Ontario Loyalist Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) I've been instructed to edit my signature due to length and content. Given that my signature is only six lines, the problem evidently really stems from the content, but no specific reason is given as to what aspect of the content is the problem. I feel that the content of my signature is a legitimate expression of personal opinion and that the attempt to force me to remove or alter parts of it are a violation of my right to free speech and personal expression. Edited January 24, 2009 by Ontario Loyalist Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
guyser Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 ...to force me to remove or alter parts of it are a violation of my right to free speech and personal expression. Funny thing about free speech. When you are in a private house, the rules dont apply. Their house, their rules
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Posted January 24, 2009 Funny thing about free speech. When you are in a private house, the rules dont apply.Their house, their rules Clarify what parts of the following are against "house rules"? "They don’t pay me enough to listen to you tell me what I have to do" -- Timothy "Timmer" Sywyk, anti-Caledonia anarchist.Stolen vehicles recovered on Six Nations: 514 (2005); 511 (2006); 558 (2007); 718 (2008)... The Gay Rights Movement is to Western Civilization what the Nazi Movement was to Germany. Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
guyser Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Clarify what parts of the following are against "house rules"? OK. Any of the parts they dont want to see in a sig line.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Funny thing about free speech. When you are in a private house, the rules dont apply.Their house, their rules Bingo. "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 OK.Any of the parts they dont want to see in a sig line. No, I'm asking YOU what YOU think the problem is with the CONTENT of my signature... Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Smallc Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) The Gay Rights Movement is to Western Civilization what the Nazi Movement was to Germany. Edited January 25, 2009 by Smallc
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) The moderator can explain themseelves what they want removed from your signature. As for myself, I sure do hope they are not talking about this: The Gay Rights Movement is to Western Civilization what the Nazi Movement was to Germany. I want that one to remain. No better proof of your homophobia and hatred. I'd say it's worthy of the toilet, but I am afraid that the toilet would sue me for diffamation. Edited January 25, 2009 by CANADIEN
Mr.Canada Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 The moderator can explain themseelves what they want removed from your signature.As for myself, I sure do hope they are not talking about this: I want that one to remain. No better proof of your homophobia and hatred. I'd say it's worthy of the toilet, but I am afraid that the toilet would sue me for diffamation. This from the wannabe Catholic. Catholics are against homosexual acts not for them. "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Peter F Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 This from the wannabe Catholic. Catholics are against homosexual acts not for them. But the line of your sig doesn't speak of homosexual acts but of Gay rights. Is the Pope opposed to those too? A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
gc1765 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Catholics are against homosexual acts not for them. And how would Catholics compare homosexual acts to...say....Nazism?? Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 This from the wannabe Catholic. Catholics are against homosexual acts not for them. Once again, you must have missed the postings where I said that homosexual acts are sinful. Reading does not seem to be your stronger skill when it stands in the way of your homophobia. Now, to quote one of your favorite lines, let's get back to the topic. Like it or not, gays have the right to be treated as full and equal citizens. Further, the Cathechism of the Catholic Church states that there should be no unjust discrimination against them. To compare calls for equal rights for homosexuals to what the Nazis did is beyond contemptable, and unworthy of a Christian. Considering that you were willing to accept claims that the nazis killed less than 1 million Jews, your support for that kind of statement comes to no surprise.
Mr.Canada Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Once again, you must have missed the postings where I said that homosexual acts are sinful. Reading does not seem to be your stronger skill when it stands in the way of your homophobia.Now, to quote one of your favorite lines, let's get back to the topic. Like it or not, gays have the right to be treated as full and equal citizens. Further, the Cathechism of the Catholic Church states that there should be no unjust discrimination against them. To compare calls for equal rights for homosexuals to what the Nazis did is beyond contemptable, and unworthy of a Christian. Considering that you were willing to accept claims that the nazis killed less than 1 million Jews, your support for that kind of statement comes to no surprise. Yeah, I was mistaken about that and am sorry CANADIEN. I got you mixed up with one poster who says he's Catholic but likes homosexual acts and abortion. Again, sorry. "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 one poster who says he's Catholic but likes homosexual acts and abortion. That would be me, and I never said that I liked abortion. I do however think that its none of my business.
