Bonam Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Lebanon's national unity government has collapsed after Hezbollah ministers and their allies resigned over a United Nations-backed tribunal investigating the assassination of former prime minister Rafik Hariri. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/12/lebanon-hariri-tribunal-hezbollah.html?ref=rss Proof that Hezbollah cares nothing for the good of Lebanon or its people but is just covering Syria's ass. Edited January 12, 2011 by Bonam Quote
bud Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 hezbolla is just about as bad as their enemy: the truth has no place in their world. the truth is whatever they deem it to be, and should you contradict that truth, you will pay. in the case of their enemy, they brand you antisemitic and your reputation precedes and silences your voice. hezbolla's strategy is simpler: they simply threaten to kill you, and then they do it. the hariri family has paid. father and son. one lost his life for standing up to syria, the other lost his government for standing up to hezbolla. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
M.Dancer Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 hezbolla is just about as bad as their enemy: That's no way to talk about the lebanese... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
dre Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 Seems like most of you guys must agree with Hezzbolah here... after all theyre trying to thwart or ignore a UN investigation, and we know what some of you guys think about the UN and their investigations. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Your terrorist pals have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar...UN or no UN. Edited January 12, 2011 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 Seems like most of you guys must agree with Hezzbolah here... after all theyre trying to thwart or ignore a UN investigation, and we know what some of you guys think about the UN and their investigations. what? israel should never be used in these equations, you antisemite. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 what? israel should never be used in these equations, you antisemite. What's the most you've ever lost in a coin toss? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 What's the most you've ever lost in a coin toss? 2 seconds of my time. what's the most you've lost in accepting and speaking the truth? Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Bonam Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Seems like most of you guys must agree with Hezzbolah here... after all theyre trying to thwart or ignore a UN investigation, and we know what some of you guys think about the UN and their investigations. No, my position is that UN investigations are often flawed and can have little relevance. That means they should be taken with a grain of salt, and the inherent bias taken note of, rather than as absolute truth. Most certainly, they are not worth bringing a government down over. The fact that Hezbollah cares so deeply about this investigation, enough to bring down the government, only shows that they have something to hide, something so obvious and sinister that even the UN won't miss. Edited January 12, 2011 by Bonam Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 12, 2011 Report Posted January 12, 2011 2 seconds of my time. what's the most you've lost in accepting and speaking the truth? You need to call it. I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 What's the most you've ever lost in a coin toss? Settle down,Anton... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Settle down,Anton... Would you actually tell Anton to 'settle down'? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Would you actually tell Anton to 'settle down'? No... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bud Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 No, my position is that UN investigations are often flawed and can have little relevance. That means they should be taken with a grain of salt, and the inherent bias taken note of, rather than as absolute truth. Most certainly, they are not worth bringing a government down over. The fact that Hezbollah cares so deeply about this investigation, enough to bring down the government, only shows that they have something to hide, something so obvious and sinister that even the UN won't miss. Barak is an old hand at this game. During Netanyahu's first tenure as prime minister, Barak used then president Bill Clinton to bring down Netanyahu's government and get himself elected in his place. link stop being so melodramatic bonam. this is not about hezbollah bringing down the government. this is about hezbollah being afraid and refusing to be investigated by the united nations. this is also about you and the rest of the vermin here being a hypocrite and defending israel's refusal to be investigated, while screaming and crying foul when hezbollah does it. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Bonam Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Barak is an old hand at this game. During Netanyahu's first tenure as prime minister, Barak used then president Bill Clinton to bring down Netanyahu's government and get himself elected in his place. link stop being so melodramatic bonam. this is not about hezbollah bringing down the government. Of course that's what it's about. That's what Hezbollah did. Incidentally, that's also the thread title. So yes, that's what this is about. this is about hezbollah being afraid and refusing to be investigated by the united nations. Yes, that's why they brought down the government. this is also about you and the rest of the vermin That's pro debating skills right there. I guess from your standpoint it is fitting to use the term "vermin" in this context? Nazis thought of certain people as vermin too, now those people have their own state, much to your apparent consternation. here being a hypocrite and defending israel's refusal to be investigated, while screaming and crying foul when hezbollah does it. Israel's refusal to be investigated? Many many investigations have been carried out, with the results of most being predictably critical of Israel. You "and the rest of the vermin here" quote these frequently in your attacks on Israel. Edited January 13, 2011 by Bonam Quote
