Group wants to put atheist ads on Toronto transit buses

[GostHacked]

Deep down inside every atheist, when they're all alone, there is a little part of them that knows they could be wrong.

You are correct. We could be wrong. But why spend our lives worrying about it as opposed to actually living our lives. I got more important things to concentrate on than worrying about if I am going to hell or now. Which the idea seems ludicrus to me, because life on this earth can be complete hell for many.

I get lonely sometimes, as do most people. However, I am never 'alone' I have myself.

I have more 'faith' in humanity to destroy itself than 'faith' in a god that will provide me with eternal bliss.... that's only if I susbscribe to the RIGHT religion and be 'faithfull' to it .. which according to South Park .. is the Mormons. Dumb de dumb dumb dumb.

[Mr.Canada]

Taking your spiritual advice from a cartoon is never a good idea.

[Molly]

And that one can be reversed on you, too, Mr. Canada, without effort.

If the tale of Superman was placed in the row of deity myths, it could only be separated out by virtue of being less complex, and more reality-based than most. They are all cartoons, unless you suspend disbeleif.

[Mr.Canada]

I cannot wait to read the Muslim Ads on Sharia Law in Canada being good as it is in Saudi Arabia. You Atheists are missing that point. Muslims are much more anti-homosexual than a Christian could ever be. Muslims are still hanging them in Iran almost daily yet you stand with them for some reason I don't get it.

[BigAl]

Deep down inside every atheist, when they're all alone, there is a little part of them that knows they could be wrong.

I would point out, Mr. Canada, that deep down inside every religious or spiritual person, there is a little part of them that questions their faith as well. None of us can be certain beyond all doubt of anything in this life, other than the absolute certainty of death. What comes after is very much open to interpretation. but I think religion is less about "what happens when we die" and more about "how do we conduct ourselves while we're alive". Good people are good people, Jesus notwithstanding, in my devout opinion.

[cybercoma]

I cannot wait to read the Muslim Ads on Sharia Law in Canada being good as it is in Saudi Arabia. You Atheists are missing that point. Muslims are much more anti-homosexual than a Christian could ever be. Muslims are still hanging them in Iran almost daily yet you stand with them for some reason I don't get it.

We're not talking about Iran. We're not talking about Sharia Law usurping Canadian laws. Clearly, you have absolutely no understanding of the issues being debated, other than an unadulterated ethnocentric hatred for anything that doesn't painfully squeeze itself into your incredibly myopic world-view.

[Oleg Bach]

We're not talking about Iran. We're not talking about Sharia Law usurping Canadian laws. Clearly, you have absolutely no understanding of the issues being debated, other than an unadulterated ethnocentric hatred for anything that doesn't painfully squeeze itself into your incredibly myopic world-view.

God is faith and faith is hope - what right does anyone have to take away the only wealth that a person really has - his hope...what do the atheists have to offer me? Sharia Law...is barbaric...so is our law and any upsurping really does not matter - untill I see justice in Canada for all - they can kiss my ass.

[CANADIEN]

I cannot wait to read the Muslim Ads on Sharia Law in Canada being good as it is in Saudi Arabia. You Atheists are missing that point. Muslims are much more anti-homosexual than a Christian could ever be. Muslims are still hanging them in Iran almost daily yet you stand with them for some reason I don't get it.

You don't get it one bit. For once, we agree on one thing.

[ToadBrother]

God is faith and faith is hope - what right does anyone have to take away the only wealth that a person really has - his hope...what do the atheists have to offer me?

I wasn't aware we had to offer you anything.

[kimmy]

I wasn't aware we had to offer you anything.

Ever see the movie "True Romance"? There's a scene where Christian Slater goes to free the hooker from her pimp. He hands the pimp an envelope, and tells him that's what he's willing to pay to settle things. The pimp opens the envelope, and it's empty. It's his way of standing right in front of him, saying "you don't deserve a damned thing, so up yours."

That's what I offer Oleg.

-k

[jdobbin]

Looks like Ottawa might not be running the atheist ads.

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/02/1...219-busads.html

An ad calling into question the existence of God won't board Ottawa buses for the time being.

Ignoring the advice of its chairman, the city's transit committee has voted not to overturn a staff decision to ban an ad campaign that had raised ripples in the city since it first popped up in England last month.

The ad, sponsored by the Freethought Association of Canada, says, "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

I wonder if it is only Christians who are allowed to run ads. It seems one of the Christian city councilors if offended by anything else.

[Oleg Bach]

Looks like Ottawa might not be running the atheist ads.

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/02/1...219-busads.html

I wonder if it is only Christians who are allowed to run ads. It seems one of the Christian city councilors if offended by anything else.

There are no Christians. The movement died with it's founder...just traces are left behind - and convolutions and politicalization of the old doctrine. As for the damned atheists....they are a clever bunch...I have seen them call themselves believers- agnostics - and libertarians all in the same week. Give a atheist zealot power and he will pay god....and not being a god he will make horrible mistakes and will abuse no different than the traditional lunitic fundamentalist.

[eyeball]

As for the damned atheists....they are a clever bunch...I have seen them call themselves believers- agnostics - and libertarians all in the same week. Give a atheist zealot power and he will pay god....and not being a god he will make horrible mistakes and will abuse no different than the traditional lunitic fundamentalist.

I can't believe you really believe this.

