maplesyrup Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Posted June 12, 2004 Ipsos-Reid polling results compared for May 31, June 4, and June 11, 2004. British Columbia Party/May 31/Jun 4/Jun 11 Cons: 39%, 31%, down 8%, 33%, up 2% (net down 6%) New Dem: 14%, 23% up 9%, 27%, up 4% (net up 13%) Libs: 34%, 32%, down 2%, 27%, down 5% (net down 7%) Grn: 13%, 10%, down 3% Oth: 14%: ?? Now are the New Democrats going to do well in BC or what, eh? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
August1991 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Now are the New Democrats going to do well in BC or what, eh? The NDP are going to get a stunning 4 to 6 seats in BC, a 100% increase over the 2 seats they won in 2000. G&M BC Seat Analysis MS, are you on drugs? Quote
maplesyrup Posted June 13, 2004 Author Report Posted June 13, 2004 MS, are you on drugs? August1991.........so far you have managed reasonably well to not get into personal attacks or insults. Let's keep it that way, eh? British Columbia Party/May 31/Jun 4/Jun 11 Cons: 39%, 31%, down 8%, 33%, up 2% (net down 6%) New Dem: 14%, 23% up 9%, 27%, up 4% (net up 13%) Libs: 34%, 32%, down 2%, 27%, down 5% (net down 7%) Grn: 13%, 10%, down 3% Oth: 14%: ?? In the last week alone the New Democrats picked up 4%, double what the Cons did. Probably the New Democrats and the Cons will be tied in voter support in BC, a week from now, if they are not already. I sure like this trend. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Posted June 17, 2004 British Columbia Company Date----------CO LI ND GR OT UN SES CPAC 17/06/2004 35 27 25 10 ?? 16 Ipsos-Reid 11/06/2004 33 27 27 10 14 ?? Leger Marketing 09/06/2004 31 31 26 ?? 12 00 SES CPAC 08/06/2004 37 31 26 05 ?? 21 Ipsos-Reid 04/06/2004 31 32 23 13 ?? ?? Leger Marketing 02/06/2004 32 29 28 09 01 ?? SES CPAC 01/06/2004 29 34 29 08 ?? 19 Ipsos-Reid 31/05/2004 39 34 14 ?? ?? ?? EKOS 28/05/2004 37 29 30 ?? ?? ?? Environics 26/05/2004 34 27 36 ?? ?? ?? Ipsos-Reid 22/05/2004 31 28 20 14 ?? ?? Is anyone aware of more recent regional poll results for BC? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
caesar Posted June 17, 2004 Report Posted June 17, 2004 Well things do get confusing here in BC. We don't vote the same way provincially and federally. We have a Liberal provincial government but they are as right winged and similar to the Federal Conservatives. Most people do not like the Federal Liberals for much of their failings; we did appreciate Chretien keeping us out of the Iraq mess. I don't completely trust Martin I don't know one person who wants Harper; everyone say the same thing; he is scary. I imagine some will confuse our Liberals with the federal liberals and vote against the Liberals. The NDP are a little too left; nice ideas but we can not afford the costs at least Federally; Provincially they are our only real choice. Seems us middle income people get caught in the middle. Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Posted June 17, 2004 Well things do get confusing here in BC. We don't vote the same way provincially and federally. We have a Liberal provincial government but they are as right winged and similar to the Federal Conservatives.Most people do not like the Federal Liberals for much of their failings; we did appreciate Chretien keeping us out of the Iraq mess. I don't completely trust Martin I don't know one person who wants Harper; everyone say the same thing; he is scary. I imagine some will confuse our Liberals with the federal liberals and vote against the Liberals. The NDP are a little too left; nice ideas but we can not afford the costs at least Federally; Provincially they are our only real choice. Seems us middle income people get caught in the middle. well I am from B.C and I want harper, so now you do Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
Stoker Posted June 17, 2004 Report Posted June 17, 2004 I don't know one person who wants Harper; everyone say the same thing; he is scary.I imagine some will confuse our Liberals with the federal liberals and vote against the Liberals. The NDP are a little too left; nice ideas but we can not afford the costs at least Federally; Provincially they are our only real choice. Seems us middle income people get caught in the middle. So if people from BC (which I'm one) think the Right is "scary", why is it that the majority of BC ridings are Conservative? Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
BQSupporter Posted June 17, 2004 Report Posted June 17, 2004 I don't know one person who wants Harper; everyone say the same thing; he is scary. Honey there are alot more people that live in B.C then those you have talked to. Quote
willy Posted June 17, 2004 Report Posted June 17, 2004 I too am from BC and will vote Conservative. Harper is a bright young family guy with the right stuff. You might want to note that the BC Liberals still poll in the high 30s. Even if they have upset some people they will still clean up in an election. Gotta love first past the post. To all the NDP lovers the Green Party will take away your new seats in BC this election. Go Jim Harris Go. Quote
