Smallc Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 The urbanites in Toronto and Montreal overwhelmingly voted Liberal, and are generally the haters of Harper, therefore one might assume today, they are smug. You may be right, but it certainly doesn't seem like a very good attitude to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 You may be right, but it certainly doesn't seem like a very good attitude to me. It may not be a good attitude but it's a real one. One that seems to be growing, as well. It illustrates another divide between us, that of rural and urban dwellers. Each has dramatically different values and beliefs. Each feels they aren't getting enough political attention because of the other group. Just another brick falling out of the wall of unity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Just another brick falling out of the wall of unity... Always the optimist. Our county will come through this. Of that I have no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 The urbanites in Toronto and Montreal overwhelmingly voted Liberal, and are generally the haters of Harper, therefore one might assume today, they are smug. This has to be one of the most moronic non sequiturs I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Wait until tomorrow. Analysts are expecting a huge hit the market because of turmoil in the government. To say that what's gonig on in Ottawa will have no effect on the TSX is wrong. That's not what you're saying, is it?edit: Saying TODAY'S market wasn't because of the politics is splitting hairs. People are expecting the crash tomorrow, so it's possible that at least some of today was from the problems in government. Nonsense. Today's TSX carnage resulted from oil plummeting over $5 and professional traders pulling the plug on the latest sucker rally - it had nothing to do with Harper's woes or his opponents coalition building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Nonsense. Today's TSX carnage resulted from oil plummeting over $5 and professional traders pulling the plug on the latest sucker rally - it had nothing to do with Harper's woes or his opponents coalition building. Not nonsense! The TSX carnage is a result of old fashioned terrific fear and reactionism. Oil can recover but the lose of faith in leadership is a bit more complex - It's like the father of a country cowering during battle and peeing his pants as he tries to lead -----------this would have the effect of creating fear and a loss of hope in the Canadian family....forget the oil - nations are run by people and not by the price of grease spouting from the ground. If I saw my dad (prime minster) chicken out in a fight....I would go home and hide in shame - and hiding in shame destroys confindence and the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 The urbanites in Toronto and Montreal overwhelmingly voted Liberal, and are generally the haters of Harper, therefore one might assume today, they are smug. The rubes in Carrot Creek, Sask. overwhelmingly voted Conservative, and are generally the haters of Liberals/New Democrats, therefore one might assume today, they are fearful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not nonsense! The TSX carnage is a result of old fashioned terrific fear and reactionism. Oil can recover but the lose of faith in leadership is a bit more complex - It's like the father of a country cowering during battle and peeing his pants as he tries to lead -----------this would have the effect of creating fear and a loss of hope in the Canadian family....forget the oil - nations are run by people and not by the price of grease spouting from the ground. If I saw my dad (prime minster) chicken out in a fight....I would go home and hide in shame - and hiding in shame destroys confindence and the economy. Have you ever considered writing nursery rhymes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 You may be right, but it certainly doesn't seem like a very good attitude to me. PET fired the first shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 The rubes in Carrot Creek, Sask. overwhelmingly voted Conservative, and are generally the haters of Liberals/New Democrats, therefore one might assume today, they are fearful. Calling rural people rubes, classy. And urban people wonder why rural Canada is pissed off at them all the time. PET's social engineering is alive and well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) PET fired the first shot From the grave? Edited December 2, 2008 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Have you ever considered writing nursery rhymes? For the un-enlightend you paint icons - for children you write nursery rhymes or parables. For dummies you draw pictures - do you have a better way to communicate with the dull mass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Calling rural people rubes, classy. And urban people wonder why rural Canada is pissed off at them all the time. PET's social engineering is alive and well. Good on you that you recall Canada's greatest PM. This contrasts to Harper who will soon be a footnote in the nation's political history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 It may not be a good attitude but it's a real one. One that seems to be growing, as well. It illustrates another divide between us, that of rural and urban dwellers. Each has dramatically different values and beliefs. Each feels they aren't getting enough political attention because of the other group.Just another brick falling out of the wall of unity... There has been a divide between urban and rural since the Victorian era. This is not something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 From the grave? Screw the West We'll take the rest. Nice party you support!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good on you that you recall Canada's greatest PM. This contrasts to Harper who will soon be a footnote in the nation's political history. Well, he may go down as the man who united the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) I am not a viloent person but I am ready to explode we vote for governments in this country, not back room pork barrelling to decide the government of the day. Something tells me that you would be lobbying for separation the moment your party was out of office. Fairweather Canadian. Even defeat in an election would probably be a trigger. Edited December 2, 2008 by jdobbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good on you that you recall Canada's greatest PM. This contrasts to Harper who will soon be a footnote in the nation's political history. Ha! Spoken like a true slicker. Hell Laurier and Pearson were better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Well, he may go down as the man who united the left. I wouldn't doubt it. I could see the NDP vanishing once this is all said and down. A taste of some form of power could do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) When the Constitution was written, and the Governor General was given the power to ask the Loyal Opposition if they could form a stable government in the event of the government falling.....it was never conceived that one of the opposition parties would have a mandate to break up the country. This in itself should give the GG pause to think of what constitutes a "stable" government. And if we are resting on tradition....the term "Loyal Opposition" doesn't seem to define the Bloc, does it? It's a complete farce. Edited December 2, 2008 by Keepitsimple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 When the Constitution was written, and the Governor General was given the power to ask the Loyal Opposition if they could form a stable government in the event of the government falling.....it was never conceived that one of the opposition parties would have a mandate to break up the country. This in itself should give the GG pause to think of what constitutes a "stable" government. And if we are resting on tradition....the term "Loyal Opposition" doesn't seem to define the Bloc, does it? It's a complete farce. You are not going to have the Governor General declare the Bloc illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 You are not going to have the Governor General declare the Bloc illegal. And if you did, you might as well kiss Confederation goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 You are not going to have the Governor General declare the Bloc illegal. The Bloc has been allowed to exist, therefore you can't stop them from supporting something. If Harper wooed them we wouldn't have this situation occurring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I wouldn't doubt it. I could see the NDP vanishing once this is all said and down. A taste of some form of power could do the trick. NDP's inability to attain national power should be tempered with their record of developing important programs succesfully adopted by the major parties - CPP, medicare etc. As this downturn spirals further down - we are only in the 2nd inning of a 9 inning affair - it is some comfort that cabinet will include ministers sensitive to needs of average working Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I was under the assumption that she just has to look pretty an fly around the world having fun. Surely some experts will make this decision for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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