M.Dancer Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Got one of those 10%ers in the mail today from Jack Layton. Quite funny really. The Headline ScreamS... iS YOUR LIBERAL MP PROPPING UP STEPHEN HARPER? Then goes on about the Liberals supporting the conservative agenda of abandoning families and cities.... Too funny ....annother gem from the bankrupt NDP braintrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Got one of those 10%ers in the mail today from Jack Layton.Quite funny really. The Headline ScreamS... iS YOUR LIBERAL MP PROPPING UP STEPHEN HARPER? Then goes on about the Liberals supporting the conservative agenda of abandoning families and cities.... Too funny ....annother gem from the bankrupt NDP braintrust HAHAHAHAHA the Liberals are starting to eat in the polls amlost every poll over the last two weeks has them losing Ontario by as much or more then last election AND they are the Toronto party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 HAHAHAHAHA the Liberals are starting to eat in the polls amlost every poll over the last two weeks has them losing Ontario by as much or more then last election AND they are the Toronto party. Lets hope. Torontonians are smart. They can see that the prudent policies of the Harper government has navigated Canada through the recession and we've passed through far less burduned than our trading partners.....they should be rearded with a majority. .. that and Dr Bennett's time to retire was when her hubris caused her to think she could be the PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 And the Liberals are pulling those strong Dion numbers in Quebec that got them soooooo many seats in the new Crop poll. Iggy is done no one likes him now. Crop Quebec poll: (Remember in Quebec crop was right on the money last election) Bloc Quebecois - 33% Liberals - 26% Conservatives - 21% New Democrats - 13% Greens - unknown, but 7% remains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Per usual you ignore the facts that contradict your view that the NDP can do no wrong and all actions they undertake regardless of how much of a flip flop, or hypocritical they are, are beyond repute. The LPC has stayed in and around the 30% mark on average. If we average the NDP it's lower then there election results. Low mark being 12% the high around 18%, that puts them around their traditional 15% mark. I guess this goes to show that the NDP should focus on showing the electorate that they do stand by their principles rather than bad mouthing the LPC all the time. The NDP are supposed to be an opposition party, yet they've apparently lost their appetite to oppose and their support will only suffer over the long term as a result. If the rank and file think going into an election broke is a good idea, then the NDP have bigger problems than Layton backing the Tories right now. The NDP leadership have always had a problem managing expectations, and Layton is proving no exception. What he's doing, from the point of view Parliamentary strategy, is maneuvering the NDP into the most influential position it's had since the early 1960s. Say what you will about the guy, but he's simultaneously avoiding an election he knows can only do his party harm, and managing to have some influence on legislation that directly deals with workers, supposedly the NDP's stock and trade. That's two pretty big pluses by any standard. But if there was ever a party that feared success and punished winners, it's the Federal NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Lets hope. Torontonians are smart. They can see that the prudent policies of the Harper government has navigated Canada through the recession and we've passed through far less burduned than our trading partners.....they should be rearded with a majority. Prudent? I wouldn't exactly call the Tory's economic policy over the last five years an example of prudence. Baird may actually be one of the most incompetent Finance Ministers in recent memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 And the Liberals are pulling those strong Dion numbers in Quebec that got them soooooo many seats in the new Crop poll. Iggy is done no one likes him now.Crop Quebec poll: (Remember in Quebec crop was right on the money last election) Bloc Quebecois - 33% Liberals - 26% Conservatives - 21% New Democrats - 13% Greens - unknown, but 7% remains Scott Reid, who was director of communications for former prime minister Paul Martin, said the Liberals are actually doing worse than the polls show. http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1145126.html I tend to agree with Mr. Reid on that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Latest Ekos numbers... Not really much of a change for last time. http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2009...october-1-2009/ Conservatives: 36.0 (-1.0)Liberals: 29.7 (-0.2) NDP: 13.9 (+0.1) Green: 10.5 (+0.3) Bloc Quebecois (in Quebec): 39.6 (+3.2) Undecided: 14.3 (-1.3) The Bloc appear to have risen in the last weeks. Everyone else has stabilized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Prudent? I wouldn't exactly call the Tory's economic policy over the last five years an example of prudence.Baird may actually be one of the most incompetent Finance Ministers in recent memory. or Flaherty... but you you are right. Deficit Jim is working his magic just like he did here in Ontario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 or Flaherty... but you you are right. Deficit Jim is working his magic just like he did here in Ontario Yah almost as bad as Deficit Dwight coming in at a record setting 18.5 billion dollar deficit. Good fiscal record to run on Liberals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Apparently there is an Angus Reid Poll out today with the following numbers. The vote came on a day when a new poll showed little change in voters' preferences. The Angus Reid/Toronto Star poll showed the Conservatives at 37 per cent, Liberals at 27 per cent, NDP at 17 per cent, Bloc Quebecois at 11 per cent and Greens at 6 per cent. The poll of 1,000 Canadians was done Tuesday and Wednesday and is considered accurate within 3.1 per cent, 19 times out of 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Apparently there is an Angus Reid Poll out today with the following numbers.The vote came on a day when a new poll showed little change in voters' preferences. The Angus Reid/Toronto Star poll showed the Conservatives at 37 per cent, Liberals at 27 per cent, NDP at 17 per cent, Bloc Quebecois at 11 per cent and Greens at 6 per cent. The poll of 1,000 Canadians was done Tuesday and Wednesday and is considered accurate within 3.1 per cent, 19 times out of 20. Ouch I thought Dion was the