CBC partners with Islam Extremists?

[Mr.Canada]

Sorry, I could not understand the jist of your argument.. What is this that you are talking about? An armed rebellion? Also, what the hell is up with you labeling others as "enemies"? What are you, a violent Jihad? Slay the infidels!!

An unarmed, man hating, religion bashing, morally inept society is a helpless one. Once the socialist/secularists take away our will to live it will be much easier to rule us. A conquered people with no resolve to fight against the tyranny will make willing slaves of us all. We must not let the secularist-socialist agenda to crush our resolve and determination. When they come bashing down our doors to burn our Bibles and smash our cruxifixes remember your savior, he will return but as the Bible says we must first live through the false messiah before the true son o0f man will appear on Earth.

Edited December 14, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[LesterDC]

An unarmed, man hating, religion bashing, morally inept society is a helpless one. Once the socialist/secularists take away our will to live it will be much easier to rule us. A conquered people with no resolve to fight against the tyranny will make willing slaves of us all. We must not let the secularist-socialist agenda to crush our resolve and determination. When they come bashing down our doors to burn our Bibles and smash our cruxifixes remember your savior, he will return but as the Bible says we must first live through the false messiah before the true son o0f man will appear on Earth.

Uh.. Sorry , where do you get the idea that people will come bashing our doors and burning our bibles? You are fully aware that you are allowed to go to church on Sunday right? The point is not to destroy religion.. The point is to have other people be whatever they want..

[Oleg Bach]

Uh.. Sorry , where do you get the idea that people will come bashing our doors and burning our bibles? You are fully aware that you are allowed to go to church on Sunday right? The point is not to destroy religion.. The point is to have other people be whatever they want..

Free will - God could have created us like robot and perfect. But there was a love for his own handy work. He allowed us to be free. To either destroy our selves or sustain life..It's our choice - The very core of all good relgion is to provide a sense of freedom..To some Muslims - a regimented existance offers peace and with that peace comes their own kind of freedom....just don't try to ram your version of freedom up my butt - Muslim - Christain or Jew and atheist etc..seek and find freedom in their own way - security....one rule though - mind your own buisness and get along.

[LesterDC]

one rule though - mind your own buisness and get along.

= Secularism

[speaker]

From here it looks like the conservative fascists are the ones trying to take away our rights. Destroying entire nations and economies for political face and financial gain might be widening the entitlement of a handful of the really greedy, but not the rest of us.

None of this has anything to do with religion. Some people have always grafted themselves to the power source in whatever society or sector they find themselves, political, financial, religious, and media power. These are the people who are the enemies of freedom.

[ToadBrother]

True, but Connecticut continued to have a state religion (Congregational Church) until adopting the Constitution in 1818. Realizing true separation of state and church (as understood today) was very slow in coming, and remnants persist in Canada and the United States.

Part of the issue was the conflict over whether the Bill of Rights applied just to the Federal government or to the states as well. Barron vs Baltimore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barron_v._Baltimore) established that the Bill of Rights extended to the states as well, putting an end, save in a few crypto-dominionist types that no level of government was permitted to establish a church.

[ToadBrother]

Are we better for it? I don't think so. If we were all on the same side we could crush our enemies without fighting ourselves.

There hasn't been a same "side" in Christianity since 1054, when Rome and Constantinople split in the Great Schism. In Europe there wasn't a same side after Martin Luther posted the 95 Theses on Castle Church in Wittenberg. I mean, are you truly that ignorant of European history not to know the violence that the Reformation and Counter-Reformation produced? Even in Medieval times, same "side" didn't stop wars between Christian princes.

And I find it rather sad that you find the underlying theme of our modern civilization, that every man should be free to worship as he pleases without intererence, is somehow a weakness, and that the only way to fight radical Islamism is to become equaling radicalized. Besides, as an atheist, I have to ask, Who The F*** Do You Think You Are? How dare you suggest that somehow my freedoms are a weakness.

[ToadBrother]

It would be faster if not as many conservatives stood up to fight against it. If the secularists/Trostskyites has their way all religion, well only all Christian religion that is, would be abolished and our enemies would rule over us. Socialists don't want a free society they want an unarmed, neutered one. Unarmed people cannot rebel against an unjust government, a bloodless coup is the aim of the socialist.

And again, secularism predates communism and socialism. Why do you keep lying? Is this what your religion leads you to, shameless dishonesty in an attempt to defend your position? Is your god that small, pathetic and immoral that he would back your BS? How glad I am not to share your pathetic little religion. Fortunately, I know many Christians who don't share your particular small-minded ignorant faith either.

