Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Now you are in denial. This is what the court machinations are all about now.The sight of Gomery acting partisan has been addressed by the federal court. The Liberals survive. The same can't be said for the PCs which Mulroney destroyed. Funny that was it wasn't Justice Gomery talking though was it, nor was the higher courts decision as widely remebered by the general public, JC sitting in that chair is burned into the general public memory. Do you think I sound like Red Tory PEECEEr to you? That party needed to die they were as bad as the liberal party. The liberals survive on government handouts take those away and they would be bankrupt. The NDP and CPC could survive on their donations alone, but not the liberals. Edited January 27, 2009 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 The NDP and CPC could survive on their donations alone, but not the liberals. I'm not sure that's so true given that they now have a leader who can raise money. If they still are low on money now, that won't last. They are taking many actions to address it from what I have heard (consultants, funding drives, etc). Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 I'm not sure that's so true given that they now have a leader who can raise money. If they still are low on money now, that won't last. They are taking many actions to address it from what I have heard (consultants, funding drives, etc). Why wasn't Iggy raising money over the last 3 years? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 Why wasn't Iggy raising money over the last 3 years? He was....just not for Dion. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 He was....just not for Dion. So he only cares about the good of his party when he is leading it? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 So he only cares about the good of his party when he is leading it? If I were to guess...I would say....yes. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) What ever happened to Dion...I checked his Facebook space but no news...says he is still party leader: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephane-Dion/7874631159 Edited January 27, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 If I were to guess...I would say....yes. What a great leader. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 Also, people are less likely to donate to the party because Ignatieff is second in command than if he's the leader. I don't think that the Liberals will have near the fund raising trouble. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 Funny that was it wasn't Justice Gomery talking though was it, nor was the higher courts decision as widely remebered by the general public, JC sitting in that chair is burned into the general public memory. My bet is Jean Chretien is probably more popular than Harper is. Do you think I sound like Red Tory PEECEEr to you? That party needed to die they were as bad as the liberal party. Yet your leader was buddy buddy with Mulroney until very recently. The liberals survive on government handouts take those away and they would be bankrupt. The NDP and CPC could survive on their donations alone, but not the liberals. Liberal donations are recovering with a new leader. If you are really concerned about the taxpayer, you should ask Harper to reduce the cabinet to what it was in 2006. Hypocrites. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 1. My bet is Jean Chretien is probably more popular than Harper is.2. Yet your leader was buddy buddy with Mulroney until very recently. 3. Liberal donations are recovering with a new leader. If you are really concerned about the taxpayer, you should ask Harper to reduce the cabinet to what it was in 2006. Hypocrites. 1. Maybe in Quebec. 2. Harper can talk to who he wants, that doesn't effect were i fall on the political spectrum 3. I will make that suggestion to him if the liberals vote with the CPC to remove the 1.95 per vote. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 1. Maybe in Quebec. Maybe all of aside from a province or two. Seems to recall a poll on leaders past and present and Chretien still comes out well. 2. Harper can talk to who he wants, that doesn't effect were i fall on the political spectrum Apologist for the right? 3. I will make that suggestion to him if the liberals vote with the CPC to remove the 1.95 per vote. Baloney. You have not had a bad thing to say on any Tory spending even when it broke their own promise in every budget. It is in their platform and they have no shame about going past it. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 You have not had a bad thing to say on any Tory spending even when it broke their own promise in every budget. It is in their platform and they have no shame about going past it. Really is that so, I have had plenty to say, its just you don't remember it because it was all about removing wasteful social programs and funding. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 Really is that so, I have had plenty to say, its just you don't remember it because it was all about removing wasteful social programs and funding. Cite? And why support the Tories who broke their spending promises on even the easiest cuts? Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 Cite?And why support the Tories who broke their spending promises on even the easiest cuts? You can find it yourself, go back to budget time last year, and the pervious year, I was talking to you. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 You can find it yourself, go back to budget time last year, and the pervious year, I was talking to you. I don't believe a word you say. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 I don't believe a word you say. I really don't care what you beleive. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 I really don't care what you beleive. That is patently obvious. I ask for a cite and watch the dodging. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) That is patently obvious. I ask for a cite and watch the dodging. Whos dodging I don't really feel like reading through hundreds of pages of posts to satisfy you. The record is in this forum index, and if I felt you were worth the time of sifting back through all those posts, to find a post were I said I didn't support all of the spending by the CPC I would. But face it your just not worth the time or the effort. With that said good night, see you in another few days somebody around here has gotta work and pay some taxes for all those others to receive their entitlements. Edited January 27, 2009 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
fellowtraveller Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 Canada has not had an inheritance tax for about 30 years. They are an abomination. Inheritance taxes are different from capital gains taxes. Quote The government should do something.
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 Whos dodging I don't really feel like reading through hundreds of pages of posts to satisfy you. The record is in this forum index, and if I felt you were worth the time of sifting back through all those posts, to find a post were I said I didn't support all of the spending by the CPC I would. You can't even think of one area spending off the top of your head that you think should not have happened. If you felt that it was worth the time to show you did object, you would find a post to verify it or at least say where you think there should have been cuts now. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 Inheritance taxes are different from capital gains taxes. And yet it is possible, we might see an end to capital gains taxes in the next while too. Deficits are an abomination and Canada will have to address this if it continues to spend money as it does now. Quote
Molly Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 Yeah, but in the face of estate taxes, I'd work hard to make sure that I die penniless and a ward of the state. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
jdobbin Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Posted January 27, 2009 Yeah, but in the face of estate taxes, I'd work hard to make sure that I die penniless and a ward of the state. Without capital gains taxes or estate taxes, you'd likely have a bankrupt country and the value of your investments would make you penniless as well. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 27, 2009 Report Posted January 27, 2009 You can't even think of one area spending off the top of your head that you think should not have happened. If you felt that it was worth the time to show you did object, you would find a post to verify it or at least say where you think there should have been cuts now. You are a real moron aren't you, what don't you get about me being small c, I don't like the level of arts funding, the CBC funding should have been dropped among alot of other programs. You are deluded while I support the CPC it is because it is the most right of the mainstream options, not because I follow blindly. You on the other had seem to think that the liberals have this squeeky clean godly image. Which I am sorry to say has been tarnished many many years. The liberal party needs to disappear much like the PC's did, to have a pheonix rise from the ashes. For three years they couldn't even form an effective opposition, something at least Preston Manning could do. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
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