Why do we have a Governor General?

[PoliticalCitizen]

Because we have a bunch of immigrants that come from countries that have nothing to do with the Queen, you think Canada should dump its history? To what advantage? So, we can be usurped by the cultures and histories of the immigrant populations?

Don't dump history - keep it.

What I say is "Constitutional Monarchy" should become history

We (the Immigrants) don't need it, find it archaic (even more than the electoral system) and insulting

Let the queen of England occupy her rightful place in the history books, not on our currency.

[g_bambino]

We (the Immigrants) don't need it, find it archaic (even more than the electoral system) and insulting

"Archaic" and "insulting"? Those are just flimsy catch words. Do you have any argument with substance?

Let the queen of England occupy her rightful place in the history books, not on our currency.

You should get some more up to date currency. The last Queen of England died in 1707.

[independent]

Don't dump history - keep it.

What I say is "Constitutional Monarchy" should become history

We (the Immigrants) don't need it, find it archaic (even more than the electoral system) and insulting

Let the queen of England occupy her rightful place in the history books, not on our currency.

It is a ceremonial position. Part of the Canadian culture. We celebrate all countries culture in Canada. Be Proud of who you are and proud of the country you call home.

[PoliticalCitizen]

It is a ceremonial position. Part of the Canadian culture. We celebrate all countries culture in Canada. Be Proud of who you are and proud of the country you call home.

I am proud.

I want Canada to become the leading country in the world in all respects.

One of the most important factors a country is judged by is its social organization.

It is hard to move forward when you haven't freed yourself from the authocratic past.

We're no longer a colony, we don't want to be a dominion, we don't need a foreign ruler.

Edited October 6, 2008 by PoliticalCitizen

[jbg]

It is hard to move forward when you haven't freed yourself from the authocratic past.

Are you saying that authors (as in "authocratic") run Canada? Maybe the CBC authors do.

Certainly, there's no "autocratic" (as corrected) history except for the FLQ crisis.

[g_bambino]

We're no longer a colony, we don't want to be a dominion, we don't need a foreign ruler.

That's a self-contradictory statement. A country cannot be under a foreign ruler and no longer be a colony.

[PoliticalCitizen]

Are you saying that authors (as in "authocratic") run Canada? Maybe the CBC authors do.

Certainly, there's no "autocratic" (as corrected) history except for the FLQ crisis.

Pardon me for not running a spellcheck on my fourth language

What is the FLQ crisis?

[PoliticalCitizen]

That's a self-contradictory statement. A country cannot be under a foreign ruler and no longer be a colony.

Well then you explain to me what Canada really is, cause there are no Canadian kings or queens yet we have one.

[g_bambino]

there are no Canadian kings or queens yet we have one.

Another self-contradictory statement.

[PoliticalCitizen]

Another self-contradictory statement.

Only to people who rush to decisions.

There are no Canadian royalties and yet we have a royalty who is not Canadian.

If we indeed like Monarchy so much could we not have had a Canadian king or queen? Why borrow the England's?

[g_bambino]

Only to people who rush to decisions.

There are no Canadian royalties and yet we have a royalty who is not Canadian.

Mmmm... nope. Your statement was self-contradictory; there are either no Canadian kings or queens, so we don't have one, or there are Canadian kings or queens, so we do have one. Which do you think is the correct option?

[guyser]

..had a Canadian king or queen?

We have, his name was Clancy.

And we also have had, his name was Brian Orser.

[independent]

Well then you explain to me what Canada really is, cause there are no Canadian kings or queens yet we have one.

Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of England and she is the Queen of Canada. We have not been under England since 1982.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Canada

Being The Queen of Canada is like a second job and totally separate from her job of Queen of England.

[M.Dancer]

Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of England .

Incorrect. She is not the Queen of England.

[cybercoma]

We (the Immigrants) don't need it, find it archaic (even more than the electoral system) and insulting

Let the queen of England occupy her rightful place in the history books, not on our currency.

The monarchy is not needed by anyone in Canada, however, it is a part of who we are and how our nation came to be. How is that archaic and insulting? We were part of the British Commonwealth and to this day The Queen is still our head of state through her representative the Governor General.

What purpose would it serve to make these changes, other than to keep from harming the tender sensibilities of those who come to this country and find disagreement with our history and culture? It is not within the rights of immigrants to demand Canada ignore its history or change the way we do things so that we adopt the history of other nations.

It is possible for everyone to live here and have their own cultures left intact while recognizing the role of Britain and the Queen in our society. After all, it was Britain who allowed the French to keep their language, culture and traditions in Quebec, even after they lost on the Plains of Abraham. Although Lord Durham recommended the creation one Parliament so the anglophones would outnumber the French, the francophones were never assimilated, nor is it an expectation today for other cultures to assimilate.

It's fair to say that we ask the same of other cultures; do not come here and ask others to adopt your ways and traditions. If you cannot accept that Canada was ruled by Britain and we are now a constitutional monarchy, do not live here. It serves no purpose to remove the Queen from our money, nor does it serve any purpose to eliminate the Governor-General or Lieutenant-Governors because their roles are in ceremony only. It is this country's history and culture to show respect to the Queen because of Britain's role in our advent.

