guyser Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 You should read your own link and understand it. I did. That's about cars for use on public roads. Safety certificate etc. Really, so they ban kit cars coming in, but kit cars are not banned if your use is off road? Oh brother. Silly boy. You can have a plane or a submarine on your property. Even one you built yourself Hey thanks. Of course no one was disputing that. You can have chickens too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Oh brother. Silly boy. When you're losing debate try name calling Hey thanks. Of course no one was disputing that. Yes, you did. You said all vehicles must be registered. They don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 When you're losing debate try name calling Thats the third time you've tried this,and frankly it is wearing thin. Yes, you did. You said all vehicles must be registered. They don't. Your post #499, you changed autos and then referred to vehicles, not I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Thats the third time you've tried this,and frankly it is wearing thin. You can stop whenever you please. Your post #499, you changed autos and then referred to vehicles, not I You're free to change back to autos. Since you mention Department of Transport I said vehicles - because that's what they call autos and cars. Are cars OK? It's like the Natives, indians, aboriginals, First Nations....... can you see the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Did You Know? ... that Sûreté du Québéc charged a 16-year-old boy with “careless use of a firearm” for carrying an unloaded BB gun from his house to his friend’s house? It seems that in Quebec it doesn’t matter that BB guns are perfectly legal, and the boy hadn’t broken any laws, real or imagined. Because of the official “guns are bad” position of Quebec, the boy and his family will now face huge court costs to defend themselves against this “noncrime”. Common sense just isn’t that common, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cost-of-long-gun-registry-a-fraction-of-what-tories-claim-report-shows/article1807833/ Not surprising. The government had a independent report on the costs of the gun registry. Report done in 2009, but buried by the government to hide the fact that the Tories were lying about the true cost of the program. But in contrast to the tens of millions of dollars in savings estimated by the Conservative government, the 2009 analysis for the RCMP by Peter Hall of the management consulting firm Pleiad Canada Inc., found that scrapping the long-gun registry would save between $1,570,000 and $4,025,000 a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The government had a independent report on the costs of the gun registry. Report done in 2009, but buried by the government to hide the fact that the Tories were lying about the true cost of the program. The independent report is by Sheila Fraser, Auditor General, who unveiled the long gun registration boondogle for what it is. The main question however still remain: What was accomplished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 The independent report is by Sheila Fraser, Auditor General, who unveiled the long gun registration boondogle for what it is. The main question however still remain: What was accomplished? It created a wonderful wedge issue around a political facade. So now that it's been established that a gun registry does nothing whatsoever to control guns can we now finally get on with doing something that does? Besides the number of potential Marc Lepines that still exist in Canada over the next 15 years or so we'll be faced with nearly a million people who will be stricken with dementia. Guns need to be locked up in secure public armouries, it's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 It created a wonderful wedge issue around a political facade. So now that it's been established that a gun registry does nothing whatsoever to control guns can we now finally get on with doing something that does? Yes, like Harper and Minister Toews said, clamp down on criminals. No more revolving door and repeat offenders. Besides the number of potential Marc Lepines that still exist in Canada over the next 15 years or so we'll be faced with nearly a million people who will be stricken with dementia. You mean they won't remember where they have their gun? How many people with dementia robbed bank or joined Jamaican Possies??? What is your estimate on number of potential Denis Lorties?? Should we disarm our military and police? Guns need to be locked up in secure public armouries, it's that simple. So why the police doesn't lock up the guns criminals use? We are waiting. I'm sure you didn't mean guns of hunters, indians and Olympic competitors. Or did you? And how would you lock them unless you know where they are, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 You mean they won't remember where they have their gun? We can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 We can hope. Problem is most of the time they manage to find knives as the stats show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Problem is most of the time they manage to find knives as the stats show. The stats also show Canada is sleep walking towards a future where dementia is no more on the radar than the issue that galvanized the call gun control. Do you think it's unreasonable to ask that sane people pay the price for the actions of the insane? As for knives, we don't usually leave them out where kids can get at them. It's probably a good idea to keep them out of the reach of demented people too. Is it safe to assume this will also cause you to crap your pants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) The stats also show Canada is sleep walking towards a future where dementia is no more on the radar than the issue that galvanized the call gun control. Let's SEE the stats dementia has ANYTHING to do with gun