Liberals bottom. They keep this up and the Conservatives will win every ridding. I think because the NDP voters wont be scared away from the party the Liberals might want to vote strategically for the NDP this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Apparently there is an Angus Reid Poll out today with the following numbers.The vote came on a day when a new poll showed little change in voters' preferences. The Angus Reid/Toronto Star poll showed the Conservatives at 37 per cent, Liberals at 27 per cent, NDP at 17 per cent, Bloc Quebecois at 11 per cent and Greens at 6 per cent. The poll of 1,000 Canadians was done Tuesday and Wednesday and is considered accurate within 3.1 per cent, 19 times out of 20. What are the polls looking like in Quebec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 What are the polls looking like in Quebec? These are Crop polls from yesterday and taken prior to the Outremont incident. Crop Quebec poll: (Remember in Quebec crop was right on the money last election) Bloc Quebecois - 33% Liberals - 26% Conservatives - 21% New Democrats - 13% Greens - unknown, but 7% remains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yah almost as bad as Deficit Dwight coming in at a record setting 18.5 billion dollar deficit. Good fiscal record to run on Liberals I'm sorry... Was the economic climate as bad when Deficit Jim was an MPP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm sorry... Was the economic climate as bad when Deficit Jim was an MPP? Ok so the economy is only excuse when Liberals use it. OK gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Ok so the economy is only excuse when Liberals use it. OK gotcha. 55B + 26(?)B.... thats one hell of a deficit. That, plus his performance ripping Ontario's purse to bits earns him the name.... rightfully. What do we have to show for it again? Edited October 1, 2009 by Shakeyhands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 55B + 26(?)B.... thats one hell of a deficit.That, plus his performance ripping Ontario's purse to bits earns him the name.... rightfully. What do we have to show for it again? 14.4 billion +4.2......... Billion that is also one hell of a deficit. Might have almost wondering why the Liberal Finance minister in Ontario was defending the Federal Conservatives and Jim last week eh? I hate to defend Harper but what we have to show for it according the IMF would be us recovering faster then everyone else in the G7. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-b...article1307637/ Look I don't like Harper as much as the next guy but he is doing an ok job enough to maybe get him a lead in the poll if all you care about is the Canadian economy. I agree he isn't helping the worst off, he doesn't understand what Canada needs in terms of social policy but Iggy is offering the same thing so why should anyone side with the Liberals? The economic arguement is wrong the Conservatives are doing an ok job on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I like to see were there is high unemployment, a poll of what those voters think. Its all going to depend on the economy and right now, things are not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 AR poll spells doom for the Liberals. Good thing the NDP saved us from a Harper Majority. You can thank us later with your vote. http://www.angusreidstrategies.com/uploads...iticsCAN_EN.pdf The Interesting thing here? These are Dion's numbers. These numbers are the same as the Dion election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 AR poll spells doom for the Liberals. Good thing the NDP saved us from a Harper Majority. You can thank us later with your vote.http://www.angusreidstrategies.com/uploads...iticsCAN_EN.pdf The Interesting thing here? These are Dion's numbers. These numbers are the same as the Dion election. And that's without even having an actual election campaign for Ignatieff. The more he talks, the lower his support. An election campaign with him at the Liberal helm will be glorious entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 And that's without even having an actual election campaign for Ignatieff. The more he talks, the lower his support. An election campaign with him at the Liberal helm will be glorious entertainment. See I could get behind Dion he didn't win me over but he could have. He seemed real, he seemed like he had ideas, Iggy just makes angry whenever he talks. He hates the lefts he thinks he can just throw out buzzwords and we will fall in line. It truly shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Maybe the Liberal Brass was onto something when they put Dion in, maybe Dion was actually the best candidate. Who's next, Bob Rae? The Libs need a long time out to purge the party clean. They need to realize that sometimes gov'ts do change and Canada is not BC after all. They would have been better off cleaning shop back in 05 and just biding their time while rebuilding. Too much time and resources have been spent trying to win back parliament so soon. Sometimes they have to lose a battle to win the war, that's what happened to the tories in the 90's/early 2000's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) There is a HD poll out on Jacks position apparently the Liberals were wrong. Effective Opposition was right again. "Nationally, Jack Layton’s position is the most popular, supported by almost 3-in-4 Canadians. Nationally, 72% supported Mr. Layton’s position that the NDP will support the government for as long as it takes for EI legislation to become law and the new money distributed, including 18% who strongly supported this position. This position has broad appeal nationwide with no less than 66% in any region indicating they support his position on the matter. Among New Democrats, 81% are supportive of this position, while 13% are opposed. The position of the NDP leader is also supported by 70% of Liberals and 78% of Conservatives." So 72% of Canadians like what Jack did and even more NDPers like it. I was at the convention 81% of NDPers don't agree on anything so again the NDP make the right move to help Canadians. The other thing: Iggy "57% are opposed to this position, including 24% who are strongly opposed to it" Ouch! http://www.harrisdecima.com/sites/default/...10-02-en331.pdf Edited October 3, 2009 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Maybe the Liberal Brass was onto something when they put Dion in, maybe Dion was actually the best candidate. Who's next, Bob Rae? This is what I've been saying since the 2006 Liberal Leadership Convention. Ignatieff will be easier to beat than Dion, Rae even more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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