Why many Canadian people have inaccurate knowledge of China

[Oleg Bach]

Western nations should ask China: are you avoiding human rights abuses just to please us?

Of course they avoid things that matter to us - and we don't seem to care as long as we turn a profit within our relationship with China - We act as if we are better than they...China has figured this about us - that when it comes to making money we are not willing to boycott them to save lives and aleviate human suffering...the west is exactly like China - they kill their disidents directly - we kill their disidents indirectly.

[bjre]

...the west is exactly like China - they kill their disidents directly - we kill their disidents indirectly.

In the 21st century, most people were killed by western country directly, such as in Iraq, and Afghanistan.

[benny]

Of course they avoid things that matter to us - and we don't seem to care as long as we turn a profit within our relationship with China - We act as if we are better than they...China has figured this about us - that when it comes to making money we are not willing to boycott them to save lives and aleviate human suffering...the west is exactly like China - they kill their disidents directly - we kill their disidents indirectly.

It is a competition.

[xul]

Western nations should ask China: are you avoiding human rights abuses just to please us?

Honestly, CPC boss only knows he needs to buy American trash debt to please Obama, though you couldn't suppose he would buy a lot.

I hear China foreign minister is in Canada, arranging the CPCs's bosses meeting later this year. Hoping CPCanada's boss could sell some made-in-Canada planes to another CPC boss to save Canadian workers job, not sell poor Chinese immigration applicants like me to his counterpart. 3 years has passed, we are still waiting to see how credible and honorable Canadian government woulb be.....

Every time my communist manager boss meets me he cracks joke to me, "haven't you successfully betrayed us yet?"---when I applied, the Canada PM was a Liberal and the processing time of Canadian Immigration Hong Kong Officer was only 18 months, so they asked a lot of supporting materials such as recommendation signed by applicants' boss. Now the conservative in power, they lengthened the time but no longer asked the supporting material until the immigration officer is ready to process the application---that's really a good move, but they just totally have forgoten the old applications like me. How could you ask a person tell his boss he will leave but just don't know when he will leave?

I tell my story here, just want Canadian understand, if you don't care others' interests--I don't mean immigrants, China has 1.4 billion people and the world has more and most of them will never dream to be otherwhere--- why you have rights to want others to care yours? Such political smear has lasted for over 20 years, it doesn't work. Why not stop doing such silly things instead of doing things more usefully? Look the effect of China-smearing on Canadian--someone seriously suggested Canada should rebuild slave system just because he believes what the papers told him, China's economy achievement depond on using slave labour so the only way to exceed China is using slave too.

Edited June 21, 2009 by xul

[benny]

Honestly, CPC boss only knows he needs to buy American trash debt to please Obama, though you couldn't suppose he would buy a lot.

Obama has not won the Presidential Election for his capacity to compare the effects of interest rates increases vs. those of inflation rate increases.

[Oleg Bach]

Very simply put - create western slave labour to compete with eastern slave labour ---- hum? Looks like us slaves don't have a say in being bought and sold to China and vis versa ---the slave trade is booming.

[benny]

Very simply put - create western slave labour to compete with eastern slave labour ---- hum? Looks like us slaves don't have a say in being bought and sold to China and vis versa ---the slave trade is booming.

Learn more about Hegel's Master-Slave dialectic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_dialectic

[Oleg Bach]

Learn more about Hegel's Master-Slave dialectic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_dialectic

It's like the fiat system of currencey ---it's a belief system - we have to believe we have no money and we also have to believe that the rich have money - in the meantime all it is - is a declaration of wealth - they take a piece of paper and print 100 on it - and we must submit ---- in reality everyone is broke ---- so it's like this - a man walks up to me and says - I am your master you are my slave - serve me! If you believe that - then you take your accepted role in the game...The bailouts are a good example - They were a statement that said ---we are rich - and we want you to give us your money on mass..so we can lend you back your own money at an interest...and like fools we admire the rich...who really are poor...it's a damned religion.

[benny]

It's like the fiat system of currencey ---it's a belief system - we have to believe we have no money and we also have to believe that the rich have money - in the meantime all it is - is a declaration of wealth - they take a piece of paper and print 100 on it - and we must submit ---- in reality everyone is broke ---- so it's like this - a man walks up to me and says - I am your master you are my slave - serve me! If you believe that - then you take your accepted role in the game...The bailouts are a good example - They were a statement that said ---we are rich - and we want you to give us your money on mass..so we can lend you back your own money at an interest...and like fools we admire the rich...who really are poor...it's a damned religion.

China is pegging its Yuan on the value of the US dollar. The value of the US dollar is fluctuating since 1971.

[xul]

Obama has not won the Presidential Election for his capacity to compare the effects of interest rates increases vs. those of inflation rate increases.

I guess the CPC boss buys Obama's debt only for political cause, such as the prospect of that Obama would sell him Dalai Lama if it is not Taiwan.

If he wants interests, buying CAD might be better---though Mr Harper maybe don't want him to buy a lot.

Edited June 21, 2009 by xul

[benny]

I guess the CPC boss buys Obama's debt only for political cause

There is a lot of truth in that.

[xul]

There is a lot of truth in that.

Don't worry. CPC boss is not as smarty as Bjre thinks. He buys the debts just because there are not a lot of other options. He is just like the living buddhas, he can not do any magic to make his things good and others' bad.

