Topaz Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/200...170251-sun.html I just wondering if any of the Ottawa citizens are "glowing" yet from the spill. Seriously, this can't be good and why keep it hushed up if there's nothing to worry about. Quote
Molly Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 Let me be the first one to point out the obvious: Isn't screw-up and cover-up pretty much what you have to expect when you override the safety regulator, as a matter of partisan politics? Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
M.Dancer Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 Mark this day on the calender....let banners be strung and trumpets sound...let all know that Topaz posted a working link Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Moonbox Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 Let me be the first one to point out the obvious: Isn't screw-up and cover-up pretty much what you have to expect when you override the safety regulator, as a matter of partisan politics? They overrode a Liberal-appointed safety regulator who every nuclear safety expert who weighed in on the subject believed to be overreacting HUGELY. The safety regulator, in this case, was a appointed bureaucrat loyal to the previous Liberal government. She did not have the support of ANY actual nuclear safety expert on the matter and that pretty much sums it up. I think the actual 'risk' to the Chalk River plant was if the biggest earthquake the world has ever had was suffered beneath it. For the regulator's scenario to unfold, not only would you have to have this massive earthquake, but you'd have to have virtually every safety feature in the plant fail and have the people working there be asleep and not do anything to shut the plant down. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Progressive Tory Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 What a Difference a year makes Boss of nuclear watchdog agency fired Ian MacLeod, Canwest News Service Published: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 OTTAWA -- The Harper government fired Linda Keen late last night as president of the embattled Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission.... follows a month of increasingly bitter and politicized rancour between Canada's nuclear watchdog and the country's primary nuclear operator, Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd. Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn directly blamed Keen for unnecessarily imposing November's closing of the Chalk River, Ont., nuclear reactor and the resulting shortage of life-saving medical isotopes for cancer and cardiac diagnosis and other treatment. Unnecessary closing? Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 I love how people like to blame PM Harper for everything. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Topaz Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Posted January 29, 2009 Mark this day on the calender....let banners be strung and trumpets sound...let all know that Topaz posted a working link I'm slowly learning new things Dance,I told you I was a novice on the computer, so be patient and if it doesn't work for me the next time, please be gentle!! Quote
Topaz Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Posted January 29, 2009 I love how people like to blame PM Harper for everything. Where does the buck stop?? At the PMO. No matter who was the PM when this happen, he holds the responsibility along with the minister. Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 Where does the buck stop?? At the PMO. No matter who was the PM when this happen, he holds the responsibility along with the minister. I was going to say the same thing. If Harper wants to lead the country, he has to take responsibility for the actions of his government. This one lands right on his doorstep. Again, if he's not up to the job.... Maybe he'll volunteer to clean up the puke from the cancer patients; victims of his neo-partisan policies. Surely, he's at least qualified to do that. He clearly can't govern. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Moonbox Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) I was going to say the same thing. If Harper wants to lead the country, he has to take responsibility for the actions of his government. This one lands right on his doorstep. Again, if he's not up to the job....Maybe he'll volunteer to clean up the puke from the cancer patients; victims of his neo-partisan policies. Surely, he's at least qualified to do that. He clearly can't govern. PT again you've failed to really make any point other than that you don't like Harper. You have all sorts of colorful words and clichés, but you just natter on friviolously. You'll take an excuse you can to criticize Harper, which is totally fine if you want to do that, but back it up if you want to be taken at all seriously. Like I wrote above, there were NO actual nuclear experts who deemed Chalk River an impending disaster. None of them are worried now either. A Liberal appointed BUREAUCRAT (as in she is in no way an expert in nuclear science) got fired for being an partisan idiot who tried to make a media spectacle about a practically non-existant safety threat. What a scandal..... Edited January 29, 2009 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
daniel Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) PT again you've failed to really make any point other than that you don't like Harper.You have all sorts of colorful words and clichés, but you just natter on friviolously. You'll take an excuse you can to criticize Harper, which is totally fine if you want to do that, but back it up if you want to be taken at all seriously. Like I wrote above, there were NO actual nuclear experts who deemed Chalk River an impending disaster. None of them are worried now either. A Liberal appointed BUREAUCRAT (as in she is in no way an expert in nuclear science) got fired for being an partisan idiot who tried to make a media spectacle about a practically non-existant safety threat. What a scandal..... Don't know what you're reading but I picked it up - Harper has to take responsibity for his actions. The rest of your posting is partisan opinion especially about the Chalk River inspector. Your argument is straight out of the Harper/Clement news releases at that time. Regardless of your opinion of her qualifications, the fact is as a nuclear inspector. she is more qualified than Harper/Clement who are politicians. Edited January 29, 2009 by daniel Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 PT again you've failed to really make any point other than that you don't like Harper. My point was in response to the suggestion that Harper is not responsible for what happens under his watch. As you probably know, Harry Truman kept a sign in his office "The Buck Stops Here". Clearly Harper's is 'It's Not My Fault'. Just because he, or even you for that matter, consider that she was nothing but a 'Liberal Bureaucrat', doesn't make it so. I stand by my original opinion. He had to at least know that there was something not right. Rather than just dismissing it out of hand, he should have brought in a few experts who weren't "Liberal Bureacrats', if he couldn't trust her opinion. The Buck stops there. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Alta4ever Posted January 29, 2009 Report Posted January 29, 2009 I love how people like to blame PM Harper for everything. Instead of bush derangement syndrom its Harper derangement system. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Progressive Tory Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Instead of bush derangement syndrom its Harper derangement system. Yes I know. And Ignatieff is an arrogant snob and Layton a joke. Sigh. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Smallc Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Yes I know. And Ignatieff is an arrogant snob and Layton a joke. Sigh. Don't forget the fascination that some on the right have with Trudeau. You'd swear he wasn't dead and was still the PM. Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Don't forget the fascination that some on the right have with Trudeau. You'd swear he wasn't dead and was still the PM. And Paul Martin and Jean Chretien. (Is Trudeau dead?) Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
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