Canadian Political Polls

[M.Dancer]

What veto power explain this too me will you like I am a six year old?

I think if you don't get it now, it just might take an explanation aimed at a six year old for yoto grasp the reality....I'm not up for that so here goes.

If the liberals in a deficit environment see that transfer payments must be cut, do you think the bloc would allow a cut to Quebec's transfer payments? Of course not. They would veto that plan forcing the coalition to come up with another idea.

[Mr.Canada]

Keep it up it is people like you that lose Quebec you are never going to have majority at this rate. I love when I see this.

PS Ignatieff will vote against a budget that sucks, he has to show he is strong Harper knows that too. What veto power explain this too me will you like I am a six year old?

When the Lib/NDP coalition takes power they only have about 105 seats the Tories have 143. They need the support of the Bloc in order to pass anything at all. These Bloc votes will not come free. To get those Bloc votes the NDP/Liberals will have to give the Bloc whatever the Bloc wants or the BLoc will vote with the Tories and defeat the bill. Thereby vetoing the bill.

No amount of spin will change the fact that the Lib/NDP combined don't have more seats than the Tories.

Simple enough?

[Mr.Canada]

I think if you don't get it now, it just might take an explanation aimed at a six year old for yoto grasp the reality....I'm not up for that so here goes.

If the liberals in a deficit environment see that transfer payments must be cut, do you think the bloc would allow a cut to Quebec's transfer payments? Of course not. They would veto that plan forcing the coalition to come up with another idea.

Well put Dancer.

[punked]

I think if you don't get it now, it just might take an explanation aimed at a six year old for yoto grasp the reality....I'm not up for that so here goes.

If the liberals in a deficit environment see that transfer payments must be cut, do you think the bloc would allow a cut to Quebec's transfer payments? Of course not. They would veto that plan forcing the coalition to come up with another idea.

Isn't that how it works now with the Cons. I seem to remember Harper Transferring 3 billion each year over the next 3 years to Quebec in hopes the Bloc would vote with him like they have 18 times in the past too keep his government afloat. So the Cons gave them the veto first you say?

[M.Dancer]

Isn't that how it works now with the Cons. I seem to remember Harper Transferring 3 billion each year over the next 3 years to Quebec in hopes the Bloc would vote with him like they have 18 times in the past too keep his government afloat. So the Cons gave them the veto first you say?

Except the Conservatives have enjoyed the support of the Liberals far more than that of the bloc..and the bloc have voted against the conservatives far more than the Liberals....nor have the conservatives gone out of their way to consult with the bloc prior to tabling any legislation and altering any legislation in order to appease the bloc.

Anyway, now that you have managed to graspn the simple concept of the bloc 's hegomony over the coalition , you may move on to the 7th grade

[punked]

When the Lib/NDP coalition takes power they only have about 105 seats the Tories have 143. They need the support of the Bloc in order to pass anything at all. These Bloc votes will not come free. To get those Bloc votes the NDP/Liberals will have to give the Bloc whatever the Bloc wants or the BLoc will vote with the Tories and defeat the bill. Thereby vetoing the bill.

No amount of spin will change the fact that the Lib/NDP combined don't have more seats than the Tories.

Simple enough?

Yes and 18 times in the past when the Libs and NDP voted against Mr Harper and the Bloc with you think those votes came for free too? You guys are such Hypocrites. That isn't called having a veto it is called Parliamentary politics.

[Mr.Canada]

Yes and 18 times in the past when the Libs and NDP voted against Mr Harper and the Bloc with you think those votes came for free too? You guys are such Hypocrites. That isn't called having a veto it is called Parliamentary politics.

Lol, go to bed please. This is getting silly.

[M.Dancer]

Yes and 18 times in the past when the Libs and NDP voted against Mr Harper and the Bloc with you think those votes came for free too? You guys are such Hypocrites. That isn't called having a veto it is called Parliamentary politics.

What is that? 18 out of 100?

Sorry, back to 5th grade for you...

[punked]

Lol, go to bed please. This is getting silly.

It got silly when you acted like the Cons some how are act differently then other politicians. They pander to the Bloc when they need them and that is just the way it is, sometimes the Bloc HAS THE VETO. Yes that happens when you have a political party voting in the house. Deal with it. When the Bloc votes with you it is ok when they vote against you it is them having the VETO. How dare they exist.

