Machjo Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090802/...oo_fat_to_fight Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
dub Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090802/...oo_fat_to_fight the nail in the coffin. we're witnessing the fall of the last two empires. In 2007 a government-commissioned report predicted that as many as nine out of 10 U.K. adults could be overweight by 2050. Widening waistlines are a problem for the U.S. Army as well. Earlier this year the Army's recruitment chief said obesity was the biggest obstacle to enrolling young men and women into the military - more of a problem than lack of education or a criminal record. they just got too fat. what a way to end it. Quote
Machjo Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Posted August 2, 2009 I think we can't ignore the fact either that a long protracted war has the military just about recruited out, leaving them with the leftover crumbs still willing to apply. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Army Guy Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I think it say's alot about this current generation, and about western culture in general...we've become a computer generation and loath anything physical... That being said, it's not a problem that can not be over come, even the Canadian forces are having this same problem, and have developed programs to assist recruits in thier physical fitiness. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
GostHacked Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I think it say's alot about this current generation, and about western culture in general...we've become a computer generation and loath anything physical...That being said, it's not a problem that can not be over come, even the Canadian forces are having this same problem, and have developed programs to assist recruits in thier physical fitiness. Our western culture sure is getting fat. Our culture and lifestyles are abound with fatness. Army Guy, what is the nutritional content of some of those field rations? How healthy are the prepared meals you get when on training or when you are stationed out of country? Quote
M.Dancer Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Our western culture sure is getting fat. Our culture and lifestyles are abound with fatness. Army Guy, what is the nutritional content of some of those field rations? How healthy are the prepared meals you get when on training or when you are stationed out of country? They are designed to fill the basic requirements of an highly active man. Taste not included. The breakfast lung was so bad, many I knew would eat the chili in the morning, which made the air in the APCs and Grizzlies a little rank by afternoon... Nothing beats the old pre RTE rations....canned bacon...instant mashed potatoes in a foil bag which often became instant potato soup....magic touch coffee whitener which could be used to start fires on damp wood....and the crackers...okay, everything beats the old tinned rations...especially carrying 3 days worth of them. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Army Guy Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I'd have to say everyone has a say in todays rations, right down to the soldier, they are far better than the old rations Dancer describes, but are packed with calories over 4000 per meal, if you consume the entire contents....they are designed for a soldier on the move....They also have a vegitarian meal, A muslim / jewish meal...and regular North American meal... nutritional content is good, the medical side of the house ensured it's all up to par, they've sucked some of the flavour out but generally it is a good meal, keep in mind there are limited amount of choices for each type Break, lunch, supper....so a long deployment can get pretty repetitive....but thats what Mom's packages from home are for... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
M.Dancer Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 The tinned bacon was quite good. It came in a tin the size of a cat food tine. You used a simple can opener provided in the rations. And the bacon unrolled like a tape. Salty and chewey, great with beer. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I'd have to say everyone has a say in todays rations, right down to the soldier, they are far better than the old rations Dancer describes, but are packed with calories over 4000 per meal, if you consume the entire contents....they are designed for a soldier on the move....They also have a vegitarian meal, A muslim / jewish meal...and regular North American meal...nutritional content is good, the medical side of the house ensured it's all up to par, they've sucked some of the flavour out but generally it is a good meal, keep in mind there are limited amount of choices for each type Break, lunch, supper....so a long deployment can get pretty repetitive....but thats what Mom's packages from home are for... Wow really? Around 12,000 calories per day? It seems like way too much. But when you think about it, it gets burned up pretty quick carrying around the gear and such and if you are always on the move, then yeah it's just enough. Interesting stuff. Quote
Bonam Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Wow really? Around 12,000 calories per day? It seems like way too much. But when you think about it, it gets burned up pretty quick carrying around the gear and such and if you are always on the move, then yeah it's just enough. Interesting stuff. I do a lot of hiking and know that walking with a pack on uphill/downhill, you're burning in the neighborhood of 10,000 calories/day. I imagine soldiers probably have heavier gear and move around a comparable amount, at least in situations when they are moving around on foot throughout the majority of the day. I suppose if they are driving around in vehicles though, or walking on flat ground (in towns/cities), they are probably burning a lot less. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090802/...oo_fat_to_fight Who fights these days - you just sit your fat ass into the seat of a vehicle and get blown up by IEDs - no one actually fights anymore..there is no war - just a bunch of chumps losing their lives because we have political leaders a that are dellusional and are trying to obtain the same glory that their grandfathers found in combat - who actually did fight - and for a good reason - so being fat is just fine - might even save your life when you get banged up by some big boom...I still don't get it - what ever happened to good old fashioned carpet bombing? Or limited nuking? Or Napalm? Looks like we are pulling out of Afghanistan on time = guess..the military contracts have been fulfilled and profits taken...what a waste of young men.. Quote
Bonam Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 what ever happened to good old fashioned carpet bombing? Or limited nuking? Or Napalm? Our goals in the wars we fight now are different than our goals in the wars we fought then. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Our goals in the wars we fight now are different than our goals in the wars we fought then. Wars gave goals? I did not know they slowed down long enough to actually think and have a goal - I heard some mother of some soldier today saying in a haughty tone that our military is there to "educate" the primatives...what makes us so damned special - we can't even curb the blacks at Jane and Finch from shooting each other - how do we expect to curb these old tribes - and what about the opiate problem - why has it increased with our envolvement and not lessened? If there was one true leader here in Canada or the States or Europe - someone would have gone and negotiated a peace - but no - just like the Americans - we chase after "terrorists" but we dare not go to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and reprimand the bastards for funding the lunitics we seek to destroy. Quote
Bonam Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Wars gave goals? Yes they most certainly do. Feel free to pause to think if you are unsure, prior to replying. what makes us so damned special The difference between first person and third person. If there was one true leader here in Canada or the States or Europe - someone would have gone and negotiated a peace - but no - just like the Americans - we chase after "terrorists" but we dare not go to Pakistan Actually we (that is, the US) have carried out thousands of combat missions into Pakistan to target terrorists, and furthermore have pressured their government to take their own action against these terrorists. Quote
Army Guy Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) I do a lot of hiking and know that walking with a pack on uphill/downhill, you're burning in the neighborhood of 10,000 calories/day. I imagine soldiers probably have heavier gear and move around a comparable amount, at least in situations when they are moving around on foot throughout the majority of the day. I suppose if they are driving around in vehicles though, or walking on flat ground (in towns/cities), they are probably burning a lot less. Foot patrols are not that uncommon, Afghan has every feature you'll find on the map, flat, hills, to moutains....they all get patroled for extended periods... A soldiers basic combat gear set up wieghs in at 45 to 50 pounds, thats without a rucksack, "just your basic kit" extended foot patrols can see your ruck sack wiegh in at well over 100 lbs...and for an added bonus the avg temp is well over 45, it's not hot nor f***ing hot, but really F****ing hot....It is not all that uncommon for a soldier to loss on avg of 40 lbs during his tour.... And while the winter months are cooler, the temp difference during the day and night is a killer....it's hot during the day and freezing during the night. Most patrols or movement are down in a LAV III or helo's now, where inside veh temps are even hotter, on avg 10 to 15 degrees hotter....a place where just thinking can drench you in sweat...remember also that 3 rations are for a 24 hour period, todays equipment allows us to operate 24 hours a day, and when on extended patrols we normally do...little rest for the wicked...A LAV III is just as happy traveling at high ways speeds completely blacked out.... http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpu...;catalog=photos Visit My Website comabt camera Edited August 7, 2009 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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