[ToadBrother]

An unarmed, man hating, religion bashing, morally inept society is a helpless one. Once the socialist/secularists take away our will to live it will be much easier to rule us. A conquered people with no resolve to fight against the tyranny will make willing slaves of us all. We must not let the secularist-socialist agenda to crush our resolve and determination. When they come bashing down our doors to burn our Bibles and smash our cruxifixes remember your savior, he will return but as the Bible says we must first live through the false messiah before the true son o0f man will appear on Earth.

You really think that secularists want to smash your crucifixes? Are you insane?

[Mr.Canada]

And again, secularism predates communism and socialism. Why do you keep lying? Is this what your religion leads you to, shameless dishonesty in an attempt to defend your position? Is your god that small, pathetic and immoral that he would back your BS? How glad I am not to share your pathetic little religion. Fortunately, I know many Christians who don't share your particular small-minded ignorant faith either.

It is a decades long conspiracy. The Secularist-Communists are eroding our freedoms year after year but they are doing it slowly. Now they drag us to court if we say something that hurts someones feelings, yeah that's real freedom.

[Oleg Bach]

"Crush our enemies" - Mr. Canada has a long way to evolve. Stop making enemies and you will not have to waste your time and energy crushing them - Mr. Cs out look is so old Testimonial...The NT or the Christian part of the bible is the only one that built our civilization - the OT..is just a collection of ancient Jewish history...and is to be disregarded - crushing your enemies has not brought success to the Jews - so why bother.??

[ToadBrother]

It is a decades long conspiracy.

Not decades, centuries. Secularism arose as a concept during the Enlightenment.

The Secularist-Communists are eroding our freedoms year after year but they are doing it slowly. Now they drag us to court if we say something that hurts someones feelings, yeah that's real freedom.

Are you saying John Locke and the Founding Fathers were Secularist-Communists? I mean, listen to yourself. You're raving. You're either a complete moron, a shameless liar or delusional.

[bush_cheney2004]

....putting an end, save in a few crypto-dominionist types that no level of government was permitted to establish a church.

That's great as a matter of constitutional law, but the practical impact of a still blurred separation continues. They're still fighting over Nativity scenes on public property and funding to Catholic schools in Ontario.

[Oleg Bach]

Remember that bit in the states? Where they wanted to remove the rock with the ten commandments on it? They kept on going on about seperation of church and state. When in truth it had nothing to do with that issue. The commandments are not religion persay - they are LAW .... What was accomplished during that removal of the monolith from the court building was ------------seperation of state and law. So American - lets just get rid of the rules and say we are fighting for the right to keep religion out of politics. This removal was actually about crooks who where in a house of law - who wanted no law.

[LesterDC]

It is a decades long conspiracy. The Secularist-Communists are eroding our freedoms year after year but they are doing it slowly. Now they drag us to court if we say something that hurts someones feelings, yeah that's real freedom.

Yes.. Sure. Let us slay all the infidels. I mean, why not right? We have every right to force our beliefs on other people. Forget about them, they don't deserve freedom

"Crush our enemies" - Mr. Canada has a long way to evolve. Stop making enemies and you will not have to waste your time and energy crushing them - Mr. Cs out look is so old Testimonial...The NT or the Christian part of the bible is the only one that built our civilization - the OT..is just a collection of ancient Jewish history...and is to be disregarded - crushing your enemies has not brought success to the Jews - so why bother.??

This is just pathetic. I am sorry but something isn't right when you see everybody as black and white, friend and foe. Why can't we just get along? I mean, we are all human beings right? "Crush our enemies"? You want to take part in another crusade? Are you part of the KKK?

[LesterDC]

Not decades, centuries. Secularism arose as a concept during the Enlightenment.

Are you saying John Locke and the Founding Fathers were Secularist-Communists? I mean, listen to yourself. You're raving. You're either a complete moron, a shameless liar or delusional.

Apparently Canada and the United States are communist countries because secularism = communism..

[Oleg Bach]

Apparently Canada and the United States are communist countries because secularism = communism..

It's a corporate communal state of affairs. Both America and Canada are just huge companies. This is what happens to nations that do prolonged successful buisness. Now that we understand it..who we hireing and who are we firing? We have to embrace that concept in order to compete with that real old corporation ...Islam inc. And don't believe for a second that they are not the biggest corporation on earth...What do you think this "war on terror" is about? It's two huge Companies in competition - for the planet..interesting.

