Is Stephen Harper the only federal leader to have held a real job?

normanchateau · October 4, 2008

And 75% are absolutely opposed to the NDP
And 75% are absolutely opposed to the Liberals.

Nonsense! Many of those supporting the other parties have indicated their support is not firm and they might very well switch their preference between now and October 14th. Nanos Research, among others, have revealed this. Conservative voters are firm in their commitment to vote for Harper. Strategic voters will switch their allegiance if they think it will thwart Harper and what he stands for.

blueblood · October 4, 2008

Nonsense! Many of those supporting the other parties have indicated their support is not firm and they might very well switch their preference between now and October 14th. Nanos Research, among others, have revealed this. Conservative voters are firm in their commitment to vote for Harper. Strategic voters will switch their allegiance if they think it will thwart Harper and what he stands for.

How is that nonsense, that's what the polls say. Simple math says that.

This is grasping at straws at its finest.

normanchateau · October 4, 2008

How is that nonsense, that's what the polls say. Simple math says that.
This is grasping at straws at its finest.

Apparently you cannot grasp the concept of people voting for their second choice if they believe that will stop a Harper candidate from taking the riding. But then again, why should I expect more from those who believe that physicians and those in other professions do not have "real jobs"? Of course you will continue repeatedly to ignore my initial point, which is to challenge the Harper supporter's notion that physicians do not have real jobs.

blueblood · October 4, 2008

Apparently you cannot grasp the concept of people voting for their second choice if they believe that will stop a Harper candidate from taking the riding. But then again, why should I expect more from those who believe that physicians and those in other professions do not have "real jobs"? Of course you will continue repeatedly to ignore my initial point, which is to challenge the Harper supporter's notion that physicians do not have real jobs.

Yeah, I haven't even said anything remotely like that. They're all in reality real jobs. I am grasping that concept, that means if they are all vote swapping, that will still mean 75% of voters don't support the Liberals and 75% don't support the NDP. It's not my fault the left wing in this country is stupid enough to run 3 parties and expect theirs to win.

10 days till Harper's victory!!!

Argus · October 4, 2008

Apparently you cannot grasp the concept of people voting for their second choice if they believe that will stop a Harper candidate from taking the riding.

I think some people simply have difficulty in comprehending the degree of emotional and political immaturity of much of the Left. The Left, collectively, is filled with fear and loathing of anyone who doesn't agree with them. Half of them seem to believe that if Stephen Harper gets a majority he'll bring back concentration camps and start throwing homos and women who have abortion into them.

eyeball · October 4, 2008

I think some people simply have difficulty in comprehending the degree of emotional and political immaturity of much of the Left. The Left, collectively, is filled with fear and loathing of anyone who doesn't agree with them. Half of them seem to believe that if Stephen Harper gets a majority he'll bring back concentration camps and start throwing homos and women who have abortion into them.

I doubt Harper would actually do this himself but I'm pretty sure half the people he represents would cheer if he did.

Your obvious contempt for academics and universities is sure puzzling. You seem to think Harper is a common man who would identify with what you're saying so I'm left wondering why he hasn't disavowed his credentials as a university educated economist? He should be as ashamed of this as you.

By the way, I wonder if Harper is on the same slavery page as you, what do you think?

blueblood · October 4, 2008

I doubt Harper would actually do this himself but I'm pretty sure half the people he represents would cheer if he did.
Your obvious contempt for academics and universities is sure puzzling. You seem to think Harper is a common man who would identify with what you're saying so I'm left wondering why he hasn't disavowed his credentials as a university educated economist? He should be as ashamed of this as you.

By the way, I wonder if Harper is on the same slavery page as you, what do you think?

By saying that half the people Harper represents are extremists is why the left does not get elected in Western Canada. That arrogant attitude is why the Liberals are in opposition in the West and will never form a majority gov't again. Keep up the arrogance, left, it's to the right's advantage. This is the lefts attitude; acceptance and tolerance to everyone but in fine print, whoever follows the left doctrine, what a load of hypocritical crap.

Progressive my redneck ass.

gc1765 · October 5, 2008

The Liberals underestimated the intelligence of Canadian voters in 2006 and they are doing it again now.

Apparently the Liberals are not the only ones who are underestimating the intelligence of Canadian voters...

Half of them seem to believe that if Stephen Harper gets a majority he'll bring back concentration camps and start throwing homos and women who have abortion into them.

:lol:

August1991 · October 5, 2008

I'm not saying they should be looked down on. I'm saying that they are hardly representative of the common man, and have nothing in their collective pasts which gives any indication they ever shared the kinds of economic concerns and realities the rest of us experience daily. What we have are three pampered, ivory tower elitists trying to pretend they're the representatives of the common man and Harper, the only guy who ever had a sort of lunchbucket job, is an elitist representative of the rich. That strikes me as entirely too hypocritical to pass without remark.

In that sense, you have a point. I'm sure that I wasn't the only one who noted the silence after Harper's comment in the English debate that he was the only one around the table who in fact used exclusively the public health care system. (Steve Paikin pointed a finger at Layton's use of a private clinic but the others are no different.)

It's not that Harper is playing the populist card. It's rather that the others are playing it and then accusing Harper of being an elitist.

Argus · October 5, 2008

I doubt Harper would actually do this himself but I'm pretty sure half the people he represents would cheer if he did.

And some of you thought I was exaggerating, eh? :-)

Your obvious contempt for academics and universities is sure puzzling.

I don't have contempt for academics and universities. But I've been around a lot of academics and I know that their major failing is they fall in love with theories which are unworkable in the real world, and the reason they fall in love with them is their lack of exposure to the real world. Universities are quite different places than anywhere else in Canada. They have their own rather protected cultures. Someone who has spent all his life there really is rather clueless insofar as the real world is concerned.

By the way, I wonder if Harper is on the same slavery page as you, what do you think?

I think you are almost a cliche, insofar as fulfilling the trueism of how totally humourless Leftists are.

Edited October 5, 2008 by Argus

eyeball · October 5, 2008

I think you are almost a cliche, insofar as fulfilling the trueism of how totally humourless Leftists are.

Of course, you're so focused on other things (like taking your own humour way too seriously) you missed what just went whistling over your head. Must be all that soldiering that tells you to keep it down.