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 I want that one to remain. No better proof of your homophobia and hatred. I'd say it's worthy of the toilet, but I am afraid that the toilet would sue me for diffamation. I'm sorry, but I think that you've been brainwashed into using "homophobia" in a reactionary manner. The gay rights movement is an ideologically based movement bent on changing society to suit their political and social outlook. In that respect, it is complete open to criticism and challenge just like any other ideologically based movement. Personally, I believe that the gay rights movement is to Western Civilization's detriment (just as homosexuality was a detriment to certain ancient civilizations like the Spartans and Imperial Rome) and see a modern parallel in the spread of the "gay rights" ideology in the Nazi movement in 1930s. I should state, though, that Nazism existed throughout the western world, too, until the outbreak of WWII. Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Mr.Canada Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 I'm sorry, but I think that you've been brainwashed into using "homophobia" in a reactionary manner. The gay rights movement is an ideologically based movement bent on changing society to suit their political and social outlook. In that respect, it is complete open to criticism and challenge just like any other ideologically based movement. Personally, I believe that the gay rights movement is to Western Civilization's detriment (just as homosexuality was a detriment to certain ancient civilizations like the Spartans and Imperial Rome) and see a modern parallel in the spread of the "gay rights" ideology in the Nazi movement in 1930s. I should state, though, that Nazism existed throughout the western world, too, until the outbreak of WWII. OL, we agree on many issues but that line of the sig is in bad taste more than anything else and using the term in some way minimizes the horror and atrocities which occurred during WWII. "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Yeah, I was mistaken about that and am sorry CANADIEN. I got you mixed up with one poster who says he's Catholic but likes homosexual acts and abortion. Again, sorry. Accepted
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 I'm sorry, but I think that you've been brainwashed into using "homophobia" in a reactionary manner. The gay rights movement is an ideologically based movement bent on changing society to suit their political and social outlook. In that respect, it is complete open to criticism and challenge just like any other ideologically based movement. Personally, I believe that the gay rights movement is to Western Civilization's detriment (just as homosexuality was a detriment to certain ancient civilizations like the Spartans and Imperial Rome) and see a modern parallel in the spread of the "gay rights" ideology in the Nazi movement in 1930s. I should state, though, that Nazism existed throughout the western world, too, until the outbreak of WWII. recognizing the homophobia in what you write is not being brainwashed, it's seeing it for what it is. The goal of the Gay Rights movement is to obtain equality before the law for gays and lesbians. The same with the civil rgiths movement aimed for equality for Blacks. Perhaps it too compares to Nazism? The Nazi ideology was the most vile in history, based on pure hatred. It was responsible for the murder of 9 to 11 people. This is what you compare the gay rights movement too. Even the kindiest word I could think of to describe what I think of your opinion would likely be against the rules of the site.
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 OL, we agree on many issues but that line of the sig is in bad taste more than anything else and using the term in some way minimizes the horror and atrocities which occurred during WWII. I disagree that it minimizes what happened during WWII. My signature refers to the Nazi movememt, ie. what happened between 1924 and 1933 when people thought that it was an ideology of change and progresses. We do not know what a gay society will entail, but we do know that homosexuality is high risk and self-destructive, and that a society governed by gay ideals will likely go into decline. Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Mr.Canada Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 recognizing the homophobia in what you write is not being brainwashed, it's seeing it for what it is.The goal of the Gay Rights movement is to obtain equality before the law for gays and lesbians. The same with the civil rgiths movement aimed for equality for Blacks. Perhaps it too compares to Nazism? The Nazi ideology was the most vile in history, based on pure hatred. It was responsible for the murder of 9 to 11 people. This is what you compare the gay rights movement too. Even the kindiest word I could think of to describe what I think of your opinion would likely be against the rules of the site. Homosexuals have equal rights now so the struggle is over imo. Disagreeing with the homosexual lobby on a piece of their policy and wanting discussion isn't homophobia, it's democracy. I hope you aren't suggesting we have to accept anything they say fully without disagreement. "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 recognizing the homophobia in what you write is not being brainwashed, it's seeing it for what it is.The goal of the Gay Rights movement is to obtain equality before the law for gays and lesbians. The same with the civil rgiths movement aimed for equality for Blacks. Perhaps it too compares to Nazism? Yeah, you see, you are brainwashed, because you've done it AGAIN. Ideological movements always purport to champion equality, but they never do; they always claim to stand for what is right and just, but they in the end