One cause of that Chinese economy is better than western just becasue Chinese in their culture likes to save money for emergency purpose, and it looks like CPC boss is also subdued the culture, so when the economic downturn happened, people takes the money out for purchase and then releases the suffer of most of the manufacture sectors and other sectors.

Another cause is collectivism in the culture. Chinese culture is based on agriculture. Anyone can imagine, for thousands years, when the river flood, millions of people works along the riverbank to protect their property, no one cares who does more and who does less----just like western people when they are soldiers, knowing if anyone fails, all others will fail. And now in industrial ages, the culture continues. In Chinese factories, workers more like collective wages cutting down than keeping their own interests but kicking weaks out, and there is no one question the CPC boss using governmental money to bailout poor countrymen. So it lowers the unemployed rates and increases the sell.

Of course, there is the third cause. When west in economic depression, people likes to go to China-town's $2 store, LOL, maybe India-town's $2 store, to buy their pants . So to those economists, a country with many poor people to cut wages and produce cheap goods is not entirely a bad thing.

Edited June 22, 2009 by xul

[benny]

Chinese rulers know that a population without access to social security and public pension is easier to exploit.

[bjre]

Canadian Human Rights Commission do censor internet.

Western governments are controlled by large interest groups. Large interest groups do that by control media to brainwash your mind with TV that send lies and cheatings, half truth and filtered information into every house, so that the vote are controlled, and the parliment is controlled.

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Ameri...n/dp/052595015X

[benny]

Why this need to pass by China if your purpose is only to criticized the USA!?

[bjre]

Why this need to pass by China if your purpose is only to criticized the USA!?

Not for criticizing the USA, just give some evidence that the mainstream media here is nothing different from their Middle East counterpart that pursue so called "political religion" instead of "truth". We are basically live in lies everyday.

[benny]

Not for criticizing the USA, just give some evidence that the mainstream media here is nothing different from their Middle East counterpart that pursue so called "political religion" instead of "truth". We are basically live in lies everyday.

The fact that our media executives are not shy to speak about the "number of eyeballs" and to reduce the public to "eyeballs" is such evidence. It is easy to give such evidences precisely because Western media are more cynical/less mystifying than the media in other parts of the world.

[Oleg Bach]

I have two at my disposal - estigmatism - makes old people look young in my world - hello benny

[bjre]

The fact that our media executives are not shy to speak about the "number of eyeballs" and to reduce the public to "eyeballs" is such evidence. It is easy to give such evidences precisely because Western media are more cynical/less mystifying than the media in other parts of the world.

Yes you have eyeballs, but those can not even give you the power to see what others are acting/talking even 1 km away, let alone in another country.

[benny]

Yes you have eyeballs, but those can not even give you the power to see what others are acting/talking even 1 km away, let alone in another country.

"My eyeballs" means my attention.

[Sir Bandelot]

"My eyeballs" means my attention.

Are you getting annoyed yet?

[CAMP]

Yes you have eyeballs, but those can not even give you the power to see what others are acting/talking even 1 km away, let alone in another country.

Bjre, China has many problems and it's sorted history of cruel human behaviour is no different than many other countries.

I think if I had to rank countries in order of just how nasty they were I'd be ranking China right up there with USSR or Hitler Germany, along with a few others.

I know many Chinese immigrants in Canada and some of them thought the same way you do. A few I know very well and they now realize how brainwashed they were and really didn't know what went on in their country history including the square and deaths that happend there.

I suspect over time you will change your thinking once you wash your brain with western soap...lol!

It's plaining obvious to anyone on here that if you indeed are in Canada you should admit why. You can't fool us.

You probably wanted more than one kid and couldn't do that over there. (Like many I know)

And you were tired of living on rice with tiny bits of protien now and then, you know, like a chicken claw.

At any rate if you want to return to China, I think we could round up enough $ off this website and people on this forum string to get your butt back there....lol!

Edited June 24, 2009 by CAMP

[benny]

Are you getting annoyed yet?

A bit yes!

[Sir Bandelot]

Bjre, China has many problems and it's sorted history of cruel human behaviour is no different than many other countries.

I think if I had to rank countries in order of just how nasty they were I'd be ranking China right up there with USSR or Hitler Germany, along with a few others.

I know many Chinese immigrants in Canada and some of them thought the same way you do. A few I know very well and they now realize how brainwashed they were and really didn't know what went on in their country history including the square and deaths that happend there.

I suspect over time you will change your thinking once you wash your brain with western soap...lol!

It's plaining obvious to anyone on here that if you indeed are in Canada you should admit why. You can't fool us.

You probably wanted more than one kid and couldn't do that over there. (Like many I know)

And you were tired of living on rice with tiny bits of protien now and then, you know, like a chicken claw.

At any rate if you want to return to China, I think we could round up enough $ off this website and people on this forum string to get your butt back there....lol!

If your planning on staying over here your should start singing Oh Canada everyday ... it's now your team song if your on my team... so start doh ray meing ... NOW! and forget about being Chinese.

You sound like some kind of nationalist nut already. Does this represent the Canadian Alternative Members party? With that kind of attitude, you can forget about my support.

[bjre]

A bit yes!

Sorry, but I did not want to annoy you.

If the result was like that, I apologize.

It won't change my view that media here are not better than China or many other countries western media often blamed.