bud Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Of course that's what it's about. That's what Hezbollah did. Incidentally, that's also the thread title. So yes, that's what this is about. it's not a big deal. coalitions pull out and governments fall all the time. such as in the example i gave above. stop being such a drama queen by pretending that it's something out of the ordinary. That's pro debating skills right there. I guess from your standpoint it is fitting to use the term "vermin" in this context? ver·min /ˈvɜrmɪn/ Show Spelled[vur-min] Show IPA –noun, plural ver·min. 1. noxious, objectionable, or disgusting animals collectively, esp. those of small size that appear commonly and are difficult to control, as flies, lice, bedbugs, cockroaches, mice, and rats. 2. an objectionable or obnoxious person, or such persons collectively. reading the official meaning, i'm quite comfortable with the usage and timing of the word. the meaning suits you quite well. Nazis thought of certain people as vermin too, now those people have their own state, much to your apparent consternation. lol. wtf? stfu. speaking of debating skills, can you cut it out with the lame antisemite card? just quit it you melodramatic child. Israel's refusal to be investigated? yes. the same israel that refused to participate and cooperate with the un fact finding mission led by the internationally respected international law expert and the self-hating zionist, richard golstone. the same israel that refused to accept the report and to follow up on its recommendations to allow an internationally led investigation. Many many investigations have been carried out, with the results of most being predictably critical of Israel. You "and the rest of the vermin here" quote these frequently in your attacks on Israel. so what's your point? israel refuses to cooperate with any of them. much like hezbollah refuses to do so here. wow. you're just so done bonam. i think it's time for dogonporch to jump in here with a youtube video of the grand mufti. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Bonam Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 it's not a big deal. coalitions pull out and governments fall all the time. such as in the example i gave above. stop being such a drama queen by pretending that it's something out of the ordinary. Yeah so just because governments sometimes fall means it's not worth mentioning when it happens? You're not making any sense. reading the official meaning, i'm quite comfortable with the usage and timing of the word. the meaning suits you quite well. I'm sure we're all excited to know that you are "comfortable". Got any other enthralling stories? lol. wtf? stfu. speaking of debating skills, can you cut it out with the lame antisemite card? just quit it you melodramatic child. Hey, you're the one that started throwing around terms like vermin. You get what you ask for. yes. the same israel that refused to participate and cooperate with the un fact finding mission led by the internationally respected international law expert and the self-hating zionist, richard golstone. the same israel that refused to accept the report and to follow up on its recommendations to allow an internationally led investigation. Not endorsing UN investigations is a far cry from toppling a government to delay them. so what's your point? israel refuses to cooperate with any of them. much like hezbollah refuses to do so here. Really? Refuses to cooperate with any of them eh? Even you should know how false that is. Israel has cooperated to various extents with many investigations. Heck, it's even carried out its own investigations. wow. you're just so done bonam. Done with what? Debating with you? Yeah, perhaps, not very productive. i think it's time for dogonporch to jump in here with a youtube video of the grand mufti. Doesn't have much to do with Hezbollah bringing down the Lebanese government. But then, you and "the vermin" do like to hijack any middle-east related thread for your anti-Israeli agenda. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Well, it's a thing to watch for indeed. What kind of government will come about with the absence of Hezbollah? Infighting? If another faction steps to the plate, could this mean civil war in Lebanon? This is a very critical time for Lebanon. Let's hope that things turn out for the best. Quote
Bonam Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 Well, it's a thing to watch for indeed. What kind of government will come about with the absence of Hezbollah? Infighting? If another faction steps to the plate, could this mean civil war in Lebanon? This is a very critical time for Lebanon. Let's hope that things turn out for the best. Agreed. Quote
bud Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Seems like most of you guys must agree with Hezzbolah here... after all theyre trying to thwart or ignore a UN investigation, and we know what some of you guys think about the UN and their investigations. this is a valuable comment which bonam has tried to avoid dealing with. but anyway: Hezbollah chief Nasrallah: There won't be a civil war in Lebanon haaretz Quote http://whoprofits.org/
GostHacked Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 this is a valuable comment which bonam has tried to avoid dealing with. The comment does not need to be dealt with. However if Lebanon does get to the point of civil war, that valuable comment will be worthless. However when people talk about this situation, they are not supporters of Hezbollah. By Bonam's posts, he is not pro-hezbollah, not pro terrorism. I am not a supporter of Hezbollah, but this situation is of concern and something to watch. It could fizz out to be nothing, or it can spill over into other countries where the situation can escalate and get out of control very fast. I do think it's making Israel a little nervous. Quote
bud Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I do think it's making Israel a little nervous. why would it? israel counts on instability to weaken parties like hezbollah and hamas. the longer these parties avoid heavy and direct conflict, the stronger they will become. israel wouldn't want that. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bud Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 bonam's reason for posting this thread is not because he cares for the lebanese people. he posted it because he wants to take the opportunity to further defame the enemy of his state. if he cared about the lebanese people, he would not have supported israel's carpet bombing of lebanon a few years ago. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 if he cared about the lebanese people, he would not have supported israel's carpet bombing of lebanon a few years ago. No nation has been carpet bombed in over 40 years. Please make an effort not to lie. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 why would it? israel counts on instability to weaken parties like hezbollah and hamas. the longer these parties avoid heavy and direct conflict, the stronger they will become. israel wouldn't want that. How is the instability of Gaza and West Bank helping defeat Hamas? How will it help Hezbollah? Will the barrier be expanded in order to protect Israel? Neighboring states that are stable and without conflict don't (well not often anyways) go around invading neighboring countries. Quote
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