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[Sir Bandelot]

Dude...there are 300,000,000 Americans....how many of them do you think give a rat's ass about such matters or would take the time to pursue this MLW engagement? Most Americans dont' care, don't know, and don't care that they don't know.

Excellent... so you are not representative of the vast majority of Americans. That's comforting to know

[Michael Hardner]

Why is it "understandable"? Mexico does not have this problem...neither do the Bahamas. Cuba does but for a different reason.

Firstly, I think it's likely that US culture dominates these places too, but I don't have enough knowledge of those countries to say for sure. In fact, the only country I can likely comment on with confidence is the US itself. I do know a lot about that place.

Furthermore, Canada and the US were both part of British North America, so we share a heritage. That indeed makes us American junior.

Make no mistake....an American will not likely invoke any attribute of Canada in defining his/her identity. Arrogant and confident of such things from beginning to end, an American will indeed invoke "freedom" and "liberty". The USA began by rejecting your (historical Canadian) assessment of the importance of such things.

Far from making that mistake, I think I said this above.

[bush_cheney2004]

Excellent... so you are not representative of the vast majority of Americans. That's comforting to know

...and never represented myself as such (see above). Yet you are quite comfortable telling me how stupid or ignorant they are. In the end, I am not a Canadian....and you are not an American....and that's OK.

[Sir Bandelot]

Yet you are quite comfortable telling me how stupid or ignorant they are.

If I ever did, I take it all back now

[bush_cheney2004]

Firstly, I think it's likely that US culture dominates these places too, but I don't have enough knowledge of those countries to say for sure. In fact, the only country I can likely comment on with confidence is the US itself. I do know a lot about that place.

No kidding..."Surprise....surprise...surprise". I bet you can even cite the source of that quote from American media that is over 40 years old..

Furthermore, Canada and the US were both part of British North America, so we share a heritage. That indeed makes us American junior.

Bullshit...by definition, the USA was never part of BNA. Canada is surely in North America, but it is also the USA's closest and oldest enemy.

[bush_cheney2004]

If I ever did, I take it all back now

No need to take anything back....this is a place for frank discussion, no?

[Michael Hardner]

No kidding..."Surprise....surprise...surprise". I bet you can even cite the source of that quote from American media that is over 40 years old..

Which quote ?

Bullshit...by definition, the USA was never part of BNA. Canada is surely in North America, but it is also the USA's closest and oldest enemy.

Please. You're the 13 colonies plus 37... Basically the same place, only a little more disloyal than before.

[bush_cheney2004]

Which quote ?

"Surprise..."

Please. You're the 13 colonies plus 37... Basically the same place, only a little more disloyal than before.

Not even close...read the paperwork. No Queen either.....

[Michael Hardner]

"Surprise..."

I don't know the quote.

Not even close...read the paperwork. No Queen either.....

She's waiting for you, should you need her services again. Looks better on the money than Washington.

BTW, when I hang out with Americans (very often) I explain to them that I know as much or more about their country than they do. They never believe me but I usually prove them right.

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't know the quote.

Then you don't know as much as you think you do.

BTW, when I hang out with Americans (very often) I explain to them that I know as much or more about their country than they do. They never believe me but I usually prove them right.

I have just proven you wrong (see above).

[Michael Hardner]

Then you don't know as much as you think you do.

Ok, I concede. Will you be gracious now and provide the source of the quote and educate me ?

I have just proven you wrong (see above).

To say I don't know as much as I think I do, that may be proven, but to say that I don't know as much as my American buddies... you really have no choice but to believe me on that one.

And... these assertions aren't about me as much as they are about living next to a cultural beacon that is close (geographically, democratically, demographically, historically and otherwise) and 10X the size. So, although you're right to knock down my hubris on my knowledge of the US, the point here is still that our culture is washed out by yours.

And so it's not surprising that you encounter cultural confusion and resentment from Canadians is it ?

Can you relate to being marginalized at all ?

[waldo]

Yet you cannot champion your AGW cause without such American "enlightenment". There is ample evidence of your dependence on those "stupid" Americans with every post.

strawman time, hey? The sure sign of the vanquished!

Not a strawman at all....it is the American experience that you do not know, anymore than I would know the equivalent Canadian experience. Accept your inherent limitation.

no - I've lived in, worked in and traveled extensively throughout the U.S. on both personal and business purpose... years and years on end of travel. I've worked with and continue to work with Americans - on a daily basis. I have several relatives and friends scattered throughout the US. Mine is an observation born out of personal experience intertwined with the influences of your media.

