Borg Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) You do see where I live, right? Not all of us hate him. Yes - however you are a "student on practicum" (and possibly hoping to collect pogie) if I remember correctly - which makes you too young to know why - other than book reading - you have never faced the man and seen the look in his eye. He was a deeply disturbed individual in my opinion who reached a position of power far beyond his abiity. So in truth I have discounted you - you would easily be swayed by books and university professors and eastern news - and will not learn to think for yourself - truly - think for yourself - despite not even knowing it yet - for more than a few years. Anyone old enough to be in business at that time has a far different thought than you. Anyone with a mortgage to pay, cattle to ship, well service company to run ........ You did not watch a lifes work disappear in a heartbeat due to his actions - we did. He was scum and I fear the eastern folk will fall in love with his "get" - which could bring another damned devil trudeau to the PM position. Borg Edited May 27, 2009 by Borg Quote
waldo Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 I can see trusting the Queen. But a separatist Haitian, non-Canadian traitor married to a firebrand separatist?ah ha... le agent provocateur!ordinarily, most would ignore your shite... since you must be feeling particularly bold you won't mind substantiating your assertions. Start with current citizenship, renounced citizenship & personal statements made... don't forget to itemize the separatist details, particularly those that have been previously soundly trashed. Thanks in advance. I am not going to lower myself to the rude tone of your post. It is sufficient to note who she sleeps in bed with. 'Nuff said. rude tone? What tone is your calling someone a separatist... non-Canadian traitor... married to a firebrand separatist? What tone is that? as you haven't the gumption to even attempt to back your "toneless" assertions, we must accept your indirect lofty retraction. 'Nuff said. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 The only person a Canadian should trust fully is himself... Politicals are cut throat opportunists and wild minded careerists for the most part. If the citizen trusts his own good judgement then perhaps that good judgement can be sent along to his REPRESENTATIVE....Harper is our representive - not our god damned boss...once you get that straight...and know that YOU are on a higher level than your servant in Ottawa - then perhaps you can trust the out come of certain issues because you actually had a part in the implimentation of policy - No political on his own without instruction is trust worthy - no lawyer with out instruction is trust worthy - How can they be - unless instructed they don't have a clue on what to do - Citizens must be involved - and stop depending on the decisions of politicians...who make mistakes because we do NOT instruct our reps. Quote
Smallc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 So in truth I have discounted you - you would easily be swayed by books and university professors and eastern news Yeah, all that terrible book learnin'.... Quote
Hydraboss Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 No, not "terrible book learnin'" but simply different levels of understanding. I'm sure I have a different understanding of WWII era Germany than someone who lived through it. That's not a negative comment on anyone in particular; it's fact. PET would be shot dead if he set foot in parts of Alberta right now. Glad he's dead. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Smallc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 I'm sure I have a different understanding of WWII era Germany than someone who lived through it. Right, someone who lived through it would lack an objective view and may still hate Liberals...err, Germans, to this day. Quote
Hydraboss Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Right, someone who lived through it would lack an objective view and may still hate Liberals...err, Germans, to this day. Exactly correct. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Smallc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) And it may also be a rather foolish hatred. Edited May 27, 2009 by Smallc Quote
Hydraboss Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 And it may also be a rather foolish hatred. Not foolish by any means. As for "book learnin'", there is no written substitute for direct experience. To have lived through the "Dark Ages" (PET years) provides a level of experience and understanding that no writer could ever adequately describe, and even if he/she was close, all writing has a bias one way or the other. Your understanding of the situation is swayed/tainted by the authors and instructors you have had. If your professors have a liberal bent, then your understanding and belief will have a liberal bent. Same goes for the other end of the scale. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Perspective is a relative thing, many in fact a majority of Canadians live in eastern Canada and they supported and promoted Trudeau for years. They thought he was a great guy! To me the dark ages were under Mulroney. The golden age is nowhere on the horizon. Quote
Smallc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 The golden age is nowhere on the horizon. Ah, you've got to be more optimistic than that. You and I don't always agree on things, but you seem like a reasonable person. Things will get better. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Ah, you've got to be more optimistic than that. You and I don't always agree on things, but you seem like a reasonable person. Things will get better. WE have the downfall of the American Empire unfolding before our eyes, the rise of the Chinese superpower and the specter of an uncontrollable maniac running Korea, and as we speak a redneck Israeli PM selling residential lots on the West Bank! How do you see things getting better? I mean this nation really should step back and let the big boys play it out while we clean up our own act, but other than that what can this nation really do to turn things around? Quote
Moonbox Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 The only thing you have to do to judge Pierre Trudeau's record as PM is to look at the deficits he ran and the debt level he accumulated. To THIS DAY the majority of our debt can be laid directly at his feet and we are STILL paying off his ludicrous spending 27 years since he left. I can back that up with numbers if you like, but Turdeau sold us out to finance his dubious legend. He failed at national unity, because he alienated the West. He failed as a fiscal manager, because we are still paying his debt. He failed us as a statesman, because he never did anything but piss off our neighbours and the only thing good you can say about him is he at LEAST got Canada in the news. It was really great to have the PM's wife make news for screwing around with coked out rock stars. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
jdobbin Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 It was really great to have the PM's wife make news This is where the right really goes into the gutter. Quote
Borg Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) This is where the right really goes into the gutter. Holier than thou has just spoken Actually the comment you reacted to was a true comment - so does thay make you a holy racist? Borg Edited May 27, 2009 by Borg Quote
Borg Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) And it may also be a rather foolish hatred. Not to a person who lived through it - and only someone like you would even suggest it - proving my point. Your time is coming - it happens to everyone sooner or later - when it happens - refer back to this. After all you might be able to call yourself foolish. It is that superior - "I am educated but not experienced" - "I am better than you" attitude - that tells many people many things about you. Borg Edited May 27, 2009 by Borg Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Holier than thou has just spokenActually the comment you reacted to was a true comment - so does thay make you a holy racist? Borg What does the mans wife have to do with anything at all? That is in fact digging into the gutter to find dirt, one should think there is enough VALID complaints to take issue of. Quote
Borg Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 What does the mans wife have to do with anything at all? That is in fact digging into the gutter to find dirt, one should think there is enough VALID complaints to take issue of. Point is: It happened and was reported in the news - you do not have to like it - but it is true - it happened - perhaps you should take this up with the media who reported it Borg Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 WE have the downfall of the American Empire unfolding before our eyes, the rise of the Chinese superpower and the specter of an uncontrollable maniac running Korea, and as we speak a redneck Israeli PM selling residential lots on the West Bank! Smallc is correct....Canada has already survived (quite well) the fall of your own "Empire". I'm sure Canada can do it again. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Point is: It happened and was reported in the news - you do not have to like it - but it is true - it happened - perhaps you should take this up with the media who reported itBorg The point is that the media is often steered into directions by informants with agendas. Ask Brian Mulroney about it sometime, it is gutter politics. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Smallc is correct....Canada has already survived (quite well) the fall of your own "Empire". I'm sure Canada can do it again. The Canadian Empire? Did I miss that part of history? Quote
Smallc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 I can say this without reservation Borg. I will never become a cynic and I will never stop loving the entire country. Quote
Borg Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 I can say this without reservation Borg. I will never become a cynic and I will never stop loving the entire country. Time, experience, age and life will form you - never say never - it is a long time Borg Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) The Canadian Empire? Did I miss that part of history? Depends on how old you are. God save the Queen. Krikey...I live in the USA and am far less concerned about the End of Empire than you seem to be. Perhaps the focus should be on things you actually control? Edited May 27, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Perhaps the focus should be on things you actually control? Pot, meet kettle. Quote
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