Ottawa: Terrorist Group Arrested

[jacee]

This year will mark my 30 th year in the military, over those years i've been to alot of the worlds war zones, been exposed to dozens if not hundrds of cultures,at thier worst and best... a while i may of not liked all the individuals i've met, i can't fathom holding the entire culture or race in disdane because of a few individuals i've meet, or seen, or thier querky habits..

And yes while i may have had no alternative at the time, i don't think you can nail it down to culture being resposable for my actions, but rather circumstances...I'm sure that the wealthy Indians do not wipe with skin , but some form of wipes, therefore that in itself blows a hole in your theory, and you can't pin it on culture or race, but rather circumstance be it lack of cash, availablity of product, the whole gambit...

Another example within the military itself there are dozens of races, some new to our country most born here over the generations, and while they are visually different, they have picked up many of of cultures traits, for instance they do wipe with paper, watch hockey, football, thier parenting skills are very similar, and they share the same values as i do, and yes they have kept some of their old culutre traditions alive, nothing that really does not conform with ours...in fact many are very welcomed within our culture, such as their traditional foods, i mean really pizza, chinese, Italian, now as much part of our culture as it is theirs...

like i somewhat touched above , your theory is flawed. A prime example would be African Americans born here in Canada, have generations of family that have lived here in Canada , and yet they share most of the same culture as i do, and yet the only difference between us is race...That and the fact is they've been forced to justify somehow that they are Canadian, and because i'm white i've never had to do that justify anything...

I Guess my piont is ....When you decide to serve this Nation you must be prepared to serve all of it's races and cultures that reside within it. you must also be prepare to serve along side all the races and cultures without conflict or second guessing yourself. After all you are trusting your very life and existance to the soldier next to you, as he is expecting the same from you...and if race comes into the situation, you'll have problems...major problems...the kind that will get you killed...

You must also prepare yourself to serve and protect other races and cultures in other nations without bias or conflict such as our current mission to Afghan....

Absolutely AWESOME POST, Army Guy!

This should be framed and given to every Canadian.

What a great example of uniting Canadians in common purpose.

Do you want to run for government?

We could use more leaders like you who understand the bigger picture!

Thanks for making my day. Have a good one yourself.

[Canuckistani]

You mean how the military was involved in the Vancouver Olympics? We ave to use everything at our disposal to make sure that people are safe, otherwise how can we explain to the families that we fail to prevent an attack, we just decided that it was not important to use all the tools at our disposal to stop it. The military is a tool to be used by the government to protect the citizens, and I don't think that AA weapons count as policing...unless you live in an area where the police regularly has to shoot down aircraft.

A good example of how to do something right is the Israeli system of airline security. Much less intrusive and very effective. We in the west like to go with the big showy stuff and prevent yesterday's attacks. Obviously nothing we do can stop all suiciders or just cleaver terrorists, but the Olympics should probably hire Israeli advisors on how to do the most with the least.

Edited July 13, 2012 by Canuckistani

[Signals.Cpl]

A good example of how to do something right is the Israeli system of airline security. Much less intrusive and very effective. We in the west like to go with the big showy stuff and prevent yesterday's attacks. Obviously nothing we do can stop all suiciders or just cleaver terrorists, but the Olympics should probably hire Israeli advisors on how to do the most with the least.

I believe that the British Security Forces are more than capable of securing the olympics.

[GostHacked]

You mean how the military was involved in the Vancouver Olympics? We ave to use everything at our disposal to make sure that people are safe, otherwise how can we explain to the families that we fail to prevent an attack, we just decided that it was not important to use all the tools at our disposal to stop it. The military is a tool to be used by the government to protect the citizens, and I don't think that AA weapons count as policing...unless you live in an area where the police regularly has to shoot down aircraft.

More efforts on making the luge track safer would have saved more lives at the Vancouver Olympics than all the security that was in place.

And well you are questioning the reasoning for AA batteries on apartment buildings. Seems overkill. This is blanket cover security and not targeted security.

And again, none of this will stop an attack if someone really wants to carry out one. I get being safe, but I am not willing to give up freedom for security. If everyone is free, everyone will be secure.

You can expect to see remote drones in the skies as well. And I would put money on it that they are armed as well.

Edited July 14, 2012 by GostHacked

[Signals.Cpl]

More efforts on making the luge track safer would have saved more lives at the Vancouver Olympics than all the security that was in place.