That's what they all say...."America sucks"...but I work there on a daily basis. "My Uncle Joe is an American"....big frickin' deal...you ain't!

is your position/argument shallow enough to require your "stoopid America" strawman? Your fragile ego is only matched by your complete lack of self-confidence... clearly you have difficulty with "foreigners", particularly Canadians, criticizing your country - on any level. You've even taken it to the extreme where simply drawing support reference to an American organization/institution is an affront to your frail psyche.

and yes, as stated, your personal insecurity has you holding firmly to your misconception that the U.S. is hugely important to the Canadian psyche. It's not - get over it!

Can you go a week without any reference to Americans or their institutions of government and business? I think not. That MLW has a dedicated forum just for "US Politics" and cannot contain the spill-over to nearly every other area is proof enough of that. Some members here are still fighting the decision to invade Iraq! LOL!

are you so lacking in self-confidence that you continually need your ego stroked by anonymous MLW posters fawning over your incessant need to reinforce your country's significance upon them? Again... your personal insecurity has you holding firmly to your misconception that the U.S. is hugely important to the Canadian psyche. It's not - get over it!

I knew you could not go for one hour....let alone one week. The USA is not hugely important to the Canadian psyche...just yours.

just mine? Clearly, your same preoccupation with the many other MLW posters (many who have simply thrown you to the IGNORE function) seems less selective... than, "just yours". Yes, you truly are a parody of yourself! Your fragile ego and lack of self-confidence serves your anonymity well on a relatively smallish, obscure discussion board - Salute!

[Michael Hardner]

Bush_Cheney

Ok. I just got it with the help of Google... it's Gomer Pyle. Fine, I did watch this while I was a kid but... that's a tricky one... I would have got it with an audio clip.

I failed your test, but it was a tough one and - there isn't even an equivalent Canadian quote that I could test you with, or that I would have a hope of getting myself, i.e. a mid-60s Canadian sitcom with a catchphrase that a typical Canadian could hope to remember.

Edited May 10, 2010 by Michael Hardner

[Sir Bandelot]

Ok. I just got it with the help of Google... it's Gomer Pyle. Fine, I did watch this while I was a kid but... that's a tricky one... I would have got it with an audio clip.

I thought maybe it was "I love lucy", or something.

You know where the Cuban guy is always talking about Club Babaloo. Oh I guess I must be obssessed with Cubans now!

[Sir Bandelot]

Clearly, your same preoccupation with the many other MLW posters (many who have simply thrown you to the IGNORE function) seems less selective... than, "just yours". Yes, you truly are a parody of yourself!

Interesting point. I wonder how many of us here regularly go to participate on American political discussion forums? Not that there should be anything wrong with it, but that poll would be rather telling, if we are as obssessed over America as B_C thinks.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ok, I concede. Will you be gracious now and provide the source of the quote and educate me ?

America already has...by giving you the Internet and Google. You're welcoms.

To say I don't know as much as I think I do, that may be proven, but to say that I don't know as much as my American buddies... you really have no choice but to believe me on that one.

The only kind of American "buddies" I know of have to do with an old truckers joke.

And... these assertions aren't about me as much as they are about living next to a cultural beacon that is close (geographically, democratically, demographically, historically and otherwise) and 10X the size. So, although you're right to knock down my hubris on my knowledge of the US, the point here is still that our culture is washed out by yours.

"Washed out" implies a certain level of impotence, but is not justification for assumed assimilation. America is not the Borg...yet.

And so it's not surprising that you encounter cultural confusion and resentment from Canadians is it ?

It is very surprising...Canada is not the 51st state. Be sovereign...not servile.

Can you relate to being marginalized at all ?

Obviously not....do you feel marginalized in the shadow of a hegemon? Can't your Queen help or offer any balance to the equation?

[bush_cheney2004]

is your position/argument shallow enough to require your "stoopid America" strawman? Your fragile ego is only matched by your complete lack of self-confidence... clearly you have difficulty with "foreigners", particularly Canadians, criticizing your country - on any level. You've even taken it to the extreme where simply drawing support reference to an American organization/institution is an affront to your frail psyche.

But that's the funniest part....your complete and utter dependence on "stoopid" America and her institutions to form a basis for argument, particulary when it comes to the AGW bogeyman. How can America be the land of Neanderthals and your fountain of technical expertise?

just mine? Clearly, your same preoccupation with the many other MLW posters (many who have simply thrown you to the IGNORE function) seems less selective... than, "just yours". Yes, you truly are a parody of yourself! Your fragile ego and lack of self-confidence serves your anonymity well on a relatively smallish, obscure discussion board - Salute!

Either way, I'm having a great time rubbing your nose in it. Some members get it, others don't. How dare an arrogant American point out the obvious! LOL!

[bush_cheney2004]

Ok. I just got it with the help of Google... it's Gomer Pyle. Fine, I did watch this while I was a kid but... that's a tricky one... I would have got it with an audio clip.