We can all live here happily, Canadians born here and immigrants who've moved here, without eliminating that historical nod of respect. Even while recognizing the Queen, Canada respectfully allows many cultures and societies to exist without assimilation, so why should we change a thing?

Edited October 6, 2008 by cybercoma

[jbg]

Pardon me for not running a spellcheck on my fourth language

You receive a royal pardon.

What is the FLQ crisis?

A separatist rebellion in Quebec during 1970, where Pierre LaPorte, a provincial Cabinet minister was kidnapped and killed. The result was countrywide martial law for a period of time during October 1970.

[whowhere]

After all, it was Britain who allowed the French to keep their language, culture and traditions in Quebec, even after they lost on the Plains of Abraham. Although Lord Durham recommended the creation one Parliament so the anglophones would outnumber the French, the francophones were never assimilated, nor is it an expectation today for other cultures to assimilate.

Wow, [Censored out]. Fact Quebec/Canada was lost during the seven year war in Europe. France was blocked from sending reinforcements to defend the colony. France in fact tried. As such Canada fell under British Occupation. A mere 20 years years later France financed and provided the military might which brought about the creation of The United States of F'cking America. It is documented the Canadians (not the so called modern canadian parasites) fought alongside the Americans in their fight for Independence. In a final move to liberate Canada from British Occupation the Marquise Lafayette of France spearheaded a final campaign in 1779 - 1780 to free Canada. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. France's financing of the American Independence led to Collapse of France and rise of Napoleon who wreaked havoc on Europe for 30 years. Napolean crushed and collapsed the acien regime of Europe. It took 200 years for Europe to finally come together as one nation in year 2000. This has all come about no thanks to the United States.

The fact is Quebec is Canada. The Fact is those of Quebec are the original Canadians. The modern parasite Canadians are the joke of the world. When the British Occupied India, did they try to call themselves East Indian? When the British occupied Hong Kong, did they call themselves Chinese? How about the Americans in their occupation of Iraq? Are they now going to call themselves Iraqi? So how is it, the British Occupiers are now trying to assume themselves as Canadian? Amazing.

The fact is the world is moving along. Canada's lone wolf status is outdated and Canada does in fact belong to the Queen of England and it is her possession as is all the other nations within the commonwealth. If the queen should decide to assert her authority on Canada, there will be nothing for Canada to do but take it up with the International Court of Justice. As the queen has deferred all disputes between her and her colonies since 1970 to the International Court of Justice. Gee, I wonder how a European Court would think and opinion on this matter?? Would there be a bias perhaps??

It would be interesting where the dissenters would get their support to remove the Queen from Canada. There will be no help from Britain on that, and those of Quebec will want what is rightfully theirs, an independent and Free Quebec/Canada from modern parasite Canada. If the British are willing to step aside, I am sure France will move in to protect what is quebec's. You can count on it. If this should happen don't expect the United States to help you parasites.

Edited October 7, 2008 by whowhere

[g_bambino]

Wow, how big of you, you stupid ignorant f'cking donkey. Fact Quebec/Canada was lost during the seven year war in Europe. France was blocked from sending reinforcements to defend the colony. France in fact tried. As such Canada fell under British Occupation. A mere 20 years years later France financed and provided the military might which brought about the creation of The United States of F'cking America. It is documented the Canadians (not the so called modern canadian parasites) fought alongside the Americans in their fight for Independence. In a final move to liberate Canada from British Occupation the Marquise Lafayette of France spearheaded a final campaign in 1779 - 1780 to free Canada. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. France's financing of the American Independence led to Collapse of France and rise of Napoleon who wreaked havoc on Europe for 30 years. Napolean crushed and collapsed the acien regime of Europe. It took 200 years for Europe to finally come together as one nation in year 2000. This has all come about no thanks to the United States.

The fact is Quebec is Canada. The Fact is those of Quebec are the original Canadians. The modern parasite Canadians are the joke of the world. When the British Occupied India, did they try to call themselves East Indian? When the British occupied Hong Kong, did they call themselves Chinese? How about the Americans in their occupation of Iraq? Are they now going to call themselves Iraqi? So how is it, the British Occupiers are now trying to assume themselves as Canadian? Amazing.

The fact is the world is moving along. Canada's lone wolf status is outdated and Canada does in fact belong to the Queen of England and it is her possession as is all the other nations within the commonwealth. If the queen should decide to assert her authority on Canada, there will be nothing for Canada to do but take it up with the International Court of Justice. As the queen has deferred all disputes between her and her colonies since 1970 to the International Court of Justice. Gee, I wonder how a European Court would think and opinion on this matter?? Would there be a bias perhaps??

It would be interesting where the dissenters would get their support to remove the Queen from Canada. There will be no help from Britain on that, and those of Quebec will want what is rightfully theirs, an independent and Free Quebec/Canada from modern parasite Canada. If the British are willing to step aside, I am sure France will move in to protect what is quebec's. You can count on it. If this should happen don't expect the United States to help you parasites.

