benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 So ancient culture and values mean nothing....same for China? What was the idea behind the American Revolution again!? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 What was the idea behind the American Revolution again!? No taxation without representation. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) No taxation without representation. Middle Ages is taxation without representation. Edited June 20, 2009 by benny Quote
xul Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) He was fired by Truman. Yes, if Truman fired him when he just said that, American will not have DPRK nuke problem---DPRK may still exist---in a strip with its border mostly in Pyongyang... So why did Chinese kill each other? Do you think its good to China? Not peaceful at all...it was a Cold War...millions died. And who has won? I guess a lot of Americans may say, "our Americans has won." Maybe it is truth, by with what costs? If you calculate how many debts other countries owed America when the Cold War began and how many debts Amercia owes others now, you will hardly say "our Americans has won". Last year several days later when Russian invaded Georgia, I saw in CCTV news that Condoleezza Rice signed a treaty with Poland PM about setting a radar for missile shield in Poland. I felt very curious why Rice, unlike her broad-smiling Poland counterpart, looked unhappy in the news conference for this event could be considered a great diplomatic victory of America. Several hours later the newspapers came, I eagerly searched the columns for the news and found it. The title is--TREATY SIGNED, AMERICA WAS BLACKMAILED TEN BILLION DOLLARS TO FUND POLAND..... Poland would not agree with your version of history. China was hapless then...Americans and others slayed China's enemy. Yes---that's the political-correct answer for such questions---really universal political-correct answer, valid in American, Canada, Poland, Russia and China.... When Quebec fell in 1795, I guess the Frenches here must also feel hopeless...but two hundreds years later, today....I think I'd better hold my breath. It's not funny to violate the "universal political-correctness" Edited June 20, 2009 by xul Quote
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 I have the funny impression that more and more when the USA looks at China, it's looking at itself in a mirror! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Yes, if Truman fired him when he just said that, American will not have DPRK nuke problem---DPRK may still exist---in a strip with its border mostly in Pyongyang... DPRK does not exist...except in Hell. Do you think its good to China? China is China's worst enemy. And who has won? I guess a lot of Americans may say, "our Americans has won." Maybe it is truth, by with what costs? If you calculate how many debts other countries owed America then and how many debts Amercia owes others now, you will hardly say "our Americans has won" comfortablely. Then you would know cost of everything...value of nothing. Last year several days later when Russian invaded Georgia, I saw in CCTV news that Condoleezza Rice signed a treaty with Poland PM about setting a radar for missile shield in Poland. I felt very curious why Rice, unlike her broad-smiling Poland counterpart, looked unhappy in the news conference for this event could be considered a great diplomatic victory of America. Poland wants real alliance this time around. Several hours later the newspapers came, I eagerly searched the columns for the news and found it. The title is--TREATY SIGNED, AMERICA WAS BLACKMAILED TEN BILLION DOLLARS TO FUND POLAND..... More cost of everything...value of nothing. Yes---that's the political-correct answer for such questions---really universal political-correct answer, valid in American, Canada, Poland, Russia and China.... Chinese did not die for Poland. When Quebec fell in 1795, I guess the Frenches here must also feel hopeless...but two hundreds years later, today....I think I'd better hold my breath. It's not funny to violate the "universal political-correctness" Hapless is different from hopeless. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 China is China's worst enemy. Its pollution is travelling a World already saturated by the US pollution. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Its pollution is travelling a World already saturated by the US pollution. Need gas mask in Shanghai...not New York. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Need gas mask in Shanghai...not New York. Plain luck! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Plain luck! Plain Chinese pollution. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) Plain Chinese pollution. Past pollution has been accumulated by the Western world. Edited June 20, 2009 by benny Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Past pollution has been accumulated in the Western world. Ship to China as scrap metal. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Ship to China as scrap metal. With no US remorse. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 With no US remorse. None. Boo-hoo. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 None. Boo-hoo. Say goodbye to your industrial base! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Say goodbye to your industrial base! China had none for 5,000 years. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 China had none for 5,000 years. See how fast things change!? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 See how fast things change!? USA gives base to China. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) USA gives base to China. China competes for it. Edited June 20, 2009 by benny Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) China competes for it. IBM goes to China.....Chinese students go to America. Edited June 20, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 IBM goes to China.....Chinese students go to America. A drain drain is a double-edge sword. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 A drain drain is a double-edge sword. Not drain....American gain. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Not drain....American gain. Short-term gain at best. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Short-term gain at best. Better than 5,000 years no gain. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 20, 2009 Report Posted June 20, 2009 Better than 5,000 years no gain. It goes like this: short-term gain for long term pain. Quote
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