Parliament lost confidence, how about you?

[BubberMiley]

What concerns me is the rabid support for a coalition that doesn't even have solid leadership. It is clear that the agenda is partisanship and pure irrational hatred for Stephen Harper.

What's wrong with pure irrational hatred? You've always been proud of yours for Obama.

Edited December 9, 2008 by BubberMiley

[charter.rights]

So Gilles Duceppe held membership in the Workers' Communist Party of Canada, but the Bloc is actually right of centre? Nice try.

Harper was once a "young Liberal". Nice try....

[punked]

Harper was once a "young Liberal". Nice try....

Everyone in Canada was once a young Liberal. Seriously.

[blueblood]

Harper was once a "young Liberal". Nice try....

Better a Liberal than a commie bastard. Harper took some economic courses and joined "the dark side".

[blueblood]

It is interesting though now we have 62-63% for the coalition, that probably isn't coincidence.

Even with the leadership of Mr. Dions liberals, people are still choosing the coalition over the leadership of Mr. Harper. That speaks volumes, doesn't it.

Citation on that, the compas poll tells 2:1 against the coalition.

[punked]

Citation on that, the compas poll tells 2:1 against the coalition.

He is talking about the poll at the top of the screen

[cybercoma]

What's wrong with pure irrational hatred? You've always been proud of yours for Obama.

I hate Obama? I think you're confusing me with another poster.

[capricorn]

Even with the leadership of Mr. Dions liberals, people are still choosing the coalition over the leadership of Mr. Harper. That speaks volumes, doesn't it.

Too bad it isn't the real world, eh?

[ToadBrother]

So Gilles Duceppe held membership in the Workers' Communist Party of Canada, but the Bloc is actually right of centre? Nice try.

Does the Bloc really have an overarching economic policy? Beyond grabbing as much from the Feds as they can, whilst simultaneously shielding as much from Federal interference as can be managed, I mean.

Let's face it, the Bloc is very much a marriage of convenience. The damned thing was founded by a disgruntled Tory.

[Shakeyhands]

That's what happens when one poster makes multiple accounts so they can vote several times.

Cyber that would be against the forum rules. Perhaps Charles can speak to Greg and verify your claim? Perhaps not worth their time but i'm sure it would make you feel better.

And as far as other polls go, no, most aren't completely comfortable with a coalition, they would rather the minority gov't that was elected work with the other partys for the benefit of Canada, not just the CPC and one mans ideology.

[madmax]

What concerns me is the rabid support for a coalition that doesn't even have solid leadership. It is clear that the agenda is partisanship and pure irrational hatred for Stephen Harper.

All hatred has some degree of irrationality behind it. However Stephen Harper has had years to prove he is beyond his own personal petty partisanship. Something that should be an absolute must for a Prime Minister. One inflames the other.

And why shouldn't the coalition be stronger without a leader? The Liberals are always higher in the polls when in a leadership race. The coalition was doing far better when the voices of Martin, Manley, Romanov, and McKenna were speaking, but then the Liberals choose Dion as their savior.

The Liberals are a pathetic lot of losers, and Iggy won't change that.

However bad the Liberals are, it shows how truly ineffective Stephen Harper is as a Prime Minister, that he can't even maintain the confidence of the house, while facing Dion. That he was so afraid of that pathetic little loser, that he closed down parliment.

Regardless.... I am still reserving judgement about confidence.

I have to get over my disgust first .

[madmax]

It is interesting though now we have 62-63% for the coalition, that probably isn't coincidence.

Even with the leadership of Mr. Dions liberals, people are still choosing the coalition over the leadership of Mr. Harper. That speaks volumes, doesn't it.

YOu are dreaming. There is no 62% support for the coalition. It is anywhere between 41% and 51%. 62% was the percentage of people who didn't vote Conservative. Therefore, you assume that the Christian Heritage, Neo rhinos and the Western Separtist parties support it, or that every single LPC/NDP voter supports that decision. They don't anymore then the Liberal Caucus is unified with the choice. Infact, Kimmy, a Green Party voter (2wice), I doubt supports the coalition.

