Law protect racism and bully

[CANADIEN]

of course as it would turn out there wasn't even such a words said

the white kid merely said the f word in the Asian child's language:

Hydraboss brought up the assaulter's interview: QUOTE:

(Asian kid) "He said the f-word in Chinese, and that made me mad cause I'm the only Asian in our school. It was racist and made me mad."

Its not like the white kid said "die you gook zipperhead scum!" or similar epithets... and to you of course Dancer, with your biblically hilarious and twisted moral code: that warrants an immediate assault! and of course you think the kid should be praised and made a hero out of... after all he was only stamping out racism... um well white racism (which is the only kind you care about)

What if a white kid was in a primarily hispanic school: and he was told by another student: the "f" word? would a suitable reaction be to beat, kick and slug the person who uttered this monosyllabic word? Of course not!

What if that same white kid said in defense "i'm the only white in school and surrounded by hispanic racist kids"....

I'd bet 1000 dollars that you'd be screaming for the white boy's blood...

Of course, nothing justifies the physical assault that took place. Does not change the fact that the white boy decided to insult the other boy because of his origin. And that is ok with you.

[CANADIEN]

if we do nothing that is...

And prey tell, what should we do?

Enlighten us o noble defender of what is not threatened.

[bjre]

with your biblically hilarious and twisted moral code ...

As what I have seen, the moral in Canada means:

If you are weak, let's bully you.

If you have income, let's take some from you.

That is the reason why many immigrants still don't think they are Canadians, because they don't feel like at home in Canada.

[Mr.Canada]

As what I have seen, the moral in Canada means:

If you are weak, let's bully you.

If you have income, let's take some from you.

That is the reason why many immigrants still don't think they are Canadians, because they don't feel like at home in Canada.

Many new immigrants don't dress like we do and continue to wear their ancestral dress which greatly differs from traditional Euro Canadian dress styles. This in and of itself creates barriers. Muslim women wearing bhurka's and niqab's doesn't exactly promote an aura's of open communication. Many people are scared when they see people wearing full face covering's with only their eyes showing, it's not the norm in Canada and will likely never be. So if immigrants want to be accepted by the white people they need to dress how we do, blend in and make efforts to be like we are and not different from us.

Why do white liberals care if they're accepted by the white people or not? They certainly don't. If they did they'd make efforts to assimilate but sadly many of them don't. I don't need to change to them, they need to change to us. This is our country frist and they're came here for a better life therefore they need to prove to us that they belong to stay. We've done our job, we took them in when no one else wants them. I'm not prepared to change my life to suit them they need to change their loves to suit mine. They are my guests.

I'm not alone in this feeling. If some of you ventured west of Spadina Ave. you'd know that.

[CANADIEN]

Many new immigrants don't dress like we do and continue to wear their ancestral dress which greatly differs from traditional Euro Canadian dress styles.

Who cares? If a 14 year old can basically show her panties in public, I am not about to be fazed by a burqa.

]Many people are scared when they see people wearing full face covering's with only their eyes showing

then they scare easily.

I don't need to change to them

Good thing, because nobody is asking you.

This is our country frist

You mean the First Nations, right?

It is the country of anyone willing to make it his/her home and abide by its laws.

They are my guests.

As much as you are the guest of the First Nations, right? People who come here and decide to make this country their home and to abide by its law is anything but a guest.

I'm not alone in this feeling. If some of you ventured west of Spadina Ave. you'd know that.

I live west of Spadina Avenue.

[Smallc]

I live west of Spadina Avenue.

So do I....by quite a distance actually. The ummm....'different people' don't scare me.

[Mr.Canada]

As much as you are the guest of the First Nations, right? People who come here and decide to make this country their home and to abide by its law is anything but a guest.

I live west of Spadina Avenue.

Brits conquered the First Nation people. Brits made Canada what it is. Installed a British Law and Parliamentary system that still survives to this day. Plain and simple. If you feel some white guilt over those facts well that's your problem. I don't understand why it's so important that these immigrants be accepted by the white people to people like you. I live outside the city to get away from low class people of all races.

Quite simple really. If these people are soooo concerned about being accepted, which I don't think they are, they'd dress how the rest of the country dresses but they don't. They are only concerned with coming here, moving their friends and family here then setting up cultural ghettos in Canada and mostly in the cities.

Then they sit back whilst white liberals do their speaking for them as the white liberals feel guilty over their forefathers conquering the Natives 200 years ago.

[CANADIEN]

Brits conquered the First Nation people. Brits made Canada what it is. Installed a British Law and Parliamentary system that still survives to this day. Plain and simple. If you feel some white guilt over those facts well that's your problem.

