fellowtraveller Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 this is unpossible, Alberta is filled to the brim with rednecks. Quote The government should do something.
bloodyminded Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 But that's just your problem. Let me state this AGAIN (remember in ear and out the other) 15% OF CALGARIANS VOTED THAT THEY WANTED THIS GUY IN OFFICE. There was NOTHING unanimous about this. The 'special interest' that wanted him to succeed showed up to vote. The numbers prove this. Please do not spread falsehoods about 'Calgary' wanting this guy in office. Exactly. We shouldn't sully the good name of Calgarians by suggesting that they'd ever want something as horrific as a Muslim holding office. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 Umm... The majority of Calgarians did NOT elect this guy into office. Neither Ignatieff. This isn't against him per say, but our political system but that's another post for another day. The dude isn't a bad evil guy. No one is saying that. I'm pointing out how easy it is in Canada to shyster your way into power. You're now talking about Harper. And just incidentally, I disagree with this assessment of the PM. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
CANADIEN Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 But that's just your problem. Let me state this AGAIN (remember in ear and out the other) 15% OF CALGARIANS VOTED THAT THEY WANTED THIS GUY IN OFFICE. There was NOTHING unanimous about this. The 'special interest' that wanted him to succeed showed up to vote. The numbers prove this. Please do not spread falsehoods about 'Calgary' wanting this guy in office. No, we will only spread the TRUTH that the man was elected Mayor of Calgary in a democratic election. Now, admit it, if the man's name as Smith you wouldn't get into a frenzy, now would you? Quote
Black Dog Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 But that's just your problem. Let me state this AGAIN (remember in ear and out the other) 15% OF CALGARIANS VOTED THAT THEY WANTED THIS GUY IN OFFICE. There was NOTHING unanimous about this. The 'special interest' that wanted him to succeed showed up to vote. The numbers prove this. Please do not spread falsehoods about 'Calgary' wanting this guy in office. How often are elections unanimous? Basically never. I don't see how this is any different from any other election (including our last two federal votes). The difference in votes between the winner and runner up is only 27,877 people.Total ISLAMIC population in Calgary: 28,920 TOTAL POPULATION IN CALGARY: 1,071,515 --> THE OUTCOME WAS WAS SWAYED BY 27k Votes So every single Muslim man, woman and child voted? Huh, that's some commitment to the democratic process. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 How often are elections unanimous? Basically never. I don't see how this is any different from any other election (including our last two federal votes). Why do I suspect he doesn't feel quite the same way about the CPC government? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
wyly Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 this is unpossible, Alberta is filled to the brim with rednecks. it is unfortunetly...but the majority of calgarians aren't originally albertans... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
fellowtraveller Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 it is unfortunetly...but the majority of calgarians aren't originally albertans... It does not work like that, if you live in Alberta you are automatically a rednecked racist pig. I heard that here. I know you are in Calgary, so you are a redneck too. Are you getting therapy, counselling, dermabrasion treatement? Quote The government should do something.