[punked]

What is that? 18 out of 100?

Sorry, back to 5th grade for you...

Yes I forgot you are right the number matters. If it is less then 20 times it does not count as supporting I forgot that rule was passed into law last year.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...203.wquebec1203

[M.Dancer]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...203.wquebec1203[/url]

I have never understood the relevence of this story. Perhaps someone could explain to me in terms a sixth grader would understand, how a “Connsensus Leadership for a New Century,” would work agaunst aoverwhelming

Liberal Majority...

Funny how it never got beyond one letter from a political non entity to another political non entity....

[punked]

I have never understood the relevence of this story. Perhaps someone could explain to me in terms a sixth grader would understand, how a “Connsensus Leadership for a New Century,” would work agaunst aoverwhelming

Liberal Majority...

Funny how it never got beyond one letter from a political non entity to another political non entity....

I don't think the story truly applies either but you guys seem to think in the House we should treat the Bloc as if they plague. This shows that was not always the case.

[M.Dancer]

I don't think the story truly applies either but you guys seem to think in the House we should treat the Bloc as if they plague. This shows that was not always the case.

Not treating them as a plague and treating them as political kings makers is a very big difference...given the two options I would treat them with disdain.

[punked]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...nm8ABhXpxIbigsQ

[punked]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...TOp2lkx_UqiVq9g

[Mr.Canada]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...nm8ABhXpxIbigsQ

A packet of stale crackers would have gotten a positive response in a poll over Dion.

[Keepitsimple]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...TOp2lkx_UqiVq9g

In the running for "lamest poll of the year" award.

[Vancouver King]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...TOp2lkx_UqiVq9g

Taken with above poll showing 80% of respondents opposed to auto bailout, this majority in favor of zero deficits is about to get a $30 billion disappointment.

My satisfaction in watching the Conservatives buck public opinion is offset by the general public's obvious ignorance of the beneficial jolt supplied by a stimulous package. Given what's coming not going into deficit is, unfortunately, not an option.

[jbg]

The Federal Liberals deserved to get turfed when they did. They needed to clean house and if they prove that they have done that they'll get elected back in eventually.

No one party should be the governing party forever and all being said PM Harper hasn't done anything drastic or radical as far as I can see. They've behaved like more of a custodial government then anything else. The left don't like him, not because he's some ultra right neo-con, which he isn't but because well, they're on the left and whomever isn't in power looks at themselves as victims. Right or Left.

Apparently they considered themselves victim enough to mount a coup d'etat coalition attempt.

[BubberMiley]

Apparently they considered themselves victim enough to mount a coup d'etat coalition attempt.

There was a time when would you refer to Barack Sadaam Hussein Osama Obama, and then say that the strikethrough was meant to highlight how he is NOT like those people.

I assume, in this case, you are stressing the parliamentary validity of a coalition government, and showing how the people who would call it a coup are as stupid as the people who would call your president-elect a terrorist.

[BubberMiley]

Apparently they considered themselves victim enough to mount a coup d'etat coalition attempt.

There was a time when you would refer to Barack Sadaam Hussein Osama Obama, and then say that the strikethrough was meant to highlight how he is NOT like those people.

I assume, in this case, you are stressing the parliamentary validity of a coalition government, and showing how the people who would call it a coup are as stupid as the people who would call your president-elect a terrorist.

Edited January 6, 2009 by BubberMiley

[gordiecanuk]

I assume, in this case, you are stressing the parliamentary validity of a coalition government, and showing how the people who would call it a coup are as stupid as the people who would call your president-elect a terrorist.

You can't overthrow a government you're already a part of...that's the dumbest bit of rhetoric in the whole coalition debate.

[jbg]

There was a time when you would refer to Barack Sadaam Hussein Osama Obama, and then say that the strikethrough was meant to highlight how he is NOT like those people.

I assume, in this case, you are stressing the parliamentary validity of a coalition government, and showing how the people who would call it a coup are as stupid as the people who would call your president-elect a terrorist.

Something may be technically valid from a parliamentary perspective but be impractical and even morally wrong. How long did Meacham last after the King-Byng affair?