charter.rights Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/05/21/...r-bay-hair.html The Crown doesn't think they will pursue charges. Outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck U. Farlie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I like one of the comments given below the article: "The answer is very simple. Hold the teacher down and shave her head. Afterall it appears not to be a crime." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 You have those that are not qualified arranging for the administration of mind altering drugs to children..a teacher basically prescribes the dope - they have no right....also - if we do not stand up and say - "I am not property of the state" "My children are my product and my property - they are NOT the property of the state - and no one has the right to come onto my property and cut MY grass - no matter how well intentioned - no one has the right to cut my childs hair - or change my childs brain chemistry.....RESPECT - is the transference of power - a teacher is to empower the child - NOT dis-empower - the child and by doing so dis-empower the parent - this is great disrespect of the child and the parents - and if the courts or government do not reprimand this teacher harshly - the message sent to the populace is "WE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE AND SEEK TO DISEPOWER THEM - If that is the case - then the whole goddamned government and court should step down and get lost...Because they are counter in what they do...they harm us and do not sustain or govern us...If they do not govern - they the ARE FIRED - ALONG WITH THIS LUNITIC TEACHER - THEY ALL SHOULD f OFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzin E Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 WHy should there be charges laid? The little prick needed a hair cut, the teach gave him one for free... a win-win, no? People have no respect for authority anymore. Back where I'm from a teacher could chop your head off & people wouldn't make this much fuss. Pussy canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 WHy should there be charges laid? The little prick needed a hair cut, the teach gave him one for free... a win-win, no?People have no respect for authority anymore. Back where I'm from a teacher could chop your head off & people wouldn't make this much fuss. Pussy canadians. Because it was a physical assault. No one has the right to touch another human being without their consent. Oleg. The first things the teachers, ministers and administrators did when children arrived at residential school is they shaved their heads. They did the same thing to Jews upon internment. It is a de-humanizing technique used degrade moral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Assault is a big strong of a word IMV. That being said, the T.S. clearly crossed the line and should be fired. If the ponytail was innaprpriate or against the rules, the parents should have been notified, and those rules should have been madeknown right from the start. Somehow, I doubt that this was a school rule. I'll be curious to see how the people who clamour for parents' right to withdraw their kids from the classroom every time words like gay or evolution are mentioned will react to this ooone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 That being said, the T.S. clearly crossed the line and should be fired. If the ponytail was innaprpriate or against the rules, the parents should have been notified, and those rules should have been madeknown right from the start. It wasn't a ponytail; it was his bangs, which the TA saw were hampering the kid's vision. We've sunk to new lows if the definitions of assault and violation now include trimming some brat's bangs so he can see properly. However, I doubt this is really about the hair; that, I suspect, is just serving as a convenient doorway for another FNs person to run out and cry victim, with the ubiquitous cash payments to follow in return. Had the kid not been aboriginal, this would never have made even a ripple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck U. Farlie Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 If that teacher had tried to cut my hair, they would have been stabbed with their scissors. I had a hell of a temper as a kid (and possibly still do), and I consider someone cutting my hair as an assault on me. Just because you don't like a hair style or how someone looks doesn't give you any right to go change it yourself. How would you like it if someone came up to you and started cutting your hair? How about if someone did it to your wife or child? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 How would you like it if someone came up to you and started cutting your hair? How about if someone did it to your wife or child? This is a child we're talking about, not an adult. If it were my child who had his too-long bangs cut, I'd probably tell him I was happy with the improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck U. Farlie Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 So in this case you happen to agree with the change made, but what if the TA did something to your kid that you did not agree with? What if they cut the hair into a mullet or shaved a swastika in his head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 So in this case you happen to agree with the change made, but what if the TA did something to your kid that you did not agree with? What if they cut the hair into a mullet or shaved a swastika in his head? As there's no rational reason for doing such a thing, my reaction would be quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck U. Farlie Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Rational or not, the TA should go through the correct channels. If they wanted the hair cut, they can ask you (the parent) - not do it them self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Rational or not, the TA should go through the correct channels. If they wanted the hair cut, they can ask you (the parent) - not do it them self. The TA could have, yes. And perhaps she did, and got no response. But having taken it upon herself to cut the hair so the kid could see rightly hardly warrants a suspension and an assault charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuzadd Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) I saw this news story and it is completely outrageous. As a parent, I can tell you if someone cut my minor childs hair, against his/her will, especially a person in a position of authority and trust, there would be hell to pay. Did the parent consent. NO It was an outrageous abuse on the part of the teacher's aide! The parent has every right to be upset. Oh and the teacher's aide, should be admonished at the very least, taught some kind of proper way of dealing with children, because clearly the TA hasn't a clue. And since it is not an assault, I say, cut the TA hair, hold her down and cut. Let's see if that person interprets it as an assault against her person. When my child was younger, she was a slow eater, the lunch room supervisor, told her eating so slow meant she was stupid. OH really? Wanna know how fast I was at the school? Sitting and waiting???? Talked to the teacher, and dammit that ignoramus apologized to my kid. btw: my kid graduated with honours and was valedictorian. Edited May 23, 2009 by kuzadd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 It wasn't a ponytail; it was his bangs, which the TA saw were hampering the kid's vision. We've sunk to new lows if the definitions of assault and violation now include trimming some brat's bangs so he can see properly. However, I doubt this is really about the hair; that, I suspect, is just serving as a convenient doorway for another FNs person to run out and cry victim, with the ubiquitous cash payments to follow in return. Had the kid not been aboriginal, this would never have made even a ripple. Or maybe if the kid hasn't been Aboriginal the TA would not have done this. The TA overstepped her authority. Period... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 The TA could have, yes. And perhaps she did, and got no response. But having taken it upon herself to cut the hair so the kid could see rightly hardly warrants a suspension and an assault charge. Taken it upon herself to cut the hair hardly warrants a suspension. It warrants firing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Taken it upon herself to cut the hair hardly warrants a suspension. It warrants firing... Oooooh - it takes a village to raise a child - go have your own and get your hands off mine...really hate that premise that the community has authorship over all the children and how they present themselves to the world - this kid and his parents seek to uphold a certain presention in order to maintain a culture - a tradition - and a way of life - vacariousness is like a stage mother that pushes the kid to dance when the kid has an aptitude for science. "Teacher leave the kids alone" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Or maybe if the kid hasn't been Aboriginal the TA would not have done this. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Those poor poor aboriginal kids...have never seen scissors - or know what a barber is- and they need to meet Jesus there personal saviour at the local residential school so they can be made civilized ---and educated - so they can go to New York and run a ponzi scheme - and steal 50 billion bucks...now that's real civilized.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Those poor poor aboriginal kids...have never seen scissors - or know what a barber is- and they need to meet Jesus there personal saviour at the local residential school so they can be made civilized ---and educated - so they can go to New York and run a ponzi scheme - and steal 50 billion bucks...now that's real civilized.. This is just another example of the kind of thinking of the majority of Canadians. That same thinking is what has prolonged genocide, institutionalized racism, scooped children from their homes and sent hundreds of thousands through torture and abuse-laden residential schools. What gets me is that people like the bambino think it is ok and natural...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 What gets me is that people like the bambino think it is ok and natural...... You shouldn't let imaginary things get to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 WHy should there be charges laid? The little prick needed a hair cut, the teach gave him one for free... a win-win, no?People have no respect for authority anymore. Back where I'm from a teacher could chop your head off & people wouldn't make this much fuss. Pussy canadians. Another out of work comedian.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I wonder if there are girls in his class with long hair. Did the TA take it upon herself to cut their hair as well? It was the choice of the parents and child for him to grow out his hair for whatever traditional dancing he was going to take part in. Not only is it ridiculous that this TA took advantage of the child, but it's culturally insensitive and a violation of his person. Those who say it is not assault, give your heads a shake. Should someone be allowed to walk the city streets randomly cutting the long hair of passers-by? If throwing a drink in the face of a security guard at a casino is assault, then this most certainly is assault as well. What if the TA put the child in makeup? Would that not be assault either? Those that support this teacher's actions must be trolling. I can't possibly see how any reasonable person would agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyOnDetails Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I am a male with hair that hangs lower than my arms, and no, I am not a thalidomide case. She is TA, but what is she REALLY teaching? Obviously, conformity and who is boss take priority over reading, riting and 'rithmatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 This is a new thread to me, too.... but what strikes me about the commentary is the apparent belief that being a TA is some sort of professional career. It pays about the same as being a sandwich artist, and requires about the same level of professional credentials. It was an asinine, utterly outrageous thing to do-- a disgrace. So... who was directing and supervising her work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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