punked Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 From the Liberal nomination news Johanne Brisson will be the Liberal candidate in the riding of Louis-Saint-Laurent. Problem is a Johanne Brisson is a lobbyist and former PQ ministerial advisor. The PQ is a separatist party if I am not wrong seems a bit dicey I bet it gets no play the press though. http://theliberalscarf.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 No biggie...just about every NDPer in Quebec is a separatist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 No biggie...just about every NDPer in Quebec is a separatist. I sat with about 120 NDPers from the Quebec delegation at the Federal convention and I can say none of them were separatists, the believed in a strong Quebec as part of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I sat with about 120 NDPers from the Quebec delegation at the Federal convention and I can say none of them were separatists, the believed in a strong Quebec as part of Canada. You should try sitting with the quebec members of the socialist caucas of the NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 What exactly does it mean to be a "ministerial advisor" to the PQ? Is that something like being an economic advisor, or a health advisor, or any number of advisors who are not necessarily partisan? But even if he was; Hell, Lucien Buchard no longer seeks seperation last time I heard. If he can turn a new leaf, what is preventing anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 You should try sitting with the quebec members of the socialist caucas of the NDP. I stay away from the socialist caucus, lean much toward moderates in the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I stay away from the socialist caucus, lean much toward moderates in the party. Good for you. They are loons. Never the less the NDP runs separtists in Quebec, like André Frappier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Seems to me, this candidate isn't doing anything the Alliance party didn't do. If you can't win over the people then change parties and run but of course the Alliance had to change their name too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Wasn't it both the Liberals and NDP would didn't mind a bit sharing Federal power with them? Actually having seperatists in Federal power positions? Shame on both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Wasn't it both the Liberals and NDP would didn't mind a bit sharing Federal power with them? Actually having seperatists in Federal power positions? Shame on both of them. Getting the BQ to settle down and not attempt to bring down a government for 18 months is smart politics. The LPC and NDP agreed to a set of policies to move forward on without the threat of the BQ everyday wanting to take down the government. The LPC and NDP were smart to lay out a 2 year plan and get the BQ off their backs for 18 months. Since January we have had two parties farting over when they are going to have an election, each one passing gas when their side goes up a point. The CPC and LPC would have given the Public a break from the constant whining of election, and the parties could have achieved something concrete. Instead we have the constant threat of election based on posturing and not upon achievement. Their is no more shame upon the NDP/LPC then their could be towards the CPC who had been longtime bedmates with the BQ. Regardless, the fact that a former PQ member would choose the LPC who did very very very very poorly in this riding in both 06 and 08 and not much better then the NDP who made decent gains, the fact is both these parties are far behind the BQ who might not even be considered withing striking distance of the CPC seat, even though they held the riding back in 04. This is probably much ado about nothing. In the meantime, I am certain that the Conservatives would love to have the Separatist back in the fold again. Shades of Bouchard and Mulroney.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Wasn't it both the Liberals and NDP would didn't mind a bit sharing Federal power with them? Actually having seperatists in Federal power positions? Shame on both of them. Wasn't the Tories that signed a deal with the socialists and separatists to do the same thing? Shame on them. And shame on you for forgetting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Wasn't the Tories that signed a deal with the socialists and separatists to do the same thing? Shame on them. And shame on you for forgetting this. You have a copy of that agreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 You have a copy of that agreement? I do actually. And it has been posted here a few times. And you have seen it a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I do actually. And it has been posted here a few times. And you have seen it a few times. If you are refering to the letter, that was no agreement. Unlike the liberal party signing an accord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 If you are refering to the letter, that was no agreement. Unlike the liberal party signing an accord. What utter BS. It was an agreement according to veryone except Conservatives now trying to scurry for cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 What utter BS. It was an agreement according to veryone except Conservatives now trying to scurry for cover. Utter BS is your spin on the meaning of that letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Utter BS is your spin on the meaning of that letter. Utter BS that you don't believe it was an agreement to get the Governor General to look to the the Tory, socialists and separatist coalition to take over. Why write a letter with all their names on it suggesting she look to them if they vote down the government. Um...coalition. So stop the outright lies and spin that it was anything other than a coalition. The fact that Harper's people talked publicly about such a thing emphasized it even more. And yes, that was also posted in these pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Utter BS that you don't believe it was an agreement to get the Governor General to look to the the Tory, socialists and separatist coalition to take over. Why write a letter with all their names on it suggesting she look to them if they vote down the government. Um...coalition. So stop the outright lies and spin that it was anything other than a coalition. The fact that Harper's people talked publicly about such a thing emphasized it even more. And yes, that was also posted in these pages. You are just tring to cover for the biggest gaffe the liberals have ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 You are just tring to cover for the biggest gaffe the liberals have ever made. It shot their Quebec numbers way up, and the Liberals can get Quebec they will win Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 You are just tring to cover for the biggest gaffe the liberals have ever made. You are just trying to ignore that your party was trying to set up a coalition themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 It shot their Quebec numbers way up, and the Liberals can get Quebec they will win Canada. The bloc has most of those seats locked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 The bloc has most of those seats locked up. Yah the Liberals fell from grace when they starting attacking the coalition as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Yah the Liberals fell from grace when they starting attacking the coalition as well. Citation for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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