I do not feel any personal guilt for things I did not do. But when whine about immigrants are merely guests, remember that your ancestors and mine were guests too. And today's immigrants are not exactly conquering anything, now are they?

I don't understand why it's so important that these immigrants be accepted by the white people to people like you.[

Actually, you don't understand, period. I'ts about living by the standard we've have set as a society.... freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom for individuals to choose how they live as long as they do not infringe on the right of others to to the same. Nothing more, and most certainly nothing less.

I live outside the city to get away from low class people of all races.

Getting away from yourself? On behalf of the city, thank you.

If these people are soooo concerned about being accepted, which I don't think they are, they'd dress how the rest of the country dresses but they don't.

And how do WE dress? In ripped t-shirts, or in suits? In conervative skirt and blouse, or like Britney Spears? As long as you're not walking naked on the streets, how YOU dress is none of MY business or anyone else's. The same goes the other way.

Edited May 16, 2009 by CANADIEN

[CANADIEN]

Brits made Canada what it is.

People from everywhere have made Canada what it is. People from everywhere make Canada what it is. People from everywhere will make Canada what it will be.

[Sir Bandelot]

Brits conquered the First Nation people. Brits made Canada what it is

Yes they did, a multi-cultural country under one common law.

And Brits allowed the muslim palace guards to wear their turbans.

[bjre]

Many new immigrants don't dress like we do and continue to wear their ancestral dress which greatly differs from traditional Euro Canadian dress styles. This in and of itself creates barriers. Muslim women wearing bhurka's and niqab's doesn't exactly promote an aura's of open communication. Many people are scared when they see people wearing full face covering's with only their eyes showing, it's not the norm in Canada and will likely never be. So if immigrants want to be accepted by the white people they need to dress how we do, blend in and make efforts to be like we are and not different from us.

Why do white liberals care if they're accepted by the white people or not? They certainly don't. If they did they'd make efforts to assimilate but sadly many of them don't. I don't need to change to them, they need to change to us. This is our country frist and they're came here for a better life therefore they need to prove to us that they belong to stay. We've done our job, we took them in when no one else wants them. I'm not prepared to change my life to suit them they need to change their loves to suit mine. They are my guests.

I'm not alone in this feeling. If some of you ventured west of Spadina Ave. you'd know that.

Is Robert Dziekanski wear his dress greatly differs from traditional Euro Canadian dress styles? Or is he a non-white?

The problem is not white or not, it is weak or not.

The strong people in Canada love to take, they like to say: "You can not win", "we are aggressive" (Lawyers love this), "You are the loser", They don't have any instinct to help others. That is the education they received. That is the Moral they talk about.

By the way, I guess "Muslim women" wearing looks like a female monastic that is very "traditional Euro style"

Edited May 16, 2009 by bjre

[Smallc]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about...I certainly don't anyway.

[bjre]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about...I certainly don't anyway.

If so, I hope more people like you.

[Mr.Canada]

People from everywhere have made Canada what it is. People from everywhere make Canada what it is. People from everywhere will make Canada what it will be.

It was only about mid 1980's that immigrants from poor countries were allowed to Canada en mass. So seeing that they've only been in Canada for 20 years or so they've contributed very little to the social fabric. 20 years versus hundreds of years is no contest. Many of them are still getting used to living in a free country were the roads are paved and women are equal to men. This is a new experience to many of them. They have given very little back as of yet. Hopefully our tax dollars aren't going to waste and they will one day become important in our society. As it is now they given very little aside from the odd restaurant and corner shop.

Until they can come to realize that in order to be accepted they must dress like the rest of us and leave their fights where they came from I see very little improvement coming forth. It's sad that they'd rather make the rest of Canada uncomfortable other then embrace their new country and try to be like their hosts.

[CANADIEN]

It was only about mid 1980's that immigrants from poor countries were allowed to Canada en mass. So seeing that they've only been in Canada for 20 years or so they've contributed very little to the social fabric. 20 years versus hundreds of years is no contest. Many of them are still getting used to living in a free country were the roads are paved and women are equal to men. This is a new experience to many of them. They have given very little back as of yet. Hopefully our tax dollars aren't going to waste and they will one day become important in our society. As it is now they given very little aside from the odd restaurant and corner shop.

Until they can come to realize that in order to be accepted they must dress like the rest of us and leave their fights where they came from I see very little improvement coming forth. It's sad that they'd rather make the rest of Canada uncomfortable other then embrace their new country and try to be like their hosts.