control. Do you think it's unreasonable to ask that sane people pay the price for the actions of the insane? Yes, I do. I call it victims paying for the comfort of lazy criminals. As for knives, we don't usually leave them out where kids can get at them. Got trigger lock on your kitchen? What has Homicide Rate Stats to do with kids???? Edited November 26, 2010 by Saipan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Let's SEE the stats dementia has ANYTHING to do with gun control. http://www.alzheimer.ca/english/disease/stats-intro.htm What this implies for a nation in which some 5 million guns are stored in people's homes should be obvious, as for what can happen when someone who is out of their mind has a gun, recall Marc Lepine and the reason gun control became an issue in the first place. It was an act of insanity that steered public attitudes towards gun control not crime. It's unfortunate enough that it didn't galvanize public attention towards mental illness but it's downright tragic and shameful that it became an issue about crime control. Yes, I do. I call it victims paying for the comfort of lazy criminals. No doubt many Canadians share your notion that people who lose their minds are not medically sick they're just lazy criminals, their mental illness is their own fault, they have a moral failure that needs to be punished not a disease that needs to be treated. Here's a bit of information that might help you change those attitudes. Good luck. http://www.parl.gc.ca/39/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/soci-e/rep-e/rep02may06-e.htm What has Homicide Rate Stats to do with kids???? I was referring to knives not Homicide Rate Stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) http://www.alzheimer.ca/english/disease/stats-intro.htm What this implies for a nation in which some 5 million guns are stored in people's homes should be obvious 1) No it's not. Where is your evidence?? 2) Btw, it's lot more than 5 million firearms. WAY more. Possibly 5 times more. 3) In Switzerland for example all military issue rifles are stored at home with government issued ammo. Is that a problem? as for what can happen when someone who is out of their mind has a gun, recall Marc Lepine Or Denis Lortie. Should we disarm our army? Far more people are killed by wrong medical prescription. And most kids by far are killed by cars. How come car registration didn't prevent that? tragic and shameful that it became an issue about crime control. CPC government is changing that and it WILL be an issue of CRIMINAL CONTROL. Because "gun control" - registration - does nothing. I was referring to knives not Homicide Rate Stats. You said: "As for knives, we don't usually leave them out where kids can get at them." Kids are not allowed into kitchen? And what that has to with Homicide Rate which is refered to under "gun control". Either it is or it isn't. Why are knives much more often used in homicide? Edited November 27, 2010 by Saipan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 3) In Switzerland for example all military issue rifles are stored at home with government issued ammo. Is that a problem? Only if they dont have their permit.And at the end of service, they have to turn it out where it is amended from full auto.Yupo, no gun control in Switzerland 2) Btw, it's lot more than 5 million firearms. WAY more. Possibly 5 times more. sure, like 25 million guns Have a link? Eh no....you wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Only if they dont have their permit. And at the end of service All Swiss men are considered IN service. The POINT is they have military government issue arms at HOME beside all their OWN firearms, as shooting competition is Swiss national sport. According your theory all should be dead shooting each other sure, like 25 million guns Have a link? Eh no....you wont. Where's your link to 5 million? Ratio of handguns to long guns here is 1:20. Now find out yourself how many handguns are registered by calling 1-800-731-4000 registration centre - OR take my word for 1.2 million. You do the rest of the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 All Swiss men are considered IN service. No they arent , how moronic Where's your link to 5 million? Ratio of handguns to long guns here is 1:20. Now find out yourself how many handguns are registered by calling 1-800-731-4000 registration centre - OR take my word for 1.2 million. You do the rest of the math. What link? I never mentioned 5M, you did , and then said 5 times that. Too funny! Got any other knee slappers mdIII ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 No they arent , how moronic What link? I never mentioned 5M, you did , and then said 5 times that. Too funny! Got any other knee slappers mdIII ? Never join debate you don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Never join debate you don't understand. Fair enough mdIII. However, in most debates involving you it seems as though you are a dollar short and in the wrong store. Show me what I dont understand if you are confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Show me what I dont understand if you are confident. Everything that has to do with firearms and registration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Everything that has to do with firearms and registration. As suspected, Not a thing to to rebut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 As suspected, Not a thing to to rebut. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Liberals still confused. http://www.nfa.ca/node/223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) Liberals still confused. http://www.nfa.ca/node/223 Confused, methinks the NFA is.... the Liberal Party of Canada announced a renewed attack on the rights of responsible firearm owners across Canada What rights?....too funny. Edited December 10, 2010 by guyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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