maplesyrup Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Posted June 17, 2004 British Columbia Company Date----------CO LI ND GR OT UN SES CPAC 17/06/2004 35 27 25 10 ?? 16 Ipsos-Reid 11/06/2004 33 27 27 10 14 ?? Leger Marketing 09/06/2004 31 31 26 ?? 12 00 SES CPAC 08/06/2004 37 31 26 05 ?? 21 Ipsos-Reid 04/06/2004 31 32 23 13 ?? ?? Leger Marketing 02/06/2004 32 29 28 09 01 ?? SES CPAC 01/06/2004 29 34 29 08 ?? 19 Ipsos-Reid 31/05/2004 39 34 14 ?? ?? ?? EKOS 28/05/2004 37 29 30 ?? ?? ?? Environics 26/05/2004 34 27 36 ?? ?? ?? Ipsos-Reid 22/05/2004 31 28 20 14 ?? ?? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
Sully Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 I am from BC and I am voting conservative. I think some people watch VILand Voices with Moe Sihota (and I mean lets face it, a majority of the people watching that program have to be pro-NDP to follow old Moe the NDPer) and see all the NDP comments and how left leaning people skew the polls on that show. I love watching it because Norman Spector always reminds Moe of his history and how his editorials need to be revised with logic and reason. Most the people I know are not voting NDP. Quote
Alliance Fanatic Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 BC will probably vote 50% conservative, before election's it seems that BC is always on the left, but on election night it is a whole different ball game. Yeah the New Democrats did great during their years of power, last time I remember the BC Liberal's were very supportive of Paul Martin. Plus Gordon Campell is not Ralph Klein, or Mike Harris. The thing I liked about Harris was that he did everything he said he was going to do in his party platform. But then again the left still believes that he was the worst thing to hit that province since the New Democrats. Quote "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" - George Orwell's Animal Farm
Slavik44 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 here is some Info to back up AF's claims that B.C polls are normally off agaisnt the conservatives. Canadian alliance polling: Leger 45% Ipsos Reid 48% Ekos 44% Environics 46% Compas 43% -------------------- Average 45% Actual: 49.4% Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
caesar Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 The conservatives that are now Federal mps are not the same as these Harper fanatics. Oh, I do know BC does have a lot of dummies; We did elect Gordon Campbell. Many only know how to vote out a party; they do not take the time to really get to know what the new party has in its agenda. Sorry, I associate with more knowledgeable and intelligent people. Lawyers, bankers, stock market people. I have not the least doubt that BC will once again be ruled by the NDP come next election. Campbell, too, would love to join in destroying our health care. If it doesn't have anything to do with the Olympics; it doesn't get funded adequately. My son has already had to pay for one medical procedure ; now he will be paying for an MRI rather than wait another 6 to 8 months for a diagnosis of torn cartilage in his knee. He just finished waiting about 3 months to see the orthopedic surgeon. Quote
Stoker Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 The conservatives that are now Federal mps are not the same as these Harper fanatics. Of all the current Conservative MPs in BC, how many were CA vs PC............Yeah not a single "Harper fanatic".......there is more to BC then Granville and Robson Oh, I do know BC does have a lot of dummies; We did elect Gordon Campbell. Many only know how to vote out a party; they do not take the time to really get to know what the new party has in its agenda. Sorry, I associate with more knowledgeable and intelligent people. Lawyers, bankers, stock market people.I have not the least doubt that BC will once again be ruled by the NDP come next election. Would it be fair to say that BC has alot of Dummies because we have voted in NDP governments? I'm not a fan of the Libs, and I'd prefer a "stronger" provincal Conservative party, but I'll vote Green or Social Credit before I bloody well vote for the NDP....... Let me remind you also, that those "Lawyers, bankers, and stock market people" are not the vast majority of British Columbians...and let me also remind you, that the Conservatives don't have the same snobbish views of the "common folk" as you Limosine Left wingers do.....so you can go shove your "knowledgeable and intelligent " views up your arse......... Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
Alliance Fanatic Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 Booyah, great point Stoker. I've noticed that alot of these left winger types tend to earn more than 70,000 a year, and tend to be university educated and look down on those "pitiful" unenlightened common folk. Quote "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" - George Orwell's Animal Farm
Stoker Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 Of course they do, thats why the feel the need to "take care" of us from the cradle to the bloody grave........ I also find it strange how the NDP claims to look after the "little guy", but most of these "snobbish views" come from them......... Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
