Anti- and Pro- Coalition Rallies

[Oleg Bach]

It seems that the rally and counter rally in favour of the coalition may only have one purpose - To bring about more insults and inflamatory rhetorical attacks from both sides - The left actually believe that if Harper was ousted that big buisness would be ousted and all would be utoptian in the city state of Toronto - time for cool heads to prevail.

[Chuck U. Farlie]

And I wonder how bad it would get if the two rallys met?

I have had some very heated arguments during the past two days - and I have never become visibly upset by something political before. There is no telling where such emotions might have lead if these arguments were face to face.

[ThatGuy]

We have a constitution for a reason, people just need to relax and turn on reruns of Happy Days.

[g_bambino]

We have a constitution for a reason, people just need to relax and turn on reruns of Happy Days.

It's shocking, though, what an influence ignorance can have in creating such heated conflicts. The Globe and the Star have made some decent attempts to lay out the facts for readers to digest, but I sense that most aren't paying attention. Perhaps it's easier for people to feel justified in their world of imagination than in reality; "I'm against the coup" has such a noble ring to it, as does "I oppose the authoritarian regime", and both are certainly better than admitting that it was us, collectively, who elected this moronic bunch to represent us.

[Oleg Bach]

We have a constitution for a reason, people just need to relax and turn on reruns of Happy Days.

You can get pretty fired up and passionate about this mess. The default that takes place with such emotion is that the mind becomes clouded and we resort to political violence - "There are violent men who try to take heaven (Canada) by force" - This nation is a heaven in comparison to the rest of the world - lets not mess it up because we are drunk and raging for domination over our fellow man and woman - Those political leaders causing the problem must realize one thing - If you want to control your environ (nation) you had better control yourself first. There is uncontrolable hate and rage at present and it will not serve the nation. Don't attempt to control other - control yourself and all will be fine.

[ThatGuy]

Here is a good question Oleg, how much of what we hear on the radio and see in online polls is Conservative workers having a field day.

It must be fun working for that party to be honest.

[ToadBrother]

It's shocking, though, what an influence ignorance can have in creating such heated conflicts. The Globe and the Star have made some decent attempts to lay out the facts for readers to digest, but I sense that most aren't paying attention. Perhaps it's easier for people to feel justified in their world of imagination than in reality; "I'm against the coup" has such a noble ring to it, as does "I oppose the authoritarian regime", and both are certainly better than admitting that it was us, collectively, who elected this moronic bunch to represent us.

What really pisses me off is that a huge number of Canadians didn't seem to give a damn last month, and didn't bother showing up at the polls. Maybe if all these folks who would prefer to stay home were to show up at the polls, then maybe there would have been a Conservative majority (or maybe a Liberal majority for that matter) and we wouldn't be here right now.

The real villain in this whole sad saga, the real culprit, the guilty party is the 23.5 million people who didn't go to the poll.

I've been against mandatory voting in the past, but I'm seriously beginning to change my mind.

[ToadBrother]

Here is a good question Oleg, how much of what we hear on the radio and see in online polls is Conservative workers having a field day.

It must be fun working for that party to be honest.

They're all over the place. The Conservatives now hope to cling to power by lies and propaganda.

[ThatGuy]

The Conservatives now hope to cling to power by lies and propaganda.

It all keeps coming back to Stalin when it is dealing with these Tories.

[g_bambino]

It all keeps coming back to Stalin when it is dealing with these Tories.

But it's Layton who's looking more and more like Lenin!

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Edited December 3, 2008 by g_bambino

[guyser]

And I wonder how bad it would get if the two rallys met?

There is no telling where such emotions might have lead if these arguments were face to face.

Oh sure there is. .......outright civil war !

Ok at least one person here thinks it , absurd as that may seem.

[guyser]

nuttin..

Edited December 3, 2008 by guyser

[M.Dancer]

You can say that again...

[capricorn]

delete

Edited December 3, 2008 by capricorn

[madmax]

I was thinking of attending.....erm both, I thought some were on the same day and in the same cities and nearby each other, like Toronto or such. Great to have taken a camera.

My question is.... is the Anti-Coalition, Democracy Rally still on?

Are the Coalition Rallys still on?