they are the opposite. This is what the Nazis did, what the Maoists, Communists, did--you name it. Also, it's a common tactic by the gay rights movement to compare themselves to the civil rights movement for blacks--but being born a skin colour isn't an ideology. So there's no connection. The Nazi ideology was the most vile in history, based on pure hatred. It was responsible for the murder of 9 to 11 people. This is what you compare the gay rights movement too. Even the kindiest word I could think of to describe what I think of your opinion would likely be against the rules of the site. Well, I think the Nazis murdered more than 9 to 11 people, but whatever the case, I think that you fail to recognize the truth about Nazism. I think that anyone who has studies the Nazi movement can tell you that the Nazis were not "pure evil". There was certainly an element of evil in their ideology stemming from strong occult and quack sceience influences, but the Nazis were actually quite deceptive and in some respects did sincerely attempt to improve the social and economic staus of Germans. That's all part of the deception, and why they were able to delude so many people and succeed. In other words, very few people at the time really understood what the Nazis stood for, what the ultimate results of their policies would be. That's why we always need to be vigilant about such subtly deceptive ideological movements--like the gay rights movement. Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 Homosexuals have equal rights now so the struggle is over imo. Disagreeing with the homosexual lobby on a piece of their policy and wanting discussion isn't homophobia, it's democracy. I hope you aren't suggesting we have to accept anything they say fully without disagreement. Yes, that is what he means, and that's what I mean by comparing the GRM to the Nazis. Once these people are in place, have power and authority, control the government and media, then there will be no discussion about this issue unless you want to suffer the consequences. Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 I disagree that it minimizes what happened during WWII. My signature refers to the Nazi movememt, ie. what happened between 1924 and 1933 when people thought that it was an ideology of change and progresses. We do not know what a gay society will entail, but we do know that homosexuality is high risk and self-destructive, and that a society governed by gay ideals will likely go into decline. Nice try. Those who in the 1920's and 1930's thought the Nazi ideology was one of progress either dismissed its inherent racism as inconsequential or actively espoused it. Homosexual acts carry a higher risk, and some homosexuals are self-destructive (in large part, because of self-hatred inflicted on them by the likes of you). But there is quite a different between knowing that fact and ranting that we are on the verge of a "gay society" with a "gay ideal". There is no such thing as a gay society. There is a society where gays are not treated like second class citizens. As for the so-called "gay ideal"; I'd like to know when and where gays have advocated that heterosexuals should become gays. Let me check... that's what I thought, never.
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Yeah, you see, you are brainwashed, because you've done it AGAIN. :lol: Don't worry, brainwashed is something that I am not about to accuse you of being. it's a common tactic by the gay rights movement to compare themselves to the civil rights movement for blacks--but being born a skin colour isn't an ideology. Being gay isn't an ideology either. The idea that Blacks should have equal right was and is an ideology. Well, I think the Nazis murdered more than 9 to 11 people, but whatever the case, I think that you fail to recognize the truth about Nazism. I think that anyone who has studies the Nazi movement can tell you that the Nazis were not "pure evil". There was certainly an element of evil in their ideology stemming from strong occult and quack sceience influences, but the Nazis were actually quite deceptive and in some respects did sincerely attempt to improve the social and economic staus of Germans. That's all part of the deception, and why they were able to delude so many people and succeed. In other words, very few people at the time really understood what the Nazis stood for, what the ultimate results of their policies would be. That's why we always need to be vigilant about such subtly deceptive ideological movements--like the gay rights movement. The racism and hatred in the Nazi ideology was right there for everyone to see. People decided to turn a blind eye to it. For people to see some dark attempt at destroying society (and who knows, turning everyone into gays?) in the struggle for equality before the law, that kind of thing would have to be there in the first place. BTW, demonizing the object of hatred with claims like "they gonna destroy us", "they want to control us", "they're the ennemy" was a characteristic of the Nazi ideology. I am not surprised that you adopt the same modus operandi. Edited January 25, 2009 by CANADIEN
CANADIEN Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Yes, that is what he means, and that's what I mean by comparing the GRM to the Nazis. Once these people are in place, have power and authority, control the government and media, then there will be no discussion about this issue unless you want to suffer the consequences. The last refuge of the hateful. The same people who would trample without hesitation on other peoples' rights whine about being persecuted whenever anyone dares to tell them what they think. And don't serve me the "what about human rights tribunals" thing. No opinion should be banned unless it advocates murder.
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