[dpwozney]

Religion in the west - at it's best is a private affair - not talking about formal religion but about personal spirituallity based in old Christianity - where we are instucted to relate to God in PRIVATE...

“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)

Edited December 15, 2008 by dpwozney

[ToadBrother]

Remember that bit in the states? Where they wanted to remove the rock with the ten commandments on it? They kept on going on about seperation of church and state. When in truth it had nothing to do with that issue. The commandments are not religion persay - they are LAW ....

The Ten Commandments are not law. I can't get arrested for coveting my neighbor's property, and heck, not even adultery is a crime. The TEn Commandments are not the foundation of the law in the US (or in any English-speaking country). English Common Law is the founding system, and it comes from the Anglo-Saxons and from them its origins is Pagan Germanic. The only meaningful admixture is some elements of the Continental legal system, whose origins are Roman, and thus pagan as well.

What was accomplished during that removal of the monolith from the court building was ------------seperation of state and law. So American - lets just get rid of the rules and say we are fighting for the right to keep religion out of politics. This removal was actually about crooks who where in a house of law - who wanted no law.

You have no idea what you're talking about. And it was ruled that a Ten Commandments display could be viewed at a court house as part of a display of the origins of the legal system, but that the courts, being a part of the government, could not promote one system above another.

Besides, as I pointed out above, the Ten Commandments are not the law in the United States, or anywhere save perhaps for a theocracy like Iran, and our legal system, and no legal system of any industrialized nation that I'm aware of, is based on the old Israelite laws. You need to look to Rome and the ancient Germanic peoples for the origins of our legal system (and the United States' as well).

[LesterDC]

“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” (1 Peter 1:20)

That isn't what the passage means.. It means that all true prophecies are viable because they were not personal interpretations, they were messages from god

[dpwozney]

That isn't what the passage means.

What does the word “that” in the above sentence refer to?

It means that all true prophecies are viable because they were not personal interpretations, they were messages from god

Does it mean that all true predictions, that have been made after the completion of the writing of the New Testament, were messages from god?

Edited December 15, 2008 by dpwozney

[stignasty]

This is an amazing short Article on the "Greatest KIller" through out history, the secular governments around the world. Secular = Communist.... people, don't be fooled.

Yes, it's on the internets, it must be true. Did you notice that the page you quoted had different numbers than you posted here?

"The execution (without trial) of tens of thousands of hostages and prisoners and the murder of hundreds of thousands of workers and peasants in Russia from 1918 to 1922 under Vladimir Lenin."

Besides the erroneous leap in logic the page takes, it does get some numbers right. In the period after he came to power (which wasn't in October 1917) about 10 million people were killed. . . not for being Christian, but because Stalin saw them as enemies. 5 million or so Kulaks were liquidated, and another 5 million people starved to death in the famine that followed which resulted from the liquidation of the farmers and because the food that was being produced was being sold overseas so they had money to build heavy industry.

You should try 9th grade history before you knock it.

[LesterDC]

Does it mean that all true predictions, that have been made after the completion of the writing of the New Testament, were messages from god?

Well according to the Bible.. every prophecy in the scriptures were sent directly from God..

[dpwozney]

Christianity had bloody wars that established the necessity of plurality - because there were different Christian sects within a small space - all with conflicting goals. I don't know that it opened up the minds of the adherents, but it established a way for them to co-exist.

In the present church age, Christians are under New Testament Christian law and are commanded not to kill enemies, are required not to take physical revenge, and are instructed to not perform physical violence (Matthew 5:38-45, Matthew 26:52, Luke 6:27-28, John 18:11, Romans 12:19-21, Romans 13:9-10, 2 Corinthians 10:3-4, Ephesians 6:12, 1 Thessalonians 5:15, 1 Peter 2:21-24, 1 Peter 3:8-9).

[Michael Hardner]

In the present church age, Christians are under New Testament Christian law and are commanded not to kill enemies, are required not to take physical revenge, and are instructed to not perform physical violence (Matthew 5:38-45, Matthew 26:52, Luke 6:27-28, John 18:11, Romans 12:19-21, Romans 13:9-10, 2 Corinthians 10:3-4, Ephesians 6:12, 1 Thessalonians 5:15, 1 Peter 2:21-24, 1 Peter 3:8-9).

dpw,

Are you pointing out that many Christians didn't follow the teachings of the New Testament ?

That's not exactly new information.