[Oleg Bach]

I can't believe you really believe this.

Key word "believe" - no not totally. Same as I do not believe that intelligent religious people are all zealots and abusers of their fellow humans - but what I know for sure about the few atheists that I have known - is that some of them are more holy and good than nominal Christians - and others - are horrific monsters who embrace evil and do not play by any set of binding rules.

We keep thinking that atheists are some sort of untainted group of wonderful people - who are free thinkers and do not need to have religion to understand what good is --- But a human problem sometimes arises..that the definition of good is twisted to suit political and individual personal needs - to some - it is good to eat all the food and leave the rest hungry - or it is good to abuse other humans sexually because if feels good...atheists presentations publically seem to be following a trend - that relgion is bad - the dellusional idea of God is bad - and that they have the answer ----

How am I to know which atheist is dellusional - which one is rebelious and simply hates the idea of a God authority over them - or which one is truely logical and intellectually sound enough to know what good is - apparently they can not grasp the concept of God - maybe they can not full grasp what good is --- time will tell - But as man made religion caused havoc in the world - man made atheism may do the same. Religion is man generated - Atheism certainly is ------

------- I prefer the mystery - and to hold the thought that life and eternity is no fully understandable - and I am not fully aware - so why take chances - let the universe send wisdom and power - The atheist is on his own --- If you view the corpse of an atheist freshly dead and the body of a believer - the atheist always looks monsterous....why is that?

[eyeball]

If you view the corpse of an atheist freshly dead and the body of a believer - the atheist always looks monsterous....why is that?

Damned if I know. That's the wierdest thing I've ever heard.

[Oleg Bach]

Damned if I know. That's the wierdest thing I've ever heard.

Not totally sure of that one either. My son and I watched a very disturbing documentary about 10 dying people -- it starts with them walking about and fairly strong.. They were all interviewed systemically as time progressed and they became more ill - there were the hard nose atheists - who seemed cold hopeless and nasty - and there were people who believed in something --- This was a very graphic portral of a group of humans slowly dying. They actually filmed the last breath of each individual - then after an hour or so did close ups of the varied corpses -- I could not help but be astounded how beautiful and serene the believers appeared - and what was striking was that the faces of the atheist - well --- their mouths were all agape and the experssion was one of horror..and sheer uglyness....so this may not be full proof that atheism is inferiour - but it was proof that lovers make better corpses than haters.

[WIP]

We keep thinking that atheists are some sort of untainted group of wonderful people - who are free thinkers and do not need to have religion to understand what good is --- But a human problem sometimes arises..that the definition of good is twisted to suit political and individual personal needs - to some - it is good to eat all the food and leave the rest hungry - or it is good to abuse other humans sexually because if feels good...atheists presentations publically seem to be following a trend - that relgion is bad - the dellusional idea of God is bad - and that they have the answer ----

I doubt it will ever sink in, since you've been told a number of times before by many different people that atheism is not a belief system, but instead an expression of disbelief in gods and supernatural entities.

Now how an atheist treats others (which I'm assuming is the point of this paragraph) depends on their character and what principles they believe in and act by -- so we would have to know if we are talking about humanists, Marxists, Ayn Rand Objectivists, existential nihilists etc. before we can guess how they will act.

[Chuck U. Farlie]

WIP, I found it best, quite a while ago already, to just put Oleg on ignore and not bother to read his drivel.

To do so, in case anyone doesn't know, click his name - click view profile - click options - click ignore user.

[cybercoma]

There are no Christians. The movement died with it's founder...

The founder was Jewish. There very much are Christians.

[WIP]

WIP, I found it best, quite a while ago already, to just put Oleg on ignore and not bother to read his drivel.

To do so, in case anyone doesn't know, click his name - click view profile - click options - click ignore user.

Thanks, I know about the ignore feature, though I've never used it -- even against a former member who shall remain nameless. Oleg seems to be sincere in his convoluted ideas; it just gets a little frustrating seeing the same points recycled over and over again, with no attempt to defend them when they are challenged.

[Oleg Bach]

Thanks, I know about the ignore feature, though I've never used it -- even against a former member who shall remain nameless. Oleg seems to be sincere in his convoluted ideas; it just gets a little frustrating seeing the same points recycled over and over again, with no attempt to defend them when they are challenged.

If I present convolutions sorry about that..could be the high rate of vacilation that takes place in this double mind of mine. We are all making an attempt at sincerety...hopefully the little bit of what some percieve as twisted can easily be made straight and logical and useful. When I am tuned by a good explanatory - I am thankful.. I do like to learn if someone cares enough to teach...then some like to disgard and marginalize with a single word - convolution...to imply that would mean that my intentions are to confuse. I do not see the profit in that.

[WIP]

If I present convolutions sorry about that..could be the high rate of vacilation that takes place in this double mind of mine.

No harm done! It's just that I can't always figure out what you are trying to get across.

We are all making an attempt at sincerety...hopefully the little bit of what some percieve as twisted can easily be made straight and logical and useful. When I am tuned by a good explanatory - I am thankful.. I do like to learn if someone cares enough to teach...then some like to disgard and marginalize with a single word - convolution...to imply that would mean that my intentions are to confuse. I do not see the profit in that.

Convoluted is usually used to describe a statement or explanation that is unnecessarily complicated or intricate; it can sometimes imply that someone is being intentionally deceptive, but that's not what I meant.