noelandmero Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 I've noticed that alot of these left winger types tend to earn more than 70,000 a year, and tend to be university educated and look down on those "pitiful" unenlightened common folk. Hey now hey now. I have several university degrees and I certainly don't look down on anybody and would never vote left wing. Of course they do, thats why the feel the need to "take care" of us from the cradle to the bloody grave........ I certainly do not advocate this as I do not want a dime of my money going to taking care of you not to be mean but it's mine and I want it. You are a responsible adult look after yourself. I think you might actually find alot of left wing support in groups of university educated who earn under 70 000 as they have to feel supperior in some way as when it came to the real world of buissnes they sadly failed. Quote
Stoker Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 noelandmero, don't get me wrong (and I think I can speak for AF) in saying that I don't fault rich/well off people, I say all the power to them, I wish I was one, I just don't like being talked down to by somebody that clamis to "look out for the little guy". Quote The beaver, which has come to represent Canada as the eagle does the United States and the lion Britain, is a flat-tailed, slow-witted, toothy rodent known to bite off it's own testicles or to stand under its own falling trees. -June Callwood-
noelandmero Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 Stoker I understand that completly as as they talk down to me as well and then call me greedy. Quote
Sully Posted June 18, 2004 Report Posted June 18, 2004 Hail caesar, go vote for the NDP if that will cure what ails you. You are bitter and voting with emotion, too bad that won't lead to a wise decision. Oh, I do know BC does have a lot of dummies; We did elect Gordon Campbell. Many only know how to vote out a party; they do not take the time to really get to know what the new party has in its agenda. Sorry, I associate with more knowledgeable and intelligent people. Lawyers, bankers, stock market people. Wow you know these kind of people? But the question is do they know you? I am having a hard time understanding how you can say that you "associate" with these people just by standing with your ball cap out collecting change from them as they walk by. Does that really mean you "associate" with them? You are a brilliant man, please keep up with the brilliant posts!!!! Quote
maplesyrup Posted June 20, 2004 Author Report Posted June 20, 2004 British Columbia Company Date----------CO LI ND GR OT UN EKOS 19/06/2004 36 32 29 03 Ipsos-Reid 18/06/2004 31 28 18 07 SES CPAC 17/06/2004 35 27 25 10 ?? 16 Ipsos-Reid 11/06/2004 33 27 27 10 14 ?? Leger Marketing 09/06/2004 31 31 26 ?? 12 00 SES CPAC 08/06/2004 37 31 26 05 ?? 21 Ipsos-Reid 04/06/2004 31 32 23 13 ?? ?? Leger Marketing 02/06/2004 32 29 28 09 01 ?? SES CPAC 01/06/2004 29 34 29 08 ?? 19 Ipsos-Reid 31/05/2004 39 34 14 ?? ?? ?? EKOS 28/05/2004 37 29 30 ?? ?? ?? Environics 26/05/2004 34 27 36 ?? ?? ?? Ipsos-Reid 22/05/2004 31 28 20 14 ?? ?? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted June 21, 2004 Author Report Posted June 21, 2004 British Columbia Company Date----------CO LI ND GR OT UN Mustel Group 21/06/2004 36 26 28 07 03 EKOS 19/06/2004 36 32 29 03 Ipsos-Reid 18/06/2004 31 28 18 07 SES CPAC 17/06/2004 35 27 25 10 ?? 16 Ipsos-Reid 11/06/2004 33 27 27 10 14 ?? Leger Marketing 09/06/2004 31 31 26 ?? 12 00 SES CPAC 08/06/2004 37 31 26 05 ?? 21 Ipsos-Reid 04/06/2004 31 32 23 13 ?? ?? Leger Marketing 02/06/2004 32 29 28 09 01 ?? SES CPAC 01/06/2004 29 34 29 08 ?? 19 Ipsos-Reid 31/05/2004 39 34 14 ?? ?? ?? EKOS 28/05/2004 37 29 30 ?? ?? ?? Environics 26/05/2004 34 27 36 ?? ?? ?? Ipsos-Reid 22/05/2004 31 28 20 14 ?? ?? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted June 24, 2004 Author Report Posted June 24, 2004 British Columbia Company Date----------CO LI ND GR OT UN Environics 23/06/2004 34 31 31 Mustel Group 21/06/2004 36 26 28 07 03 EKOS 19/06/2004 36 32 29 03 Ipsos-Reid 18/06/2004 31 28 18 07 SES CPAC 17/06/2004 35 27 25 10 ?? 16 Ipsos-Reid 11/06/2004 33 27 27 10 14 ?? Leger Marketing 09/06/2004 31 31 26 ?? 12 00 SES CPAC 08/06/2004 37 31 26 05 ?? 21 Ipsos-Reid 04/06/2004 31 32 23 13 ?? ?? Leger Marketing 02/06/2004 32 29 28 09 01 ?? SES CPAC 01/06/2004 29 34 29 08 ?? 19 Ipsos-Reid 31/05/2004 39 34 14 ?? ?? ?? EKOS 28/05/2004 37 29 30 ?? ?? ?? Environics 26/05/2004 34 27 36 ?? ?? ?? Ipsos-Reid 22/05/2004 31 28 20 14 ?? ?? (493) Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted June 24, 2004 Author Report Posted June 24, 2004 British Columbia stands out as the region where the survey results show the most dramatic change in comparison with the 2000 election. Conservative support is 22 points lower and NDP support is 20 points higher than in 2000. I guess we can put those ridiculous rumours that the Conservatives were going to sweep BC to rest now, once and for all, eh? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
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