You are making an assumption that nothing would have happened if there was more lax security in the Vancouver Olympics, the track had nothing to do with the actual security.

And well you are questioning the reasoning for AA batteries on apartment buildings. Seems overkill. This is blanket cover security and not targeted security.

I think that there is sufficient threat in Britain to warrant any and all security measures in order to prevent attacks, explaining to millions of people that you let an attack through because you didn't want to overdo the security.

And again, none of this will stop an attack if someone really wants to carry out one.

And nothing I do will stop a very determined kidnapper from taking my kids if he wants to carry out a kidnaping, but that doesn't mean I will not do anything and everything in my power to protect them

I get being safe, but I am not willing to give up freedom for security.

What freedoms are being taken away?

If everyone is free, everyone will be secure.

I'm sure that extremists will look at it the same way... they are free so we should leave them alone.

You can expect to see remote drones in the skies as well.

I have no problem with drones considering the security needs in London.

And I would put money on it that they are armed as well.

I highly doubt that, only an idiot would arm drones in a densely populated environment like London where a missile hit is not exactly the most convenient method of law enforcement.

[Rue]

My solution is to have smart and reasonable security, not blanket security ...

That about summarizes the absurdity in your position. If you can't see why I am not surprised.

Your solution? Now you are a sercurity expert and you know what "smart and reasonable" security is as opposed

to blanket security. Right.

Well go on security expert, explain. Do explain. Can't wait to find out what "smaart and reasonable" security is.

Lol I love these arm chair geniuses.

Smart and reasonable. Right. Let's hire some of those airport security personnel that frisk my pee pee. They

are smart and reasonable. They always smile when my pee pee beeps.

[GoodGrief]

har..yes multi culturalism is horrible...all these German refugee goosesteppers who haven't a clue about fashion and think they can hugo boss everyone around...

I just literally laughed out loud

[GostHacked]

That about summarizes the absurdity in your position. If you can't see why I am not surprised.

Your solution? Now you are a sercurity expert and you know what "smart and reasonable" security is as opposed to blanket security. Right.

Does not take much of a genius to know the difference and see the difference, unless you are a complete blind idiot.

Well, as you know after 9/11 there was blanket security put in. I shall give you examples. One huge one is the TSA. More agents in airports, complete invasive pat downs, body scanners, and now testing your drinks you buy IN the airport for whatever. You will also find TSA moving to train stations, buses and public transport. You will also find them at sporting events at large stadiums. What we see with the TSA is that for a few that got through and rammed planes into buildings, you now frisk every single person going through the airports everywhere in the USA. Invasive enough that you take off your shoes when you get to the airport in the USA. Also, old men and women in wheelchairs getting a full pat down. Children getting full pat downs. I've seen Americans at the Vancouver international airport taking off their shoes without question. The conditioning is working . So the blanket security is also reaching much further than just the continental USA.

And even with blanket security, it's still never going to be 100% secure. It's just a huge ass waste of taxpayer money to implement this kind of security on the same people who are paying for it all.

Well go on security expert, explain. Do explain. Can't wait to find out what "smart and reasonable" security is.

Smart security would actually target the groups more likely to commit certain attacks. The Israeli government employes some smart security in terms of profiling specific security checks, engaging passengers to determine the threat level. Regardless of my 'love' for Israel on the whole, this is the smart way to implement security.

Lol I love these arm chair geniuses.

You are considered one yourself.

Smart and reasonable. Right. Let's hire some of those airport security personnel that frisk my pee pee. They

are smart and reasonable. They always smile when my pee pee beeps.

Since you are being quite smarmy about this, you don't even realize that them grabbing your peepee is one of the so called line items in the 'blanket security' category.

You are quite welcome.

[dre]

I think that there is sufficient threat in Britain to warrant any and all security measures in order to prevent attacks, explaining to millions of people that you let an attack through because you didn't want to overdo the security.

"Any" and "All"?

Are you joking?

[Signals.Cpl]

"Any" and "All"?

Are you joking?

1) How did you manage to take my quote and put Army Guy's name on it?

2) Yes, any and all means at the disposal of the authorities to prevent mass murder. What is the point of having all this weapons and equipment as well as thousands of trained soldiers if we would rather let the bad guys kill our people while our resources are not used.