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By constitution, anybody not a natural born American citizen.

In spite the lack of supporting evidence, I acknowledge that Obama is indeed an American born citizen.

My reference to qualification was pertaining to life and political experiences.

Or, in Obama's case the glaring lack thereof.

Edited by Yukon Jack
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In spite the lack of supporting evidence, I acknowledge that Obama is indeed an American born citizen.

My reference to qualification was pertaining to life and political experiences.

There is no such requirement for a certain threshold of experience, save for being 35 years of age. This is by design.

Nearly anyone can become president within these constraints. What a country!

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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There is no such requirement for a certain threshold of experience, save for being 35 years of age. This is by design.

Nearly anyone can become president within these constraints. What a country!/quote]

So why is there so much antipathy about Sarah Palin?

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So why is there so much antipathy about Sarah Palin?

Because she is a silk purse.

RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS

If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us

Posted (edited)

Because she is a God 'fearin Christian woman...who looks a lot better than Hillary Clinton!

And even worse: She CHOSE to carry her child to term. And lovingly raise him, in spite of being differently abled. (Pardon the political correctness).

Something that the convenience-driven, politically correct, lazy Democratic/liberal-abortion-loving slugs masquerading as females would never know or understand.

Edited by Yukon Jack
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Yes of course, he's psychotic, immoral and a degenerate. More name calling. :rolleyes:

You mean rolly eyes is the only rebuttal? There's no contrary character evidence telling us what a wonderful human being Donald Trump is....that says volumes right there!

I wasn't aware you're a mind reader. Do you always attached motives to people that are impossible to prove one way or the other?

It doesn't take a crystal ball to figure out a guy who's schemes investors out of their money for personal gain, and then buys his way into celebrity culture through beauty pagents and reality TV shows. If he acts like a greedy, self-absorbed narcissist, I'm going to assume he is one.

Nice. Now you can predict the future! :lol:

Past behaviour can tell us a lot about what someone will do in the future. Especially when it's someone who tries to wrap up their vices and present them as virtues for others to follow.

Are combating China's currency manipulation, unfair trade practices such as tariffs on American exports and taking on OPEC using the nation's wealth and resources for personal advantage? Of course not. You're acting like a crazy person.

So, you're going to insist that I take this idiot's ramblings about oil seriously. Donald Trump is a dumbass and a liar! First, he makes a false claim that Wall Street is being scapegoated...when Wall Street has created a range of new, derivative investment schemes that still threaten the entire world banking and finance system....nuff said. Then the idiot claims high oil prices are because of OPEC collusion...apparently unaware of how little the U.S. oil market depends on the M.E. We're America's main supplier of foreign oil....not Saudi Arabia. But, if the Donald finds out, he'll be going on Fox and calling for an invasion of Alberta.

What this dumbass doesn't know, is that this isn't 1973. This isn't just a matter of the U.S. reaching the limits of domestic oil production; now, it's the world oil market that's past peak oil production. Why do you think they're drilling through 2 miles of rock under the sea floor, and fraking oil out of the Tar Sands? Conventional oil is running out, and there is nothing OPEC or anyone else can do to put the oil-based economy back together again. Considering the affect this industry is having on climate, the only downside to running out of oil is that they are now going after the dirtiest, and riskiest sources of supply right now. But, Trump's threat of invading Kuwait and Iraq to take their oil isn't new. Sean Hannity thinks Iraq should be showing it's gratitude for the invasion that has killed more than 100,000 civilians, and led to an internal and external refugee crisis that is still not being addressed....and they should just say 'here America, take the oil!' If Trump has to steal ideas from a dimbulb like Hannity, he really is as dumb as he sounds. It's not like Hannity is a source of original thinking himself after all.

And his comments on China: did I miss something! Did he say anything about the fact that the trade imbalance is due to U.S. manufacturers who have shut down their factories and moved their operations to China? But why should we be listening to Donald Trump anyway? Why not just go to the original sources of profound wisdom to find a presidential candidate? But, it's not like Trump would have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a Republican nomination anyway. Even if he says all of the right things that the rightwing aristocracy wants to hear, the great unwashed masses of Republican backers who are drawn in by conservative social policy and religious appeals, are never going to go near someone as odious as this clown. Donald's just looking at the publicity and attention that can be gained from a two year run for the WhiteHouse....if he has the stamina and focus to actually put up with the long hours of campaigning.