Think about what you have just typed...not only did you seek and find the reference at my prodding, but you express glee at the way in which you did so with yet another tool of the hegemon.

I failed your test, but it was a tough one and - there isn't even an equivalent Canadian quote that I could test you with, or that I would have a hope of getting myself, i.e. a mid-60s Canadian sitcom with a catchphrase that a typical Canadian could hope to remember.

It wasn't so much a test as a stark line in the sand for those who assume they know America just because Uncle Louie lives in Yonkers, NY. That Gomer Pyle USMC reference is very common and well known....in America.

It would be equally presumptuous (and silly) of me to brag about my knowledge of Canada.

[bush_cheney2004]

Interesting point. I wonder how many of us here regularly go to participate on American political discussion forums? Not that there should be anything wrong with it, but that poll would be rather telling, if we are as obssessed over America as B_C thinks.

Not hard to figure that out based on a MLW sample, from wanting to select or vote for the next US president to extending American "crime/race" data to domestic purpose when no such data exist for Canada. The dearth of available references beyond a very skimpy StatsCan leads them to the Promised Land, using Google or Bing! LOL!

[M.Dancer]

Golly, I can't find it...

What was the Gomer Pyle USMC quote?

[bush_cheney2004]

Golly, I can't find it...

What was the Gomer Pyle USMC quote?

Pyle quotes:

http://www.wavsource.com/tv/gomer_pyle.htm

[Michael Hardner]

It would be equally presumptuous (and silly) of me to brag about my knowledge of Canada.

Right... so it seems that we agree.

The only thing you're not convinced on is that I know America as well as my American friends do. I invite you to associate freely with me on my next US trip to prove me wrong.

Edited May 10, 2010 by Michael Hardner

[bush_cheney2004]

...The only thing you're not convinced on is that I know America as well as my American friends do. I invite you to associate freely with me on my next US trip to prove me wrong.

Far more significant than the veracity of your claim is the energy expended to make it in the first place. Why is this significant...that you be so knowledeable about America? To be America "junior"?

[waldo]

is your position/argument shallow enough to require your "stoopid America" strawman? Your fragile ego is only matched by your complete lack of self-confidence... clearly you have difficulty with "foreigners", particularly Canadians, criticizing your country - on any level. You've even taken it to the extreme where simply drawing support reference to an American organization/institution is an affront to your frail psyche.

But that's the funniest part....your complete and utter dependence on "stoopid" America and her institutions to form a basis for argument, particulary when it comes to the AGW bogeyman. How can America be the land of Neanderthals and your fountain of technical expertise?

again, your need to invoke your boogeyman 'stoopid America' strawman is quite telling.

just mine? Clearly, your same preoccupation with the many other MLW posters (many who have simply thrown you to the IGNORE function) seems less selective... than, "just yours". Yes, you truly are a parody of yourself! Your fragile ego and lack of self-confidence serves your anonymity well on a relatively smallish, obscure discussion board - Salute!

Either way, I'm having a great time rubbing your nose in it. Some members get it, others don't. How dare an arrogant American point out the obvious! LOL!

of course you're having a great time - you simply don't get that you've actually become the parody of yourself. Your self-proclaimed enlightened sarcasm - isn't enlightening and it isn't sarcasm. Your most juvenile act belies your personal inadequacies... it's the single reason for your Saskatchewan outing. No self-respecting MLW member could actually believe a self-described "arrogant Ugly American", would live out his day-to-day existence fawning for adulation from any sycophant willing to give him the time of day. You also fail to recognize the obvious great sport you present... after all, where other than on MLW could we daily observe your ass being kicked, big time!

[bush_cheney2004]

again, your need to invoke your boogeyman 'stoopid America' strawman is quite telling.

Stoopid Americans....stoopid voters....stoopid leaders....stoopid policies. But holy shit Batman, waldo loves their stoopid data and institutions when it comes to AGW.

of course you're having a great time - you simply don't get that you've actually become the parody of yourself. Your self-proclaimed enlightened sarcasm - isn't enlightening and it isn't sarcasm. Your most juvenile act belies your personal inadequacies... it's the single reason for your Saskatchewan outing.

But I am not from Saskatchewan...you got sucked into Bubber's schtick. If it is juvenile to note every time that you fart yankee doodle dandy, it is certainly worth it.

No self-respecting MLW member could actually believe a self-described "arrogant Ugly American", would live out his day-to-day existence fawning for adulation from any sycophant willing to give him the time of day. You also fail to recognize the obvious great sport you present... after all, where other than on MLW could we daily observe your ass being kicked, big time!

Says the member with an actual dedicated MLW poll and votes by members making you the laughing stock.