What is being said now used to be said about immigrants from Italy, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, etc. It was even said about immigrants from certain parts of London.

And guess what happened.

By the way... speaking of freedom. Why is it you clamour about how free we are then refuse to extend it to all?

[bjre]

It was only about mid 1980's that immigrants from poor countries were allowed to Canada en mass. So seeing that they've only been in Canada for 20 years or so they've contributed very little to the social fabric. 20 years versus hundreds of years is no contest. Many of them are still getting used to living in a free country were the roads are paved and women are equal to men. This is a new experience to many of them. They have given very little back as of yet. Hopefully our tax dollars aren't going to waste and they will one day become important in our society. As it is now they given very little aside from the odd restaurant and corner shop.

Until they can come to realize that in order to be accepted they must dress like the rest of us and leave their fights where they came from I see very little improvement coming forth. It's sad that they'd rather make the rest of Canada uncomfortable other then embrace their new country and try to be like their hosts.

That is very "Canadian" style comment: "problem belongs to others", "it is sad that has nothing to do with us", "you have to...".

-- Thanks god that at least your comment was not generated by an automatic answer system.

And it is about the new comers tax dollars wasted in a varsity of area because improper use by the politicians granted activities.

New immigrants work hard, take less, pay tax, suffers insurance companies and many other "services" protected by law.

And their initial education money is coming from their own "landing fee".

Edited May 16, 2009 by bjre

[Mr.Canada]

That is very "Canadian" style comment: "problem belongs to others", "it is sad that has nothing to do with us", "you have to...".

And it is about the new comers tax dollars wasted in a varsity of area because improper use by the politicians granted activities.

New immigrants work hard, take less, pay tax, suffers insurance companies and many other "services" protected by law.

And their initial education money is coming from their own "landing fee".

The landing taxes should be higher that way we could keep the undesirables out of Canada. Our immigration system needs to be made stricter. It should be hard to get into Canada. It should be a priviledge to live here not a free flowing sieve letting in criminals as we do now. We should only allow people in that can afford to support themselves instead of being a strain on our already strained public coffers. Especially in these trying economic times.

[CANADIEN]

It's sad that they'd rather make the rest of Canada uncomfortable other then embrace their new country and try to be like their hosts.

There are (unfortunately) some immigrants who are bigoted ignorants. Those are like you, so why do you whine about it?

[bjre]

The landing taxes should be higher that way we could keep the undesirables out of Canada. Our immigration system needs to be made stricter. It should be hard to get into Canada. It should be a priviledge to live here not a free flowing sieve letting in criminals as we do now. We should only allow people in that can afford to support themselves instead of being a strain on our already strained public coffers. Especially in these trying economic times.

Do you have the statistics of the criminal rate in new immigrants compare with at least the 2nd generation in Canada?

I believe it is the law and education system in Canada created more criminals.

And each new immigrant has to provide a no-criminal-record letter when he came. If new immigrants crime in Canada, that means it is Canada makes them becomes a criminal. Isn't that a system failure?

[Mr.Canada]

Do you have the statistics of the criminal rate in new immigrants compare with at least the 2nd generation in Canada?

I believe it is the law and education system in Canada created more criminals.

And each new immigrant has to provide a no-criminal-record letter when he came. If new immigrants crime in Canada, that means it is Canada makes them becomes a criminal. Isn't that a system failure?

When they break the law they should be microchipped and deported immediately so that they cannot get back in using false documents.

[CANADIEN]

When they break the law they should be microchipped and deported immediately so that they cannot get back in using false documents.

Mark the day. Something that makes sense coming from you.

Non-citizens that commit violent or major crimes should be kicked out.

[bjre]

When they break the law they should be microchipped and deported immediately so that they cannot get back in using false documents.

That is the Moral you talk about. Try to take from them, if fail, drive them away. If it is 200 years ago. I guess you would rather to catch more salves here. That is the human right in your mind.

Edited May 16, 2009 by bjre

[bjre]

When they break the law they should be microchipped and deported immediately so that they cannot get back in using false documents.

So, in the case of this topic. because the Asian kid broke the nose of the other kid, according to the Canadian criminal code. He can be defined as a criminal. according to your logic, he should be deported.

The Asian kid never crime before that, it is the environment in Canada make him do that.

The environment include the laws, the schools. He was not treat kindly, and he was bullied, the principal did not do anything on that before. (It is not his/her problem?)

However, Asian kid and his family is not weak, his father "runs the Keswick gym where Jack teaches young students.", So, he can be loved by many others.

And the racism topic can be used by politicians to fight each other.

