Will you vote strategically?

[capricorn]

Does she actually have a chance of beating Peter MacKay?

From my understanding, both have loads of local appeal. I'm thinking the recently released Green platform might turn off some voters in the riding to McKay's benefit. There's also how well she will do in the debates. The appeal of having a party leader as your MP may also count for something.

Edited September 17, 2008 by capricorn

[Army Guy]

What ever happen to voting for the party that will be the best for our ridings or nation. Last time i checked this was not a hockey game, with all of us sitting and cheering for our favorite team....it was an election which will decide whom, and how our nation is governed...we should be choosing the best person for that job regardless of party...

I'll never understand people who vote for one party all thier lives, regardless of the quality of thier canidate or where they stand on the issues..It seems a pretty closed minded, some what lazy way of casting a vote, and hear i thought it was the issues that counted, i guess not...

Voting for another party just to keep another out seems a bit childish if you ask me....or maybe i got it all wrong, maybe it's me that has a misguided sense of how we should choose our countries leaders....to me it's where they stand on our nations issues, how they plan to solve our problems, thats what is important, and that is where i will place my vote...yes even if they will not get elected.

Voting for someone who does not even represent your stand on the issues is just silly, and if they get elected then what, well they'll be better than so and so....And the nation is run by, or becomes the oppostion party... what should have been second or third place finisher, mean while your orginal party or person of chioce is regulated to serving in the back ground, and your interests go unserved until the next election.

Edited September 19, 2008 by Army Guy

[Rue]

Sorry for the French, if that upsets you.

La Presse

In the quote, Duceppe is asking Quebecers to vote for the BQ even if they disagree with the BQ (and Quebec sovereignty) in order to consolidate votes and stop Stephen Harper from winning a majority. I suspect that Dion will soon make a similar appeal in English Canada.

How many voters are susceptible to such appeals?

Mais nons.

No he won't. He can't. That is an admission he's lost the election. This is a stubborn man who will go out as he did coming in, obstinate, stiff, rigid, not the kind of person who will change and adapt as he goes along - someone who comes across as an academic but in fact is dogmatic. Trudeau was just as much of an academic, so was Lester Pearson, but neither felt so bound by their beliefs they could not bend and adapt to political reality.

The same thing that ails Dion is what ails Ignatieff. They just can not lower themselves to sucking and blowing to get votes. They prefer to hear themselves talk and lecture then practicing blow jobs on Joe Public. Now Mr. Haper, even though we all know he is a stubborn, elitist who does not give a damn what anyone thinks and has contempt for everyone, even he gets on his knees and toots the message during election time. Tells people what they want to hear and saves reality for the back rooms.

Strategic voting? Do you really think the NDP will suddenly vote Liberal and prevent a majority? Hah. In the ridings they do it will make zero difference.

The election was a Tory majority the moment Dion refused to listen to his handlers and insisted on going ahead with the Green Shit as his platform. Harper won it precisely because he chooses to lie and tell people what they want to hear. Its a guaranteed formula to win. Harper's message appeals to people who do not want to feel responsible for the consequences of their lfiestyle choices and change their personal lifestyles to adapt to what is coming.

Dion like some petulant Professor everyone laughs at tries to act like Noah warning of the flood only he can't explain it in easy to understand terms because everytime he tries to say the word flood it comes out dud.

As for Gilles Duceppes and the Block, its pretty hard to run a all we care about is Quebec platform when Harper has played the classic federal Quebec Social Credit Party song which appeals to rural Quebecers.

Another Social Credit government on the way. The only difference, Harper ditched the checkered jackets and pinky ring fingers.

[eyeball]

What ever happen to voting for the party that will be the best for our ridings or nation. Last time i checked this was not a hockey game, with all of us sitting and cheering for our favorite team....it was an election which will decide whom, and how our nation is governed...we should be choosing the best person for that job regardless of party...

I'll never understand people who vote for one party all thier lives, regardless of the quality of thier canidate or where they stand on the issues..It seems a pretty closed minded, some what lazy way of casting a vote, and hear i thought it was the issues that counted, i guess not...

Voting for another party just to keep another out seems a bit childish if you ask me....or maybe i got it all wrong, maybe it's me that has a misguided sense of how we should choose our countries leaders....to me it's where they stand on our nations issues, how they plan to solve our problems, thats what is important, and that is where i will place my vote...yes even if they will not get elected.

Voting for someone who does not even represent your stand on the issues is just silly, and if they get elected then what, well they'll be better than so and so....And the nation is run by, or becomes the oppostion party... what should have been second or third place finisher, mean while your orginal party or person of chioce is regulated to serving in the back ground, and your interests go unserved until the next election.

I've never felt that who is in power is anywhere near as important as how they'll govern us.

I do have something I'd like to vote for and if we had proportional representation I'd vote accordingly with the knowledge that my vote would probably translate into some real tangible representation. We don't though and I'm convinced the social conservative approach to solving our problems will make all of them far worse. So, I might well vote strategically for ABC but I haven't ruled out the possibility of also voting none of the above by spoiling my ballot.

A Conservative majority will in my opinion, be a disaster. Failing a PR system, my only hope is that the Liberals, NDP, Greens and Bloc one day unite under one name and stop dividing the 60% of Canadians who consistently indicate they do not want to live according to social conservative dictates.

Edited September 19, 2008 by eyeball

[M.Dancer]

A Conservative majority will in my opinion, be a disaster. Failing a PR system, my only hope is that the Liberals, NDP, Greens and Bloc one day unite under one name and stop dividing the 60% of Canadians who consistently indicate they do not want to live according to social conservative dictates.

A faint hope based on a false premise.

[eyeball]

A faint hope based on a false premise.

Based on fact actually.

Harper recognized in his Fredericton remarks that the Canadian public is not "necessarily as conservative as everyone in our party." He said the Conservatives would have to move toward Canadians "if they want to continue to govern the country."

This is a tacit acknowledgment that two in three voters - a large majority, in other words - do not intend to vote Conservative. The fact is that the Conservatives will likely win anyway. But that is emphatically not because Canadians have drifted rightward. The problem is that the non-Conservative vote is divided among four parties in the centre and on the left, the Liberals, the Bloc Québécois, the NDP and the Green Party.

[M.Dancer]

Based on fact actually.

And....your false premise is social conservatism....

[shelphs]

You pose an interesting question, for I also wonder how many people vote in this manner. I myself vote for the party with the most comprehensive platform and shares the same policy decisions, or values as myself.

As of now, I am overwhelming opposed to only one party: the Conservative party. The level of dishonesty and fact-distortion that this party has engaged in in the last few years is remarkable.

My point is made in these videos:

1.

Title: The Conservative Stephen Harper Government's Anti-Drug Strategy (information

for the 2008 Canadian election)

URL:

Sources: cited at http://shelphspolitics.wordpress.com/

(there were too many sources to cite to put them in the Description field under 'more info')

2.

Title: Stephen Harper and the Conservatives' Environmental Plan: Turning the Corner

(information for the 2008 Canadian election)

URL:

Sources: cited under 'more info' on the youtube URL above

Please read and view the cited sources before dismissing the videos. Everything contained therein is accurate, and please confirm this for yourself. After you have verified the truthfulness of my argument, please tell others, please tell others of the videos.