Topaz Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Ari Fleischer, a Bush advisor, was hired last year by the PMO to help Harper get exposure to the US before the G20 summit. He was also hired again for his advise. A lot of things are starting to make sense now, all this harmonizing with the US. Mulroney sold out on the free trade and this Conservative is selling out what our country? Reforming the senate and proroguing so Canada will have more of a "harmonized" government to the US's. I could be wrong but can we trust this guy? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100106/national/harper_us_pr_3 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Ari Fleischer, a Bush advisor, was hired last year by the PMO to help Harper get exposure to the US before the G20 summit. He was also hired again for his advise. A lot of things are starting to make sense now, all this harmonizing with the US. Fleischer is the right man for such a job....very professional. Has worked for NFL teams too. Still, most Americans don't have a clue who PM Harper is, and don't care that they don't know. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Fleischer is the right man for such a job....very professional. Has worked for NFL teams too. Still, most Americans don't have a clue who PM Harper is, and don't care that they don't know. Give me James Carville or Paul Begala over Fleischer anyday. I can't stand Fleischer. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 This one is trotted out from time to time... so-and-so hired Americans ! It's a big yawner, especially these days when they play hockey in Phoenix and Las Vegas, and NASCAR races on Montreal Island. We're one big country already, with some cute regional features, such as French, Spanish, mountains, or healthcare. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Martin Chriton Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Ari Fleischer, a Bush advisor, was hired last year by the PMO to help Harper get exposure to the US before the G20 summit. He was also hired again for his advise. A lot of things are starting to make sense now, all this harmonizing with the US. Mulroney sold out on the free trade and this Conservative is selling out what our country? Reforming the senate and proroguing so Canada will have more of a "harmonized" government to the US's. I could be wrong but can we trust this guy? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100106/national/harper_us_pr_3 I'm with you. Anyone that's from or has lived in the US is not to be trusted. I sleep soundly at night knowing that my beloved Liberals would never associate themselves with those types. The key problem is that they are loyal to only the US and would never give good advice. Like this guy for example @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ Edited January 8, 2010 by Martin Chriton Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 I'm with you. Anyone that's from or has lived in the US is not to be trusted. I sleep soundly at night knowing that my beloved Liberals would never associate themselves with those types. The key problems with using these types is that they are loyal to only the US and would never give good advice. Like this guy for example @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ So what is your opinion knowing that an American delivered the Key note speech at the 2006 Liberal Party Leadership convention? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 So what is your opinion knowing that an American delivered the Key note speech at the 2006 Liberal Party Leadership convention? He was being sarcastic you knob. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) So what is your opinion knowing that an American delivered the Key note speech at the 2006 Liberal Party Leadership convention? Lies. Liberals would not do such a thing. (BTW - follow my YouTube link) Edited January 8, 2010 by Martin Chriton Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Deleting duplicate post. Edited January 8, 2010 by Martin Chriton Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 He was being sarcastic you knob. sarcasm doesn't translate well on these forums. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 I'm with you. Anyone that's from or has lived in the US is not to be trusted. I sleep soundly at night knowing that my beloved Liberals would never associate themselves with those types. The key problem is that they are loyal to only the US and would never give good advice. Like this guy for example @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ It's not about the people being American. Conservatives, Liberals, hell even NDPers I'm sure bring in Americans to work on Campaigns just as Canadians go down and work on US campaigns. I registered absentee voters for Obama in Toronto. What the problem is this guy was a Bush loving idiot. Having the PM suck up to members of the Bush administration says quite a lot. A) it says that they're stupid considering how popular the Bush administration was. The damage they've done to the republican party is going to take years to repair, yet he contracts out some guy who was THEIR SPOKESPERSON TO RAISE AWARENESS! B- Bringing in a republican policy wonk shows where these neo-cons truly sit on the political spectrum. Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 sarcasm doesn't translate well on these forums. If you couldn't pick up those hints after all your party has thrown out there, I just don't know what to say. Even as a partisan you're not doing a good job. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 It's not about the people being American. Conservatives, Liberals, hell even NDPers I'm sure bring in Americans to work on Campaigns just as Canadians go down and work on US campaigns. I registered absentee voters for Obama in Toronto. What the problem is this guy was a Bush loving idiot. Having the PM suck up to members of the Bush administration says quite a lot. A) it says that they're stupid considering how popular the Bush administration was. The damage they've done to the republican party is going to take years to repair, yet he contracts out some guy who was THEIR SPOKESPERSON TO RAISE AWARENESS! B- Bringing in a republican policy wonk shows where these neo-cons truly sit on the political spectrum. I find it much more concerning that we would consider electing a guy that said he was an American a few years back than having Harper hire an American to be an adviser to him about America. If anything what Harper did is common sense. What the Liberals are doing here is just scary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 I find it much more concerning that we would consider electing a guy that said he was an American a few years back than having Harper hire an American to be an adviser to him about America. If anything what Harper did is common sense. What the Liberals are doing here is just scary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ Could you bold American any more times? It's almost as though you're trying to scare people. Personally, I find it disheartening that people could support a man who has needed to run away from parliament twice. Elect a guy based on his policies. If it's Harper, so be it. However, he's turned to the public for budget consultations. Will he look like a populist or a guy out of ideas? Considering it's the BUDGET my opinion is that it's the later. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Could you bold American any more times? It's almost as though you're trying to scare people. This is so cute...fighting over the oh so predictable use of the American bogeyman. Personally, I find it disheartening that people could support a man who has needed to run away from parliament twice. Elect a guy based on his policies. If it's Harper, so be it. However, he's turned to the public for budget consultations. Will he look like a populist or a guy out of ideas? Considering it's the BUDGET my opinion is that it's the later. Now..now..even I know that Canadians don't "elect" Mr. Harper directly. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 This is so cute...fighting over the oh so predictable use of the American bogeyman. Didn't you say yesterday that this didn't happen? LOL Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Could you bold American any more times? It's almost as though you're trying to scare people. I bolded it twice. Normally when you get an adviser you get someone experienced in the area. Harper did good here. Likewise, if you want someone to be PM you'd naturally want a Canadian. But for an American adviser you'd want an American. If the Liberals want to use an American to be their leader and a Canadian to be their American adviser then I don't see how they expect to do well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ Personally, I find it disheartening that people could support a man who has needed to run away from parliament twice. Elect a guy based on his policies. If it's Harper, so be it. However, he's turned to the public for budget consultations. Will he look like a populist or a guy out of ideas? Considering it's the BUDGET my opinion is that it's the later. This is off topic to this thread. I didn't say I supported Harper's decision to prorogue. Not all of us are as blindly partisan as you are. Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 I bolded it twice. Normally when you get an adviser you get someone experienced in the area. Harper did good here. Likewise, if you want someone to be PM you'd naturally want a Canadian. But for an American adviser you'd want an American. If the Liberals want to use an American to be their leader and a Canadian to be their American adviser then I don't see how they expect to do well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49We8C2tzMQ This is off topic to this thread. I didn't say I supported Harper's decision to prorogue. Not all of us are as blindly partisan as you are. Ahahaha there it goes again. Twice! Hilarious. Anyways, considering the only party whose talking points include the anti-American argument, despite the little absurdity and hypocrisy of Harper and his reform chums of wanting to turn Canada into a republic, is the Conservative Party. I put two and two together and that's how it turned out. If I'm wrong I apologize, but something tells me I'm not. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Ahahaha there it goes again. Twice! Hilarious. ? Anyways, considering the only party whose talking points include the anti-American argument, despite the little absurdity and hypocrisy of Harper and his reform chums of wanting to turn Canada into Your age is showing. Harper and the rest of the Conservatives (and Reform before them) were blasted as being too American for years. The hypocrisy is that of the Liberals for being anti-American and getting someone like Ignatieff. Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) ? Your age is showing. Harper and the rest of the Conservatives (and Reform before them) were blasted as being too American for years. The hypocrisy is that of the Liberals for being anti-American and getting someone like Ignatieff. You mean getting a smart Canadian who taught at Harvard? At least it's better than having a man who had to drop out of U of T and run to Alberta because it wasn't ideologically to his liking. That situation kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it? In the end, if Iggy called himself American is neither here nor there. He has neither argued for Republicanism or tried to destroy the institutions which at least Canadians hold so dear. In the end, he presents forward looking ideas. Isn't that what's supposed to be important? Edited January 8, 2010 by nicky10013 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Didn't you say yesterday that this didn't happen? LOL No...I said it happens with clockwork regularity. I wonder if people realize that Facebook is also American? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 No...I said it happens with clockwork regularity. I wonder if people realize that Facebook is also American? Hmmm, I apologize, I seem to remember differently. Perhaps you said it wouldn't work for the Liberals. I frankly can't remember. It's late. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Hmmm, I apologize, I seem to remember differently. Perhaps you said it wouldn't work for the Liberals. I frankly can't remember. It's late. I agree..it is way too late for the Liberals. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
nicky10013 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 I agree..it is way too late for the Liberals. Ahahah well considering conservatives want to take society back to the 50s, I'd say liberals have a lot easier time making that argument. Quote
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