If not for this 2 reasons, if Jack is just a worker's kid, can he be so lucky to be discharged?

When you know the principal was so confident to suggest the district to make the kid "expulsion from not just his school but his entire school district".

You can imagine how many other similar cases were handled.

So, it is still "their" problems? So the Canadians has no responsibility to improve the environment not only for the immigrants, but also for first nations, and many other weak people who contributed a lot to Canada but was bullied. Do they have any human right?

Actually, I didn't see any Moral in Canadian politicians. If they said so, it is just for immorally attacking their political rivals.

[lictor616]

And it goes downhill from there.

A small class of free mulattoes and Black existed in Haiti before the Revolution. But to say they were equal or quasi equal is to ignore the flurry of laws and customs that barred them from certain professions, lllimited their movments, forbade them from baring arms, etc. And nobody in their right mind would claim that slavery (the lot of the vast majoity of Blacks)was a form of equality.

Yje economuc success of pre-revolutionary Haiti had its dark side, a society founded on slavery and racial ineqality. Thaaat, and the destrictions and hatreds borne of the Revolution laid foundations for the misery that had been the lot of Haiti since the late 18th century.

Not to say, of course, that the SOCIAL and ECONOMIC failure has not to a large extent been inflicted by the post-independance Haitian society to itself (nice bit of usual dishonesty on your part, trying to pretent I meant the opposite),,, but the destruction of the economic structure started at the Revolution, and the seeds for that had been planted long before.

Some with a brain able of logical thinking instead of "one race good, another race genetically bad" delusion would see it.

Actually, most of the money went with the planters who left during the Revolution.

:lol:

? How much more ridiculous can you get?

A country that is 100% black .... can still have institutions that are racist towards blacks?!?!! Huh?"! What the hell are you smoking on?

There were black princes and Sovereigns and all manner of pompous titles given to blacks and mulattoes! Blacks were seen as brutish and dim witted by the french (in comparative standards to them) but remember the French (including the White men in Hispaniola- St- Domingue) were afflicted with Helvétius and Rousseauistic egalitarianism... most of the upper class believed in the "noble savage" nonsense and yes 40 years before the Revolution (despite being outnumbered 10 to 1 by blacks) the French began to loosen their grip on "the black man" and began equalizing themselves - the blacks finally revolted and killed ever white man woman and child.

And the post revolutionary economic failure is still the fault of white men!!? Even if no white men remained on the Island?

What is WRONG with you!?

And no: the "economic structure" was left UNTOUCHED! The blacks left in Haiti knew from observation all of the secrets of the sugar cane plating methods and irrigation techniques- they had EVERYTHING at their disposal at the end of the revolution! All the tools and techniques were right there... That the blacks "forgot" how to use these tools effectively is their fault and theirs alone... if a black man trips and falls in the streets of new york: it isn't automatically "whitey's fault". Stop this ridiculous blame-shifting trickery! have some decency please...

They had plows, shovels, brick factories, power plants, roads, agricultural know how, abundant water, horses and oxen, everything needed to make the economy work and flourish... but perhaps voodoo got in the way...

Excuse me: the money of the planters was in the form of sugar packed Europe-bound boats... and castles in Saint Domingue... all of that was taken by the blacks... Its not like the planters took the sugar plantations and Castles and art back with them to france (they died in haiti!)

god help you man... everything you say amounts to an attempt to defame and slander Europeans... and show them as inferiors to minority races...

and you call me a racist!?

you got a pair of brass balls I,ll give you that...

[lictor616]

What is being said now used to be said about immigrants from Italy, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, etc. It was even said about immigrants from certain parts of London.

And guess what happened.

By the way... speaking of freedom. Why is it you clamour about how free we are then refuse to extend it to all?

Not quite, there was prejudice against the Italians and Portuguese, but after all these were fellow Europeans, with languages, customs and mannerisms so similar to our own...

The gap between an Italian and a Frenchman is nothing when compared to the sundering abyss of a Bangladeshi say or a Medieval and squalid semitic desert people of Saudi Arabia or Palestine...

They were quite right to be pessimistic about that immigration though as they did pose problems of integration initially. But these did in fact INTEGRATE and made efforts to do so.

That cannot be said of the sneering and cackling Burka wearing, welfare hogging denizens of whatever Islamic pesthole in the world, who call us "ignorant" and "intolerant" because we don't have sharia law in Canada...

These do NOT want assimilation, and in fact OPPOSE IT... They want US to convert to THEIR way of thinking and doing things...

Correction: they want us to resort to THEIR FAILED ways, THEIR FAILED culture, their FAILED civilizationcraft...