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[Martin Chriton]

You mean getting a smart Canadian who taught at Harvard? At least it's better than having a man who had to drop out of U of T and run to Alberta because it wasn't ideologically to his liking. That situation kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it?

In the end, if Iggy called himself American is neither here nor there. He has neither argued for Republicanism or tried to destroy the institutions which at least Canadians hold so dear.

He was a proud American under Bush no less.

Anyways, this isn't the reason why I don't think Iggy would make a good PM. I've lived in the US for some years now and have nothing against Americans. I just find it humorous to point out the hypocrisy to those that who get scared w/ some American adviser and yet support someone else for PM that claimed he was American.

It's all the more sweet coming years after being told Harper's values were too American and not "Canadian values" by folks like Paul Martin. The Liberal's need to get over there ignorant fears of the USA. (Not that I see this happening anytime soon.)

[bush_cheney2004]

Ahahah well considering conservatives want to take society back to the 50s, I'd say liberals have a lot easier time making that argument.

Hey, competition is good, but the Grits don't even have a game plan, let alone a jock to win the game.

PM Harper is beating them with the same play!

[nicky10013]

He was a proud American under Bush no less.

Anyways, this isn't the reason why I don't think Iggy would make a good PM. I've lived in the US for some years now and have nothing against Americans. I just find it humorous to point out the hypocrisy to those that who get scared w/ some American adviser and yet support someone else for PM that claimed he was American.

It's all the more sweet coming years after being told Harper's values were too American and not "Canadian values" by folks like Paul Martin. The Liberal's need to get over there ignorant fears of the USA. (Not that I see this happening anytime soon.)

I don't think they're ignorant fears. I think Liberals here just like parliamentary democracy. Theoretically I think it's a lot more efficient than republicanism and I like to see governments that are able to respond quickly to problems. Look at how slow things are moving down south. I'm not afraid of general American ideas, I just don't think the system there works as well as it does here and a LOT of people I know feel the exact same way.

In the end, Canadian values are similar yet not so similar. I have quite a few relatives from the states and they claim we're all the same and they're close. However, the fact is Canada is a lot more politically and socially Liberal in the states. Americans and Canadians have values that are sometimes in line but are sometimes quite different. With Haper, he's closer to American Conservatism which is far different than the old PC mantra. It causes more partisanship simply because it's just that different. Stockwell Day was a new earth creationist. It's hard not to make comparisons to the radical right in the states. Saying that he and other christian conservative members of the old reform alliance caucus are closer to the radical christian right in the US wouldn't be wrong.

As for hypocrisy, yeah I understand.

[nicky10013]

Hey, competition is good, but the Grits don't even have a game plan, let alone a jock to win the game.

PM Harper is beating them with the same play!

Oh I agree, I've been saying for a while now that they need to bring a red book and quick. Now is a perfect time to release a platform. Harper has just suspended parliament and if you show up on the 25th, the real first day of parliament with a vision of Canada backed up by substantive policies and suddenly there's an alternative to the Harper government. Alas, someone thought it was a good idea to push back the policy conference until March. Sigh.

[William Ashley]

Personally I don't see an issue with Harper hiring an American, I don't agree with barriers to employment. It is unfortunate that the right to work in the other country is still barred by protectionism to allow less qualified and less able individuals, or less desired individuals from an employers perspective to be qued for employment when someone more capable and more desired isn't able to work for them due to red tape and backwardness.

Work visas are BS, and it is only the professionals via NAFTA that are seeing leniency with these things. All people deserve visaless capacity to work for someone who would like them to work for them.

In regard to this person - so what? A lot of Canadians work for Americans and vice versa, what is with all the hate for Americans? True their government has taken immoral and inhumane actions, and their policies and actions can often be ignorant of general human welfare, but I've met a lot of Americans who are nice people, much like Canadians. There are good and bad people of all nationalities.

Why shouldn't people be able to hire who they would like to?

Protectionism is a great evil in the world.

While I think sovereignty is something not to be compramised, you can maintain sovereignty without compramising open communication, essential human rights, and free choice over national barriers.

Edited January 8, 2010 by William Ashley

[Michael Hardner]

sarcasm doesn't translate well on these forums.

<sarcasm>Oh, on the contrary, it comes across so well on the forums</sarcasm>

Edited January 8, 2010 by Michael Hardner

[nicky10013]

Personally I don't see an issue with Harper hiring an American, I don't agree with barriers to employment. It is unfortunate that the right to work in the other country is still barred by protectionism to allow less qualified and less able individuals, or less desired individuals from an employers perspective to be qued for employment when someone more capable and more desired isn't able to work for them due to red tape and backwardness.

Work visas are BS, and it is only the professionals via NAFTA that are seeing leniency with these things. All people deserve visaless capacity to work for someone who would like them to work for them.

In regard to this person - so what? A lot of Canadians work for Americans and vice versa, what is with all the hate for Americans? True their government has taken immoral and inhumane actions, and their policies and actions can often be ignorant of general human welfare, but I've met a lot of Americans who are nice people, much like Canadians. There are good and bad people of all nationalities.

Why shouldn't people be able to hire who they would like to?

Protectionism is a great evil in the world.

While I think sovereignty is something not to be compramised, you can maintain sovereignty without compramising open communication, essential human rights, and free choice over national barriers.

I agree with this. However, what I don't agree with is the politics of the guy they hired. That and I have a problem with his credibility. I think when you're in politics, those are probably pretty good reasons for not hiring someone.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Harper or Iggy or even Layton can hire who they please. On the other hand, it says something about the people that hired them though.

[nicky10013]

Harper or Iggy or even Layton can hire who they please. On the other hand, it says something about the people that hired them though.

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