And if so....

why?

[Oleg Bach]

Yes the clash of the Titan school boys - half the team pretend they are commies and the other half pretend they are free enterpise privateers ......in 30 years both sides will be conservative and protecting their home turf.

[-VMG-]

the so called "democracy" rallies seriously run by people who have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

They are completely misinformed about the situation.. and the media is not helping this.

This IS our democracy.... the conservatives have a minority... and the way the conservatives are running the parliament is in a way that they are using the misinformed public.

They make things a confidence vote, if opposition does not a agree but do not want to risk an election (people get pissed off when there are elections because it costs money and is an inconvenience) they have to vote for the bill. Because if they vote it down, it plays into the conservatives because people will think it was the opposition that created this election when in reality it had a lot to do with the "governing" party.

[madmax]

So, am I going to take a trip to Toronto and find people or not? From either side? Actually, I don't even have the Date time and locations of any of these rallies...

I thought there was a PRo/Con one of each in Toronto at the same time. Were they last night or are they Saturday Night or is it a moot point. I believe that none of them will generate people.....or media.

[scribblet]

the so called "democracy" rallies seriously run by people who have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

They are completely misinformed about the situation.. and the media is not helping this.

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What you really mean is that people with whom you disagree are 'uninformed', methinks it's the other way around.

The rallies are on, but the professional protesters will be out in force tomorrow backed by big unions, let us hope that the people are truly informed about who is paying for and backing the pro coalition forces.

[Oleg Bach]

There were more supporters at the police strike a couple of years ago than at the coalition democratic submission rally. Looks like Jack's childhood dream may just come true - and it will be staffed with the young,naive and prickish. This collectiveism that Jack so adores reminds one of by gone days of communist glory. He seeks to create a mindless adherence to administrative routine that every fool can follow with out thinking...it's Jacks' easy way out utopia.

This heady group of freedom killers will all be equal and absolutely everyone will be given that job of boss. A nation consisting of political correctness where every last pip squeak gets to inforce social policy personally and has power governing human behavior. As Jacks collective of ants grows larger the private sphere - the private sphere will naturally grow smaller. His potential massive bureaucracy becomes more hungry for power - the food source (private sphere) becomes more scarce and the persecutive consumption of the private and indepent individual will become more intense.

Eventually the free thinking private individual will be no more. All that will be left is a slithering salivating mass that that has nothing left to do than to consume each other as a type of auto-social cannibalism sets in to eat this body. It will be a scene of one peti bureaucrat scrurrying over the rotten log that was civilization in a relentless attempt to eat the next. And we the private person will not be around to stop the uncontroled carnage. Jacks dream bio-machine will have the smell of a soviet style hell staffed by bat winged hall monitors who lust for the appearance of the slightest percieved indiscretion. The mini-legislators will be driven by the false belief that their noble mission is to preserve the common good.

With fanatic intent they will incrimentally wipe out the common good by removing the right of the individual untill there is no common good. History may repeat itself and there may be in time ONE REBELIOUS INDIVIDUAL LEFT. And they just like the huge Roman welfare state - execute that individual and pervert his cause in to a tool called religion - back to square one - I wish that Jack would nail himself to a cross and save us the suffering of his dellusional quest for world domination. Let this glory seeking con man retire from politics and go to Africa and grab the crazy mans hand that is about to lop off the head of the poor peasant - then Jack's life will have meaning - let him go to where he is needed and let Canada no longer be his hobby.

[blueblood]

alcan called, they want their aluminum back.

Edited December 6, 2008 by Charles Anthony
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[Huston]

The rhetoric is a little too strong for Jack, but it is representative.

[myata]

Why? Because coalition is alive and should exist until Harper has minority government. The permanent coalition appears to be the only mean that can help him keep his disproportionate (to the actual mandate given by people) ambitions in check.

Edited December 6, 2008 by myata

[Bryan]

I was at the pro democracy rally in Winnipeg today. Decent turnout considering it the -30 windchill.

[jdobbin]

I was at the pro democracy rally in Winnipeg today. Decent turnout considering it the -30 windchill.

Crowd estimate was about 300. The crowd seeing Rae talk was also about that number.