Building the WTC

[DogOnPorch]

A 2 part short film by the NYC Port Authority on the WTC's construction (from 1983).

Edited September 11, 2010 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muB1yKlhvKs

Several parts: Pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntmgZBJ4YH0 Edited September 11, 2010 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

[Guest American Woman]

I'll always remember the view from the top of the WTC ... and I'll always remember the view of the NYC skyline the first time I saw it without the WTC.

[GostHacked]

As ugly as people say the buildings were, they were a technological marvel for the day. I thought they were cool looking myself. It's kind of surreal to watch movies made before that day, which show the towers.

[Guest American Woman]

As ugly as people say the buildings were, they were a technological marvel for the day. I thought they were cool looking myself. It's kind of surreal to watch movies made before that day, which show the towers.

I thought they were cool looking, too; and I feel the same way you do, about it being surreal to watch movies/tv shows where the towers are prominent. I think about the people who lost family/friends, too, and wonder how constantly, unexpectedly seeing the towers like that must affect them.

[DogOnPorch]

I thought they were cool looking, too; and I feel the same way you do, about it being surreal to watch movies/tv shows where the towers are prominent. I think about the people who lost family/friends, too, and wonder how constantly, unexpectedly seeing the towers like that must affect them.

The most remarkable thing about the two towers was how @$&*#% tall they were next to the rest of Manhattan's skyline. Both the Empire State and the Chrysler buildings seemed almost tiny in comparison.

[GostHacked]

The most remarkable thing about the two towers was how @$&*#% tall they were next to the rest of Manhattan's skyline. Both the Empire State and the Chrysler buildings seemed almost tiny in comparison.

How could you NOT notice them. I'd say rebuild them as they were before but with the modern tech, they could go higher.

[Shady]

How could you NOT notice them. I'd say rebuild them as they were before but with the modern tech, they could go higher.

Yep, that's what I wish they were doing too. Altough, what they have planned looks pretty cool as well.

PIC

[jbg]

My late father was an interior architect. He refused to design offices in the WTC since he considered the heat-seeking nature of the elevators unsafe.

I guess he was prophetic.

[Bonam]

How could you NOT notice them. I'd say rebuild them as they were before but with the modern tech, they could go higher.

They should rebuild a new WTC tower that is higher than the current highest building in the world, the Burj Khalifa. So roughly double the height of the old WTC. Now THAT would look impressive. Plus it would send a message: if you try and kick America down, it'll just come back way stronger and better than before.

Edited September 14, 2010 by Bonam

[Shakeyhands]

Plus it would send a message: if you try and kick America down, it'll just come back way stronger and better than before.

Only issue would be what a magnet for trouble it would become.

[jbg]

They should rebuild a new WTC tower that is higher than the current highest building in the world, the Burj Khalifa. So roughly double the height of the old WTC. Now THAT would look impressive. Plus it would send a message: if you try and kick America down, it'll just come back way stronger and better than before.

Only issue would be what a magnet for trouble it would become.

One of the rare times I'm with Shakeyhands, but for different reasons.

The WTC site is in a hard to access part of Manhattan. While it has some mass transit access, it is basically on the wrong lines; not on the Express lines of the old "IRT" system. It is near, but not on the "No. 1" train which is the former Broadway Local, and it is on two IND lines, which basically serve Manhattan's West Side, and Queens, one of the outer boroughs. Thus, even before the attacks it was difficult to rent out, and government agencies initially were much of the tenant body. Later, at the height of the ".com" boom some financial companies went it there.

So basically the last thing it needs is more height. And as Shakeyhands correctly points out that makes it a magnet for trouble.

[Bonam]

One of the rare times I'm with Shakeyhands, but for different reasons.

The WTC site is in a hard to access part of Manhattan. While it has some mass transit access, it is basically on the wrong lines; not on the Express lines of the old "IRT" system. It is near, but not on the "No. 1" train which is the former Broadway Local, and it is on two IND lines, which basically serve Manhattan's West Side, and Queens, one of the outer boroughs. Thus, even before the attacks it was difficult to rent out, and government agencies initially were much of the tenant body. Later, at the height of the ".com" boom some financial companies went it there.

So basically the last thing it needs is more height. And as Shakeyhands correctly points out that makes it a magnet for trouble.

Not a big deal really. Such a project would cost tens of billions, adding some new underground subway connections just for the building would be such a small cost in comparison as to be lost among the rest of the budget anyway.

[jbg]

Not a big deal really. Such a project would cost tens of billions, adding some new underground subway connections just for the building would be such a small cost in comparison as to be lost among the rest of the budget anyway.

Imagine the disruption to a functioning city? And in this case it would not be a simple undertaking.

Simply put, the WTC's building was socialism gone madly bad. A building that was not needed was put in a bad place. And guess who subsidized it? People like me, through sky-high New York area taxes. I'd prefer practical and economically well-grounded projects.

[Guest American Woman]

Only issue would be what a magnet for trouble it would become.

I have to wonder if this is how it would be perceived by a lot of people, and as a result, if people would be afraid to be in it.

[guyser]

I have to wonder if this is how it would be perceived by a lot of people, and as a result, if people would be afraid to be in it.

It likely would be for the near future.

certain variables would make it a tough sell.....

- Insurance rates for both landlord and tenant if they could get it for the long term. Maybe a subscribers policy but only in the short term as everyone w0ould want to get off the risk after a year or two.

Lease rates would have to be low to entice, and low wont pay the rent.

I think jbg is right, its a lousy place to build since getting anything in or out would be a colossal cluster F*** . Maybe if they brought supplies in by barge, but costs go up in that case.

Turn in into a memorial and move on.

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