wyly Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 It does not work like that, if you live in Alberta you are automatically a rednecked racist pig. I heard that here. I know you are in Calgary, so you are a redneck too. Are you getting therapy, counselling, dermabrasion treatement? I'll look into the therapy and maybe get a bigger hat to protect my neck... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
bloodyminded Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 I'll look into the therapy and maybe get a bigger hat to protect my neck... Surely you can find some KKK headgear in that neck of the woods. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
wyly Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 the new mayor has some very good ideas and they're being well received, whether they are fiscally feasible or if he'll get the needed cooperation from the other alderman remains to be seen... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
gutb Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 There seems to be a great deal of celebration over the fact that a large immigrant voting bloc mobilized to defeat the majority of Calgary voters who split their vote between two conservative candidates. Wouldn't that normally be seen in a negative light? Or are we to believe the laughable fiction that a virtual nobody, a typical example of a young university elite with a silver spoon stuck in his mouth without even a small ability to be taken seriously as a public figure, energized a huge and dormant voting block of Calgary liberals to suddenly find a mission and march to the polls to stick it to the conservatives and shatter the imgage of their city? Quote
wyly Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 There seems to be a great deal of celebration over the fact that a large immigrant voting bloc mobilized to defeat the majority of Calgary voters who split their vote between two conservative candidates. Wouldn't that normally be seen in a negative light? Or are we to believe the laughable fiction that a virtual nobody, a typical example of a young university elite with a silver spoon stuck in his mouth without even a small ability to be taken seriously as a public figure, energized a huge and dormant voting block of Calgary liberals to suddenly find a mission and march to the polls to stick it to the conservatives and shatter the imgage of their city? there has been no demographic breakdown of who voted for each candidate, there is nothing to determine immigrants voted in mass for Nenshi...silver spoon in his mouth? the guy comes from a immigrant family living in the undesirable eastside of the city, hardly silver spoon set... and ya the youth were mobilized to vote as they never have before and his campaign targeted that demographic,so it's a safe assumption that Nenshi got the youth vote...based on my personal knowledge of my kids and their friends none who have never voted before, all voted for Nenshi... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
gutb Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 The immigrant vote in 2007, another Muslim by the way, was only 35k. So 105k additional voters for a dopey-looking visibile minority nobody Muslim with no credentials except being a university lifestyle elite and no message that isn't utterly generic going up against candidates with a long history, and much more powerful personalities. I understand the country we live in, and how we shouldn't expect anyone to perform a demographic breakdown of the voters, but let's be perfectly and brutally honest -- if it's not his personality, if it's not his politics, what could possibly energize an additional 105k voters to come out and vote for him? It's simply who he is -- a visible minority and Muslim. I don't discount the youth vote, as the "youth" in Canada's urban centers are just a bunch of ethno-centric cliques of visibile minorities. Would the "youth" in Calgary to the tune of 105k turn out to vote just because someone on Facebook tweeted them to? That's utterly absurd. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 Congratulations to the new mayor of Calgary, who took both his right as a citizen and his duty as a Calgarian seriously and got himself elected by getting the most support of any candidate. Quote The government should do something.
wyly Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) The immigrant vote in 2007, another Muslim by the way, was only 35k. So 105k additional voters for a dopey-looking visibile minority nobody Muslim with no credentials except being a university lifestyle elite and no message that isn't utterly generic going up against candidates with a long history, and much more powerful personalities. I understand the country we live in, and how we shouldn't expect anyone to perform a demographic breakdown of the voters, but let's be perfectly and brutally honest -- if it's not his personality, if it's not his politics, I don't discount the youth vote, as the "youth" in Canada's urban centers are just a bunch of ethno-centric cliques of visibile minorities. Would the "youth" in Calgary to the tune of 105k turn out to vote just because someone on Facebook tweeted them to? That's utterly absurd. you have no idea what your talking about "University lifestyle elite"-from a post by another forum member While Nenshi's recent background is as an academic, he has also worked in the private sector. He spent a number of years with the international business consulting firm McKinsey & Company before forming his own consultancy business."I actually came to academia very late in life," Nenshi told CBC News in the run-up to election day. "I worked in business, in very big business, on large organizational change with Fortune 500 companies, typically on projects that had budgets of $100 million and up, for many years." "candidates with a long history" a teleprompter reader , the only credible opponent was a man with aldermanic experience previous occupation-food wholesaler...Nenshi was the only person that I'm aware of who actually has the educational credentials to do the job...so in your deluded world a food wholesaler is more qualified than someone who is an expert in Public Policy(essentially how to run a non-profit organization like a city)...hey maybe if you ever need surgery you can get a food wholesaler to do it instead of a doctor... what could possibly energize an additional 105k voters to come out and vote for him? It's simply who he is -- a visible minority and Muslim.oh I don't know maybe he was the most qualified...you should pull up your pants, your racism is showing... Edited October 22, 2010 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 Just to correct, news anchors aren't just news readers, and haven't been for a long time. Quote