Of course, if you are speaking of 62% of the vote on this forum poll.... well, that is probably going to change before parliment rejoins in January.

[madmax]

Better a Liberal than a commie bastard. Harper took some economic courses and

must have cheated. Harper is going to make a great Economics Professor. "How I lead the country into the Depression of the 21ST Century." That have to sell their own course material.

[madmax]

I hate Obama? I think you're confusing me with another poster.

Hate: But that's irrational

[Shady]

Harper was once a "young Liberal". Nice try....

Duceppe subscribed to militant Maoist ideology well into his thrities. So, nice try.

[charter.rights]

Yeh? And Jesus was a Buddhist! So there! Nice try!

[fellowtraveller]

The Coalition is legal and constitutional, so the real problem is with Harper's quasi-fascist attitude towards governance.

The election of October 2008 was also legal and constitutional. The proroguing of Parliament is legal and constitutional. The confidence vote and election that will follow, and the election of a CPC majority will also be entirley legal and constiututional.

I'm sure the Harper govt takes comfort from your support.

[charter.rights]

The election of October 2008 was also legal and constitutional. The proroguing of Parliament is legal and constitutional. The confidence vote and election that will follow, and the election of a CPC majority will also be entirley legal and constiututional.

I'm sure the Harper govt takes comfort from your support.

Ah, but if the GG prefers letting the coalition govern then are you going to suck it up and stop whining?

[Shady]

Ah, but if the GG prefers letting the coalition govern then are you going to suck it up and stop whining?

When are you going to admit that your absurd assertion that the Bloc is a right of centre party, is about as wrong as one can be.

[BubberMiley]

When are you going to admit that your absurd assertion that the Bloc is a right of centre party, is about as wrong as one can be.

The founder of the Bloc was a minister in the conservative party. Believe it or not, sometimes parties span the left/right spectrum. I know that seems unbelievable to a CPCer who either agrees with everything their fearless leader tells them to believe or is shunned. But just because Duceppe is a lefty, doesn't mean his party is exclusively, or even generally, lefty.

[M.Dancer]

The founder of the Bloc was a minister in the conservative party. Believe it or not, sometimes parties span the left/right spectrum. I know that seems unbelievable to a CPCer who either agrees with everything their fearless leader tells them to believe or is shunned. But just because Duceppe is a lefty, doesn't mean his party is exclusively, or even generally, lefty.

The bloc is an anomoly. They tend towards fiscal conservatism (except when Quebec spending is concerned and lean towards being socially progressive in which case they are much like the NDP.

[cybercoma]

Yeh? And Jesus was a Buddhist! So there! Nice try!

I thought Jesus was a Jew...

[fellowtraveller]

Ah, but if the GG prefers letting the coalition govern then are you going to suck it up and stop whining?

I'm not the one whining about the legal and constitutional actions of all parties.

You are.

[Mr.Canada]

Mr. Harper is merely giving the jokers the rope to hang themselves, nothing more.

Don't think for a moment that Harper hasn't planned all of this. This is by design, believe it.

Harper will make some concessions to the opposition but will place some of those fiscal reforms back into the budget so he will get defeated and the GG will drop a writ. Harper will then get his massive majority he requires and deserves to get to work for Canada, let's roll up our sleeves. Then finally the public funding to political parties will be gone, which is supported by over half of Canadians. The majority of Canadians support this.

[Poli-Sci Student]

My lack of confidence in the Harper Government has nothing to do with the proposed Coalition. At this point, I have had a few years of Harper as Prime Minister, and I have not been in favour of what I've seen.

My support for the Coalition is much like my support for Obama in the last election: They might not be better, but at least they're different. Do you bet on a sure thing that you don't like, or on something that has the possibility to be either better or worse than the option you don't like?