live in their walled palaces and the rest of the country crawls in the gutters begging for food.

Hey, it's America's "society"...not yours. Should I gnash teeth over what happens to poor, unproductive Canadian workers who are routinely told to stop whining and move to Alberta?

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Ah yes, back to the good old days! When cringing employees could be beaten at ones will, and thrown out the door the moment they get old or sickly! What a wonderful society American will build where the wealthy live in their walled palaces and the rest of the country crawls in the gutters begging for food.

Well, no, Scotty. As I understand it, when left to their "natural devices" (employers being "natural" and unions not, evidently), employers will be naturally generous and fair-minded.

It's never happneed before, of course, but the fantasy is a lovely one....

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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Yes...the closet one is in Manitoba....they have a long KKK history.

Unless your trailer park is in North Dakota I doubt that. Are you an active member of the Klan?

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There is no argument...your contention of higher Canadian productivity is not sustained. Next!

Thanks for conceeding my point...

BTW - does the US include the up to 40 MILLION illegal workers in the US in calculating their GDP? Yes or No will do...

BTW - does the US include your retirees and people who have dropped off the unemployment roles because their benefits have expired in their GDP calculations? Yes or No will do...

BTW - are your welfare recipients of employable age and your physically disabled included in the US's GDP? Yes or No will do...

There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz

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Thanks for conceeding my point...

BTW - does the US include the up to 40 MILLION illegal workers in the US in calculating their GDP? Yes or No will do...

Yes...they are even more productive. I'll take one Mexican over two Canadians any day! :)

BTW - does the US include your retirees and people who have dropped off the unemployment roles because their benefits have expired in their GDP calculations? Yes or No will do...

Yes

BTW - are your welfare recipients of employable age and your physically disabled included in the US's GDP? Yes or No will do...

Yes

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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No, but I do keep track of klan members like you. Manitoba is Canada's "Deep South".

You must have very inaccurate records. I would suggest you be more thorough in your record keeping. Maybe that disability you display hinders your capacity.

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Yes...they are even more productive. I'll take one Mexican over two Canadians any day! :)

Yes

Yes

:(

Here I thought you were honest... My bad...

There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz

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You must have very inaccurate records. I would suggest you be more thorough in your record keeping. Maybe that disability you display hinders your capacity.

Well, it is just a hobby. When your klan brothers rage and burn things in Winterpeg it sometimes makes the news, on a slow day.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Well, it is just a hobby. When your klan brothers rage and burn things in Winterpeg it sometimes makes the news, on a slow day.

Maybe you need a new hobby. To the best of my knowledge none of the members of my family engage in the activities you have attributed to them. Why are you so dishonest?

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Maybe you need a new hobby. To the best of my knowledge none of the members of my family engage in the activities you have atributed. Why are you so dishonest?

You inferred some knowledge of the KKK, making some assertions about my residence and affiliations...I guess it's still legal in Canada despite all that "hate speech" nonsense. Just keep it on your side of the border please.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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You inferred some knowledge of the KKK, making some assertions about my residence and affiliations...I guess it's still legal in Canada despite all that "hate speech" nonsense. Just keep it on your side of the border please.

Hatred isn't confined to Canada. Did you learn your dishonest behaviour when you were in the armed forces?

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You inferred some knowledge of the KKK, making some assertions about my residence and affiliations...I guess it's still legal in Canada despite all that "hate speech" nonsense. Just keep it on your side of the border please.

Ah, the Klan is an American phenomenon, only having seeped into Canada thanks to those redneck Canadians who wish they were Americans...the sort that admires you here, on this board, a shrivelled minority of two or three, I concede...

And your Klan sympathies are well-established, so no need to play coy.

As one douchebag likes to say: "You can't make this stuff up! Lol!"

:)

Edited by bloodyminded

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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