This seems to be the constant knock on Trump from his communist/progressive detractors. If one looks at the facts, and not at the kook leftwing hate speech directed toward him, it tells an entirely different story. Yes, in the early 90's, the recession hit his business hard, and he fell behind on loan payments. But those loans were restructured, so that he was able to pay them back. He also gave up 50% ownership in a couple of his luxury casinos to the banks he owned money to. Those casinos have been thriving for many years now. A shrewd investment for the banks that agreed to those terms.

His casino business filed for bankruptcy largely because his Taj Mahal couldn't generate enough revenue to cover the loans. Who payed for that btw, and allowed him to reorganize and come back in with new investors? It was his choice to finance the operation through high interest junk bonds, so the fact that the recession took a bite out of revenues for the new casino, puts him in the same boat as every other reckless investor who just assumed the good times would keep on rolling.

And, he almost filed for personal bankruptcy, and that might have been the last we would have heard of this clown otherwise. This is the fundamental problem of the corporate system. A guy who opens a restaurant, or any other business, has everything to lose if his business goes under....but not the bigshot who has the resources to incorporate and limit the reach of bankruptcy trustees to take his personal wealth. If a bigshot sleaseball still has connections to find new investors (suckers), he can do it all over again....and somehow, the right sees all of this as a system of virtue!

But again, I'm not sure what that has to do with wanting a leader to actually hold foreign currancy manipulation and unfair trade practices accountable. I'm not sure what that has to do with calling out OPEC on their economy killing policies. It's bizarre to me that you far leftwingers actually attack Trump with a thousand times the vitriol, than you do China and OPEC. Two entities that have a very negative impact on our economy and way of life. About a million times more of an impact than anything Donald Trump has ever done. It's as if your strict partisan dogma refuses to allow you to look at things any other way. It's pretty sad if that's the case.

I've already said what's wrong with his take on OPEC and China, but the biggest problem with electing a totally immoral, self-interested billionaire as president, is that he may just use the office to advance his own financial and personal interests....like the typical banana republic dictator...or Dick Cheney, if you want a domestic example. If Trump had a summit with Chinese leaders, and they offered a secret side deal to build a Trump casino in Hong Kong for him, or funneled significant amount of business to his other operations, do you think a Trump would say to himself 'I can't take the money, I have to do what's right for the country.' There are probably few leaders who put their nation's interests ahead of their own anyway, but if you deliberately seek out someone like this to start with, it's a sure guarantee that they will change nothing of importance in the country, but leave office with an even greater fortune....if they don't try to become president-for-life first.

Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist.

-- Kenneth Boulding,

1973

Guest American Woman
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Because she is a God 'fearin Christian woman...who looks a lot better than Hillary Clinton!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Guest American Woman
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And even worse: She CHOSE to carry her child to term. And lovingly raise him, in spite of being differently abled. (Pardon the political correctness).

Something that the convenience-driven, politically correct, lazy Democratic/liberal-abortion-loving slugs masquerading as females would never know or understand.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted (edited)

We're America's main supplier of foreign oil....not Saudi Arabia. But, if the Donald finds out, he'll be going on Fox and calling for an invasion of Alberta.

Nope...Canada only supplies about 25% of America's foreign oil, and part of that goes back to Canada as refined distillates. The capital investment for Alberta's oil patch came largely from...you guessed it...Americans and other multinationals.

Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country 	Oct-10 	Sep-10 	YTD '10 Oct-09 	YTD '09
CANADA 	        2,345 	2,475 	2,516 	2,367 	2,447
MEXICO 	        1,345 	1,256 	1,263 	1,136 	1,223
SAUDI ARABIA 	1,121 	1,093 	1,090 	943 	1,032
VENEZUELA 	930 	1,008 	998 	955 	1,103
NIGERIA 	872 	1,174 	1,037 	869 	770
RUSSIA 	        655 	648 	626 	385 	596
ALGERIA 	451 	543 	503 	491 	497
COLOMBIA 	422 	363 	366 	292 	285
ANGOLA 	        324 	417 	409 	450 	481
VIRGIN ISLANDS 	270 	302 	263 	215 	283
KUWAIT 	        215 	172 	207 	104 	174
ECUADOR 	203 	229 	198 	180 	198
BRAZIL 	        169 	181 	275 	174 	326
UNITED KINGDOM 	152 	178 	265 	278 	255
IRAQ 	        143 	422 	429 	499 	462

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Nope...Canada only supplies about 20% of America's oil, and part of that goes back to Canada as refined distillates. The capital investment for Alberta's oil patch came largely from...you guessed it...Americans and other multinationals.

Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country 	Oct-10 	Sep-10 	YTD '10 Oct-09 	YTD '09
CANADA 	        2,345 	2,475 	2,516 	2,367 	2,447
MEXICO 	        1,345 	1,256 	1,263 	1,136 	1,223
SAUDI ARABIA 	1,121 	1,093 	1,090 	943 	1,032
VENEZUELA 	930 	1,008 	998 	955 	1,103
NIGERIA 	872 	1,174 	1,037 	869 	770
RUSSIA 	        655 	648 	626 	385 	596
ALGERIA 	451 	543 	503 	491 	497
COLOMBIA 	422 	363 	366 	292 	285
ANGOLA 	        324 	417 	409 	450 	481
VIRGIN ISLANDS 	270 	302 	263 	215 	283
KUWAIT 	        215 	172 	207 	104 	174
ECUADOR 	203 	229 	198 	180 	198
BRAZIL 	        169 	181 	275 	174 	326
UNITED KINGDOM 	152 	178 	265 	278 	255
IRAQ 	        143 	422 	429 	499 	462

Oops! You claimed he was wrong, then accidentally posted information showing he's right. Sucks when that happens eh?

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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Oops! You claimed he was wrong, then accidentally posted information showing he's right. Sucks when that happens eh?

Try again rookie....and learn what "main supplier" means. The Saudis and Mexicans have been "main suppliers" far longer than Canada.

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Because she is a God 'fearin Christian woman...who looks a lot better than Hillary Clinton!

I kind of think she's hot....but at my age, women of a certain age are hot...

RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS

If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us

Guest American Woman
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Yeah, some day the only thing you can do is roll your eyes, especially when you see symbols displayed by an illiterate.

When I come across a post such as yours, I wish I were an illiterate. ;) But then I'd miss out on a good laugh ....... :P

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Is it time for a leader that doesn't hold dinners for countries and people that are purposely screwing him and his country through currency manipulation and one-sided trade methods. Is it time for a leader that will also challenge OPEC?

Yes, it is time for the USA to have a president that doesn't know the meaning of diplomacy. :rolleyes:

On a State dinner for the Chinese leader: This is what is done for visiting dignataries. This is nothing new, and is probably good for relations. In fact, the Chinese didn't put Obama up in a bamboo hut with a bowl of rice for his 2009 visit....

On OPEC: Stand up to them how? They are selling THEIR oil. THey own it. The only way anyone could "stand up to OPEC" is to not buy their oil. Good luck with that....

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I kind of think she's hot....but at my age, women of a certain age are hot...

Fair is fair....lots of American women still thought that Bill Clinton was hot too...even after sexual assault allegations.

"...better get some ice on that lip, darling..."

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Fair is fair....lots of American women still thought that Bill Clinton was hot too...even after sexual assault allegations.

"...better get some ice on that lip, darling..."

what sex assault allegations? I thought the allegations were that he was banging an intern, and it was true...

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what sex assault allegations? I thought the allegations were that he was banging an intern, and it was true...

No...as Arkansas governor he got into several sexual harassment pickles (e.g. Jones, Willey, etc.). State troopers would watch the door while he worked his magic! ;)

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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No...as Arkansas governor he got into several sexual harassment pickles (e.g. Jones, Willey, etc.). State troopers would watch the door while he worked his magic! ;)

harassment allegations.... oh. Was he charged and found guilty, or were these people with an agenda ($$$)?

You said assault... the two are quite different.

Posted (edited)

harassment allegations.... oh. Was he charged and found guilty, or were these people with an agenda ($$$)?

You said assault... the two are quite different.

Willey's assault claims were not upheld....Jones prevailed out of and inside court in the long run in the now famous impeachment record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Willey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._Jones

In any event, why is it acceptable for women voters to swoon over Mr. Clinton, but not for males to do the same for Ms. Palin?

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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