bush_cheney2004 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 ...Much of what you complain about gets better over time. It will never disappear, and that's why you're unhappy really. Moreover, doomsayers like this bemoan the loss of what existed in the past to explain our downfall, even though it was far worse then. They simply lack coping skills and are paralyzed with fear. Scared bunnies..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 Moreover, doomsayers like this bemoan the loss of what existed in the past to explain our downfall, even though it was far worse then. They simply lack coping skills and are paralyzed with fear. Scared bunnies..... The sons are never quite as tough as their founding corporate fathers. Men in America who made their fortunes being tough guys with a never ending supply of coping tools have the misfortune of having inheritors that are simply not clones of them..that's why I get a kick out of the great fun nature and genetics play on the rich and powerful..Look at George W Bushes father and grandfather..tough bright guys..who assumed that George W would be a clone to carry on their traditions and buisness...Little did they know that George would inherit the demeanor and brains of his old aunt Martha the valium addicted cat lady who talked to God when she got drunk. Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 Moreover, doomsayers like this bemoan the loss of what existed in the past to explain our downfall, even though it was far worse then. They simply lack coping skills and are paralyzed with fear. Scared bunnies..... Our downfall is we or at least many of us can't see passed the lies. The lies have become truth to many. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. -Joseph Goebbels What is getting better? we now have HDTV's instead of black and white? The problems that plagued society in the passed are still here. We still have poverty and we still go to war. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 What does it make better and for who? Yes, these problems can be solved, what makes you say they can't. 1. For everyone. 2. When you solve problem #1, #2 gets a promotion. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 What is getting better? we now have HDTV's instead of black and white? We're feeding many times more than were fed before for one. The problems that plagued society in the passed are still here. We still have poverty and we still go to war. Again, you want to have a world where there is no crime, complete equality, no poverty and no conflict ? I guess you do, which is why your lament wears thin after the first 85 posts or so. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 Our downfall is we or at least many of us can't see passed the lies. The lies have become truth to many. Yea...I know...it's all explained in The Matrix. If you can't handle "lies", then you sure as hell can't handle the "truth". The problems that plagued society in the passed are still here. We still have poverty and we still go to war. ...and we always will....deal with it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 We're feeding many times more than were fed before for one. Research by charity Save the Children found that between 2004 and 2008, an additional 260,000 children were pushed into severe poverty in the UK, which the charity defines as living on less than £12,220 per year for a couple with one child. This represented a proportional increase from 11 per cent to 13 per cent of all children, the report said.http://www.regen.net/news/ByDiscipline/Community-Renewal/979783/Severe-child-poverty-on-rise/ U.S. poverty is on the rise in a somewhat unlikely place -- the suburbs, areas people stereotypically associate with backyards, white-picket fences and the American Dream, according to a report recently released by the Brookings Institution.According to the report, from 2000 to 2008, the number of poor increased by 25 percent in the suburbs, almost five times more than poverty rates in cities. As a result, there are now 1.5 million more poor people living in the suburbs than in "primary" cities. Read the full report -- "The Suburbanization of Poverty: Trends in Metropolitan America, 2000 to 2008" http://gapersblock.com/mechanics/2010/01/25/poverty-rates-spiking-in-chicago-suburbs/ We are not solving the issue of poverty, what creates poverty. We could feed everyone on this planet if we chose to. There is no reason we can't. Again, you want to have a world where there is no crime, complete equality, no poverty and no conflict ?I guess you do, which is why your lament wears thin after the first 85 posts or so. What creates crime, what creates poverty, we can solve these problems, we just need to understand what creates these problems. It is the system is that causes these problems. ...and we always will....deal with it. Why must it continue? for what purpose? Who benefits from this. Don't any of you still know how to feel, do you know what love is? Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 We are not solving the issue of poverty, what creates poverty. We could feed everyone on this planet if we chose to. There is no reason we can't. Relative poverty is what you're talking about. Absolute poverty is being solved every day. Don't any of you still know how to feel, do you know what love is? It's something real, that you have to work for. You are a dreamer, my friend. You do have love, but it is love for your own ideas. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Guest TrueMetis Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 We are not solving the issue of poverty, what creates poverty. We could feed everyone on this planet if we chose to. There is no reason we can't. If you want to pony up the cash to feed all the starving people go for it. What creates crime, what creates poverty, we can solve these problems, we just need to understand what creates these problems. It is the system is that causes these problems. We have been doing our best to solve poverty and crime but if you think these numbers will ever go to zero then you are nuts. Why must it continue? for what purpose? Who benefits from this.Don't any of you still know how to feel, do you know what love is? Appealing to emotion is a really bad argument. People using emotion to prove a point or get something done either never get it done or never get anything good done. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 If you want to pony up the cash to feed all the starving people go for it. We have been doing our best to solve poverty and crime but if you think these numbers will ever go to zero then you are nuts. Appealing to emotion is a really bad argument. People using emotion to prove a point or get something done either never get it done or never get anything good done. Poverty will continue to exist as long as people want to be rich. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 Poverty will continue to exist as long as people want to be rich. Ya, so forever. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted January 26, 2010 Report Posted January 26, 2010 Research by charity Save the Children found that between 2004 and 2008, an additional 260,000 children were pushed into severe poverty in the UK I don't believe a word that 'charities' like this say about what gets them their gravy. It reeks of self-interest. Quote The government should do something.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 If you want to pony up the cash to feed all the starving people go for it. Money shouldn't matter, our priorities are so messed up, we care more about paper then we do about helping people. We have been doing our best to solve poverty and crime but if you think these numbers will ever go to zero then you are nuts. No, we haven't. They can go away completely but that would mean drastic changes to our current system. These problems are a result of how the current system is structured, it is flawed and we need a new one, something closer to the heart. . How does making drugs illegal lower crime, it creates crime. Gangs and terrorist groups are funded by it, need I say more? As for poverty if we were trying to solve it, we wouldn't be kicking people out of their homes. I saw on BNN about a week or two ago, it said "expecting record defaults in 2010". Why are we kicking people out of their homes, what are we trying to prove. They don't have enough paper so they aren't entitled to a home, great system. Appealing to emotion is a really bad argument. People using emotion to prove a point or get something done either never get it done or never get anything good done. What are you talking about, fear is why we are fighting a war and putting scanners in airports, fear is an emotion. That voice in our head, that's what makes us who we are, not this mask we call our bodies. Emotion always defines policy. We just got to stop living in fear and start living in love. It's something real, that you have to work for. You are a dreamer, my friend. You do have love, but it is love for your own idea Love isn't something you have to work for, you just have to love. Love resonates in the right side of the brain, fear in the left we are a left brained society Don't be afraid to let your heart ignite. "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us and the world will live as one" - John Lennon Dream is destiny. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 "You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us and the world will live as one" - John Lennon You mean we can join John and Yoko in his Rolls-Royce Phantom V.....paid for with nasty paper money? Sweet! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 You mean we can join John and Yoko in his Rolls-Royce Phantom V.....paid for with nasty paper money? Sweet! No actually Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 No actually "Happiness (is a warm gun) Bang Bang Shoot Shoot Happiness (is a warm gun, momma) Bang Bang Shoot Shoot" - John Lennon Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 "Happiness (is a warm gun) Bang Bang Shoot Shoot Happiness (is a warm gun, momma) Bang Bang Shoot Shoot" - John Lennon First off I'm not saying John Lennon was all perfect. and it depends on how you interpret the lyrics, some say it was a metaphor for doing heroin, some say it was him expressing his sexual feelings to Yoko. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 First off I'm not saying John Lennon was all perfect. and it depends on how you interpret the lyrics, some say it was a metaphor for doing heroin, some say it was him expressing his sexual feelings to Yoko. ...and some say it was homage to a big frickin' handgun. "God created man...Sam Colt made them equal". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 ...and some say it was homage to a big frickin' handgun. "God created man...Sam Colt made them equal". Hey, there is a reason you guys have the right to bear arms in your country, it's for protection from tyranny in government. If you want to stop gangs from using guns, legalize drugs. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 ...If you want to stop gangs from using guns, legalize drugs. Drugs are legal...just get a prescription like everyone else. Gangs will always use weapons, including guns. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 Drugs are legal...just get a prescription like everyone else. Gangs will always use weapons, including guns. Gangs only turn to violence because their deputes can't be solved through the courts. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 Gangs only turn to violence because their deputes can't be solved through the courts. Sure....they should settle disputes using "rock, scissors, paper" contests. Good grief..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
antipolitico Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 I found this article, I would like all your opinion on it and ask one question, is this Harper HIDDEN agenda? http://www.infowars.com/prime-minister-harper-officially-endorses-north-american-union/ Unfortunately Alex Jones, undoes a lot of his good investigative work, by reacting and publishing a lot of material for which no due diligence has been conducted. Alex Jones and infowars.com often approach information that comes their way by trying to reinterpret it within the context of their own views and opinions. I do not believe they do this deliberately, but rather like a parent might somewhat biased about their own child. The article that appeared has numerous and obvious holes in it and does not offer much in the way of substance. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 Love isn't something you have to work for, you just have to love. This answers a lot of riddles for me. I would have said that too, in my 20s, before marriage and before my career too. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
maple_leafs182 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 Sure....they should settle disputes using "rock, scissors, paper" contests. Good grief..... Seriously, they can't go to the courts because they will go to jail, how else do you expect them to solve disputes? They are just mimicking society, we solve our disputes by wars, what is the difference. This answers a lot of riddles for me. I would have said that too, in my 20s, before marriage and before my career too. If you don't love your career and your marriage, why do you continue with both. Love is the only thing worth living for, otherwise we are just surviving. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
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