Melanie_ Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 To be fair when Catholics do wrong they only have to ask God for forgiveness. How convenient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 .Stay quiet Atheist. This a quibble between believers not hell bound heretics such as yourself. I will not stay quiet. What an abusive would-be tyrant you are. You are in no position to make demands. I'll continue replying to your posts as long as I want, thank you very much, and your every outburst will show you for the hateful, ridiculous fool you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 How convenient! Not really. Everyone does wrong. We can never expect anyone, religions or not to be perfect. I believe in God, and I talk to him all of the time. I even tell him that I'm sorry for things. I like to think that, if he's up there, he really does care and he really does understand that we are imperfect being simply trying to live our lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Found the red cross thing guys I know a lot of you want to know what Mr Canada was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_...f_the_Red_Cross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) How convenient! "Including Catholic doctrine?" "To be in the state of grace you must embrace what the Church embraces, you have to embrace the faith of the Church, and you're not free to receive the Eucharist if you don't embrace the faith of the Church. This is St. Paul, this is St. Justin, this is the whole history of the Church." SOURCE Edited February 5, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Only if they confess and make efforts not to commit the same sins over and over. For example you cannot perform abortions and partake in sodomy daily punked and expect to not be excommunicated. Name one person who has been excommunicated in the last 50 years there has been about 20 tops. It is a pretty big deal and the Church is scared to do it most of the time in fear of public outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Found the red cross thing guys I know a lot of you want to know what Mr Canada was talking abouthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_...f_the_Red_Cross Yes, that's it. Then after they were criticized they changed the totals or so goes the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 SOURCE You said everything should be questioned. I guess that must include statements saying that doctrine can't be questioned. If we follow your line of thinking, we can never believe anything, even definitive proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Name one person who has been excommunicated in the last 50 years there has been about 20 tops. It is a pretty big deal and the Church is scared to do it most of the time in fear of public outrage. I don't know any as the people I know are faithful Catholics. I don't hang out with grocery cart Catholics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 "Including Catholic doctrine?"SOURCE Regardless of what St. Justin says he wasn't the pope or Jesus so what he says does not matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Regardless of what St. Justin says he wasn't the pope or Jesus so what he says does not matter. We must honor the Saints as well. If it's a tough to accept teaching or unpopular teaching, that's a good signal of that being the correct teaching. Edited February 5, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I don't know any as the people I know are faithful Catholics. I don't hang out with grocery cart Catholics. Funny cause I hang out with all Catholics becuase we are all brothers and sisters. Jesus taught me that one. He also taught me a little things about being judged. He taught about the meek. A lot of great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 .Stay quiet Atheist. This a quibble between believers not hell bound heretics such as yourself. He's either an atheist or an heretic. Not both. Make up your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Funny cause I hang out with all Catholics becuase we are all brothers and sisters. Jesus taught me that one. He also taught me a little things about being judged. He taught about the meek. A lot of great stuff. I have nothing in common with people who want to see homosexuals sodomizing each other in the pews, homosexuals being married and abortions being performed in the Church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Scary stuff you're dealing with...I think I understand your concerns now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) We must honor the Saints as well. If it's a tough to accept teaching or unpopular teaching, that's a good signal of that being the correct teaching. Saints become so becuase they did good in a region they preformed miracles, and displayed Catholic virtues. We however are not suppose to take their word as cannon. This articles is just quoting Saint Justin Martyr becuase he said what they wanted to write. Justin also claimed in his time the world would end, and that the prophesies were being fulfilled in front of his eyes. Edited February 5, 2009 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Yes, that's it. Then after they were criticized they changed the totals or so goes the story. Some people, when criticized for being wrong, start being right. You, on the other hand, kep being more and more in the wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Scary stuff you're dealing with...I think I understand your concerns now. I'm glad you finally understand the dire consequences involved and what's at stake. It must be resisted at all costs, even if it costs me my life. I will die in His name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I threw it out there as a possibility, that's all. We must question everything. Including truths acknowledged by the Church? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have nothing in common with people who want to see homosexuals sodomizing each other in the pews, homosexuals being married and abortions being performed in the Church. Great me either accept for the married thing cause you know Gay weddings are a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_ Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I don't see any reference to this in this thread, so here's today's update on Bishop Williamson... Bishop ordered to recant Holocaust denial In the face of a global political backlash that threatened to isolate Pope Benedict XVI and alienate liberal Roman Catholics around the world, the Vatican has ordered an ultra-traditionalist bishop to recant his denial of the Holocaust if he wants to serve in the church.The order was delivered Wednesday to Richard Williamson, one of four members of the breakaway Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) who, in 1988, were excommunicated when they were ordained as bishops without the permission of then Pope John Paul II. Bishop Williamson has a long history of Holocaust denial. He reiterated his views in a television broadcast on Jan. 21, three days before the Vatican's decree to lift the excommunications was made public. “Bishop Williamson, for admission to Episcopal functions in the Church, must declare, in an absolutely unequivocal and public way, distance from his positions regarding the Shoah,” the Vatican statement said, using the Hebrew word for the Holocaust. Why would he be reinstated in the church when he was still denying the Holocaust three days previously? And was he really a bishop - is sounds like JPII didn't think so - he was excommunicated because he was ordained without the papal blessing. Man, there's more politics in religion than there is religion in politics (and that's saying a lot)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I know you two clowns(punked, CANADIEN) are just trying to wind me up, I have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_ Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have nothing in common with people who want to see homosexuals sodomizing each other in the pews, homosexuals being married and abortions being performed in the Church. I'd like to see abortions being performed in hospitals, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I know you two clowns(punked, CANADIEN) are just trying to wind me up, I have to go. I have been nothing but serious this whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have nothing in common with people who want to see homosexuals sodomizing each other in the pews, homosexuals being married and abortions being performed in the Church. I know some liberal Catholics, I know some Conservative Catholics. Some of the Liberal ones may favour recognition of homosexual marriages or free choice on abortion. I've not met a single one yet who wants sodomy in the pews (eeven though there are a few bishops and cardinals who have helped priests who did such things go unpunished). And I most certainly never met anyone who suggested that aobrtions should be performed in church buildings. Lying by exaggeration... Typical Mr. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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