charter.rights Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 "In new research bound to irk conservative geniuses, people with high IQs are deemed more likely to be liberal, monogamous non-believers than those who are less intelligent." Liberal atheists are smarter: study. Those with high IQ also less likely to cheat. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Alta4ever Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 "In new research bound to irk conservative geniuses, people with high IQs are deemed more likely to be liberal, monogamous non-believers than those who are less intelligent." Liberal atheists are smarter: study. Those with high IQ also less likely to cheat. Similarly, young adults who called themselves "very liberal" had an average IQ of 106 during adolescence, while those who identified themselves as "very conservative" had average IQs of 95. Something doesn't smell right since when is a high IQ 106? I was test at 19 scored 134 and was told that I was above just above average. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 Good old google thought I would try to find the actual scoring chart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_reference_chart Apparently 84 - 116 is Normal or average intelligence. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
msj Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 I think the writer was missing the "er" at the end of "high." A small error that us atheistic liberal types, who aren't cheating on our spouses, picked up on and didn't feel the need to comment about. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msdogfood Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 "In new research bound to irk conservative geniuses, people with high IQs are deemed more likely to be liberal, monogamous non-believers than those who are less intelligent." Liberal atheists are smarter: study. Those with high IQ also less likely to cheat. interesting!! Quote
Bonam Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) I saw an article reporting on the same study while ago. The data seems sound, but I would dispute the conclusions and inferences. As often happens in these kinds of very opinionated studies, cause can be mistaken for effect. They say that people that have higher IQ (are more intelligent) are more likely to be liberals. Well, what if it is the other way around? People with higher IQ are more likely to pursue a higher education in college/university, and these institutions are notoriously known to be bastions of left wing thought and ideology. So of many of the smart people that go to these institutions, they get exposed to left wing ideas, and just "fit in with" those around them and accept the ideology. Oh and average IQ is 100, it is defined that way, with 100 being the mean of a normal distribution. Edited March 2, 2010 by Bonam Quote
scribblet Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 Not surprising coming from that London School of Economics Did this Kanazawa person study anyone outside of the U.S., did he study anyone from say India or Saudi Arabia where practically all of the people are not atheist or even liberal. His study is skewed and wishful thinking. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Shwa Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 I saw an article reporting on the same study while ago. The data seems sound, but I would dispute the conclusions and inferences. As often happens in these kinds of very opinionated studies, cause can be mistaken for effect. They say that people that have higher IQ (are more intelligent) are more likely to be liberals. Well, what if it is the other way around? People with higher IQ are more likely to pursue a higher education in college/university, and these institutions are notoriously known to be bastions of left wing thought and ideology. So of many of the smart people that go to these institutions, they get exposed to left wing ideas, and just "fit in with" those around them and accept the ideology. Oh and average IQ is 100, it is defined that way, with 100 being the mean of a normal distribution. And it also depends on one's definition of what is liberal and what is conservative, left wing/right wing. There are plenty of threads here about that and what those terms mean in Canada, which is different from the States, etc. I think most people here on this forum are 'liberals' even though they wouldn't dream of voting for the "Liberal" party. Quote
Topaz Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 Question, can a person with a high IQ have poor common sense? I think having very good common sense would get you further than an IQ. Most IQers are smart in one area and poor in the rest. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Question, can a person with a high IQ have poor common sense? I think having very good common sense would get you further than an IQ. Most IQers are smart in one area and poor in the rest. I think voting for the Conservative Party of Canada would be a good indicator of stupidity. Only a rube would fall for stories like "we had to prorogue to recalibtrate for the next budget", when it is painfully obvious to anyone with a working brain that they did it to escape questioning on Afghanistan. Edited March 2, 2010 by DrGreenthumb Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 And out come the geniuses with the superiour intellect of 106 Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
DrGreenthumb Posted March 2, 2010 Report Posted March 2, 2010 And out come the geniuses with the superiour intellect of 106 And the rubes who believe the government's BS Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Posted March 3, 2010 And out come the geniuses with the superiour intellect of 106 And then again....if the Liberals are more intelligent that puts conservatives in the dullness range.....Hey spot on IMO! Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
kimmy Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 And then again....if the Liberals are more intelligent that puts conservatives in the dullness range.....Hey spot on IMO! The study claims self-identified "liberals" are smarter, not "the Liberals". -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) The study claims self-identified "liberals" are smarter, not "the Liberals". -k There you have it! A blond conservative......IQ <84 = dullness, comedy and spatial awareness deficiency all wrapped in one neat package. You take the cake Kimmy! Mr. Canada and you would make the perfect date for each other. Edited March 3, 2010 by charter.rights Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
blueblood Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 The study claims self-identified "liberals" are smarter, not "the Liberals". -k Is this the same as one of those, "just because I have a university education, that means I am smarter than you" type deals? apparently more university educated people vote Liberal, therefore Conservative voters are automatically stupid because apparently a university education is a prerequisite for intelligence. I don't think CEO's of corporations who probably vote for a conservative party (rep./con) are stupid. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Guest TrueMetis Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 There you have it! A blond conservative......IQ <84 = dullness, comedy and spatial awareness deficiency all wrapped in one neat package. You take the cake Kimmy! Mr. Canada and you would make the perfect date for each other. This is why no one takes you seriously. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Posted March 3, 2010 This is why no one takes you seriously. You are too serious. Kimmy set it up. I made the take-down. All is far in politics and discussion forums. Where's your funny bone. In your nose? Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
kimmy Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 There you have it! A blond conservative......IQ <84 = dullness, comedy and spatial awareness deficiency all wrapped in one neat package. You take the cake Kimmy! Mr. Canada and you would make the perfect date for each other. I'm not a conservative at all. I'm a liberal by any reasonable definition of the word liberal. You probably don't understand the definitions of either conservative or liberal. In all the years I've been on the internet, you're among the biggest morons I've ever encountered. You're such a loser that I would feel pity for you, if I didn't hold you in such contempt. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Posted March 3, 2010 I'm not a conservative at all. I'm a liberal by any reasonable definition of the word liberal. You probably don't understand the definitions of either conservative or liberal. In all the years I've been on the internet, you're among the biggest morons I've ever encountered. You're such a loser that I would feel pity for you, if I didn't hold you in such contempt. -k Is that all you have, Blondie? Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
DrGreenthumb Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 kimmy is not stupid, certainly not in the same stupid-leaugue as Mr Canada. In fact I find kimmy to be one of the most tolerable right leaning posters on this site. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Posted March 3, 2010 kimmy is not stupid, certainly not in the same stupid-leaugue as Mr Canada. In fact I find kimmy to be one of the most tolerable right leaning posters on this site. I agree. But that does not make her correct. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
msj Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Is that all you have, Blondie? As an atheistic liberal who does not cheat on my wife, I would like to distance my self from this idiot who seems to think that running an entire thread as an ad hominem attack counts as rubbing two brain cells together. Well it doesn't and you ain't. Edited March 3, 2010 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Thomas Kwon Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) . Edited August 22, 2010 by Thomas Kwon Quote
msj Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) TK, you have convinced me with your overwhelming evidence! I am going to start cheating on my wife, will take up religion, and will convert to conservativism. I think I just gained 10 IQ points just by suggesting this. Edited March 14, 2010 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
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