August1991 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 You just gotta love the United States. I am not even certain that we elect guys like this in Canada. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OtB298fHY&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) Oops! You accidentally put "socialist" in the title. Easy mistake. Edited December 11, 2010 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied Opening Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Oops! You accidentally put "socialist" in the title. Easy mistake. As a member of the Fronde, I'm sure you'll accept Wikipedia/The Guardian as a source: "He is the first person elected to the U.S. Senate to identify as a socialist." Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Oops! You accidentally put "socialist" in the title. Easy mistake. August is exactly right. Sanders is a self admitted socialist. It's no mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Isn't anyone who isn't a tea-party conservative socialist by default? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Isn't anyone who isn't a tea-party conservative socialist by default? Yeah. Apparently taxation is socialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist. He is the first person elected to the U.S. Senate to identify as a socialist.Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) America. The land of the free. --- I swear to God, if America didn't exist, God would have created a country where atheist socialists could be free. Whatta country. Edited December 11, 2010 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 America. The land of the free.--- I swear to God, if America didn't exist, God would have created a country where atheist socialists could be free. Whatta country. God bless the USA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 America. The land of the free. --- I swear to God, if America didn't exist, God would have created a country where atheist socialists could be free. Whatta country. You mean like most of Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachary Young Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 mostly I find it interesting that someone who identifies as such a radical can be elected to the U.S. Senate, although I wonder how often his voting record differs from that of the Democrats with whom he caucuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I swear to God, if America didn't exist, God would have created a country where atheist socialists could be free. If you really believed god exists, you wouldn't swear to him over such a trivial matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyStone Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 The US voters base their decision on multi-million dollar fearmongering marketing campaigns that stake out certain positions, making it nearly impossible for moderates to take a moderate position. Bernie Sanders is a courageous individual who is not afraid to speak the truth. He recognizes that socialist is not necessarily a bad thing. He is not afraid to speak in favour of high taxes when they are needed, and is more than willing to speak up and oppse any politician, be they Republican or Democrat. The fact that he is perpetually re-elected in Vermont, speaks well of the state. If it weren't for the oil, I'd propose a swap of Alberta for Vermont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 You mean like most of Europe? In America, voters send people like Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul to the Congress of a republic under a Constitution that has existed for almost 250 years. No country in Europe can boast such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 In America, voters send people like Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul to the Congress of a republic under a Constitution that has existed for almost 250 years. No country in Europe can boast such. The 250 years or the Rand Paul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Isn't anyone who isn't a tea-party conservative socialist by default? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Doesn't Dennis Kucinich describe himself as a socialist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 A Democratic Socialist is different from a Socialist Btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 In America, voters send people like Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul to the Congress of a republic under a Constitution that has existed for almost 250 years. No country in Europe can boast such. What does that have to do with being allowed to be an atheist socialist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 A Democratic Socialist is different from a Socialist Btw. Sure. The same way a Democratic fascist is different from a fascist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) Sure. The same way a Democratic fascist is different from a fascist. Yah for sure! No wait you made that term up and Democratic Socialist is a very real term which has been around and defined for a long time. Maybe you could look it up instead of applying simpleton arguments to real world situations. PS New Democratics in the States are different from New Democratics in Canada too, even though their names are similar did your pea brain blow up from that idea? Edited December 14, 2010 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Funny how the USA has had "socialist" style programs in place for a very long time... America is already "socialist". THere is no bogey-man called socialism.... it's already there if anyone cares to look. medicare for seniors welfare unemployment insurance gov't retirement pensions gov't funded infrastructure banking regulations gov't regulations to protect workers etc, etc, etc geez... socialism is rampant down there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Democratic Socialist is a very real term Of course it's a real term. A real made up term. Made up by socialists that couldn't get elected if they actually called themselves what they are. So they added the "democratic" part to it. Funny how the USA has had "socialist" style programs in place for a very long time... America is already "socialist". THere is no bogey-man called socialism.... it's already there if anyone cares to look. medicare for seniors welfare unemployment insurance gov't retirement pensions gov't funded infrastructure banking regulations gov't regulations to protect workers etc, etc, etc geez... socialism is rampant down there... Yep, and it's bankrupting the country, as it's doing in many other places. (Btw, unemployment insurance, banking regulations, and worker regulations aren't socialism.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) Of course it's a real term. A real made up term. Made up by socialists that couldn't get elected if they actually called themselves what they are. So they added the "democratic" part to it. Sure in the world of Crazy town where you live this is true. Better load up your gun Shady and go out red hunting I hear their are ruskies in your neck of the woods you better be very scared everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Commie I hear. Seriously though Democratic Socialism has a long history and is very different from Socialism. Just as the progressive Conservatives aren't scary scary left wing progressives Democratic Socialist aren't Socialist. Jesus get out of 1950 grow some brain matter and join the conversation for once. Social democracy is a political ideology of the centre-left on the classic political spectrum. The contemporary social democratic movement seeks to reform capitalism to align it with the ethical ideals of social justice while maintaining the capitalist mode of production, as opposed to creating an alternative socialist economic system. Edited December 14, 2010 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Of course it's a real term. A real made up term. Made up by socialists that couldn't get elected if they actually called themselves what they are. So they added the "democratic" part to it. Are you joking or do you really not know anything? This time I'm honestly confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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