gutb Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 you have no idea what your talking about "University lifestyle elite"-from a post by another forum member "candidates with a long history" a teleprompter reader , the only credible opponent was a man with aldermanic experience previous occupation-food wholesaler...Nenshi was the only person that I'm aware of who actually has the educational credentials to do the job...so in your deluded world a food wholesaler is more qualified than someone who is an expert in Public Policy(essentially how to run a non-profit organization like a city)...hey maybe if you ever need surgery you can get a food wholesaler to do it instead of a doctor... oh I don't know maybe he was the most qualified...you should pull up your pants, your racism is showing... Nenshi spent 7-8 years in university in which he gravitated to non-profit organization management (ie, taxpayer funds, either directly or via grants from other instituions) and earned a degree in that very field from Harvard, was taken in immediately upon graduation by a company that hires new graduates from prestigious business schools, where he worked with governmental industries (banking, oi, etc) which are the traditional clients of management consulting firms, and then later went on to start his own firm (what white-collars do when they work as contractors) and teach non profit management. In other words, he has about as much credentials to run for Mayor as you or I. His "credentials" are extremely typical of a lifestyle university elite from Canada, and in no way differentiates him from that clique of people. They are, almost literally, a group of people who have formed a sub-culture of entitlment to the public purse, and to a certain lifestyle they are accustomed to. If he is exceptional in any way, it's the fact that he's ended u in the limelight, as his type of elite usually end up in the rear echelons of government management. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 ... where he worked with governmental industries (banking, oi, etc) which are the traditional clients of management consulting firms, and then later went on to start his own firm (what white-collars do when they work as contractors) and teach non profit management. In other words, he has about as much credentials to run for Mayor as you or I. When did banking and oi (oil?) become governmental industries? I can with 100% certainty his credentials are better than mine....and would go to vegas with a bet that they are better than yours. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
guyser Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 Nenshi spent 7-8 years in university ....... and earned a degree in that very field from Harvard, ........ where he worked with governmental industries (banking, oi, etc) which are the traditional clients of management consulting firms, and then later went on to start his own firm (what white-collars do when they work as contractors) and teach non profit management. Looks pretty good to me. In other words, he has about as much credentials to run for Mayor as you or I Shouldve gone for it.....unless you are Catholic....gasp ! . His "credentials" are extremely typical of a lifestyle university elite from Canada, and in no way differentiates him from that clique of people. They are, almost literally, a group of people who have formed a sub-culture of entitlment to the public purse, and to a certain lifestyle they are accustomed to. If he is exceptional in any way, it's the fact that he's ended u in the limelight, as his type of elite usually end up in the rear echelons of government management. Naw.....thats not it. He's Muslim and youre pissed. Hey, trade you Rob Ford and a couple of snowplows for Mr Nenshi. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 Just to correct, news anchors aren't just news readers, and haven't been for a long time. Some are...producers do most of the work, writing the news, writing the lines...setting the story line up, the interviews...someone has to with all the time the talking heads spend in make up. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Smallc Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 I know many news anchors though, have a great deal of input into what goes on the air and how it's presented. Quote
wyly Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 Just to correct, news anchors aren't just news readers, and haven't been for a long time. okay I was just making a point, being a journalist doesn't make her a leading candidate to run a city of a million people either... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 okay I was just making a point, being a journalist doesn't make her a leading candidate to run a city of a million people either... I agree. Quote
wyly Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) Looks pretty good to me. Shouldve gone for it.....unless you are Catholic....gasp ! Naw.....thats not it. He's Muslim and youre pissed. Hey, trade you Rob Ford and a couple of snowplows for Mr Nenshi. 7-8yrs, earned a degree in Public Policy what the hell, since when isn't that a qualification... I guess next time I see my doctor I'll tell she's no more qualified to do her job than Shady... Edited October 22, 2010 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
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