Wow. I didn't know they allowed internet access in the loonie bin.

[seabee]

Wow. I didn't know they allowed internet access in the loonie bin.

Even though I would not use the same type of language that Whowhere has used in his last post, the fact is that each point he makes can be very well defended. In fact, it would take a whole book to defend it, just using period documents. Among the many books that you could find interesting, you could read John Knox "The Siege of Québec"; Knox was in Wolfe's army; his description of what happened in Québec during the winter after Wolfe's victory will be a good start to understand why the English already had to be very nice to the Canadiens. Also, Fred Anderson's "The War that made America" (a very good video adaptation was made from it, both available from PBS) is a study on how the War of Conquest of Canada led to the creation of the separatist movement in the british colonies in America and force England to be very generous to the conquered to avoid seeing their new conquest join the separatists. I can suggest a lot of other good references about that time period.

Edited October 7, 2008 by seabee

[WestViking]

Wow, how big of you, you stupid ignorant f'cking donkey. Fact Quebec/Canada was lost during the seven year war in Europe. France was blocked from sending reinforcements to defend the colony. France in fact tried. As such Canada fell under British Occupation. A mere 20 years years later France financed and provided the military might which brought about the creation of The United States of F'cking America. It is documented the Canadians (not the so called modern canadian parasites) fought alongside the Americans in their fight for Independence. In a final move to liberate Canada from British Occupation the Marquise Lafayette of France spearheaded a final campaign in 1779 - 1780 to free Canada. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. France's financing of the American Independence led to Collapse of France and rise of Napoleon who wreaked havoc on Europe for 30 years. Napolean crushed and collapsed the acien regime of Europe. It took 200 years for Europe to finally come together as one nation in year 2000. This has all come about no thanks to the United States.

The fact is Quebec is Canada. The Fact is those of Quebec are the original Canadians. The modern parasite Canadians are the joke of the world. When the British Occupied India, did they try to call themselves East Indian? When the British occupied Hong Kong, did they call themselves Chinese? How about the Americans in their occupation of Iraq? Are they now going to call themselves Iraqi? So how is it, the British Occupiers are now trying to assume themselves as Canadian? Amazing.

The fact is the world is moving along. Canada's lone wolf status is outdated and Canada does in fact belong to the Queen of England and it is her possession as is all the other nations within the commonwealth. If the queen should decide to assert her authority on Canada, there will be nothing for Canada to do but take it up with the International Court of Justice. As the queen has deferred all disputes between her and her colonies since 1970 to the International Court of Justice. Gee, I wonder how a European Court would think and opinion on this matter?? Would there be a bias perhaps??

It would be interesting where the dissenters would get their support to remove the Queen from Canada. There will be no help from Britain on that, and those of Quebec will want what is rightfully theirs, an independent and Free Quebec/Canada from modern parasite Canada. If the British are willing to step aside, I am sure France will move in to protect what is quebec's. You can count on it. If this should happen don't expect the United States to help you parasites.

You could package that and go mushroom farming.

[g_bambino]

Even though I would not use the same type of language that Whowhere has used in his last post, the fact is that each point he makes can be very well defended. In fact, it would take a whole book to defend it, just using period documents. Among the many books that you could find interesting, you could read John Knox "The Siege of Québec"; Knox was in Wolfe's army; his description of what happened in Québec during the winter after Wolfe's victory will be a good start to understand why the English already had to be very nice to the Canadiens. Also, Fred Anderson's "The War that made America" (a very good video adaptation was made from it, both available from PBS) is a study on how the War of Conquest of Canada led to the creation of the separatist movement in the british colonies in America and force England to be very generous to the conquered to avoid seeing their new conquest join the separatists. I can suggest a lot of other good references about that time period.

No doubt. But you seem to be focusing on the first part of his post; that which regards Quebec. I was more directing my commentary at the final part of his post; that which deals with the Queen and the International Court of Justice. Pure lunacy.

[jbg]

Even though I would not use the same type of language that Whowhere has used in his last post, the fact is that each point he makes can be very well defended.

That kind of language always drives away serious readers.

You could package that and go mushroom farming.

Shittake or portabella?

[PoliticalCitizen]

The monarchy is not needed by anyone in Canada, however, it is a part of who we are and how our nation came to be. How is that archaic and insulting? We were part of the British Commonwealth and to this day The Queen is still our head of state through her representative the Governor General.

What purpose would it serve to make these changes, other than to keep from harming the tender sensibilities of those who come to this country and find disagreement with our history and culture? It is not within the rights of immigrants to demand Canada ignore its history or change the way we do things so that we adopt the history of other nations.

It is possible for everyone to live here and have their own cultures left intact while recognizing the role of Britain and the Queen in our society. After all, it was Britain who allowed the French to keep their language, culture and traditions in Quebec, even after they lost on the Plains of Abraham. Although Lord Durham recommended the creation one Parliament so the anglophones would outnumber the French, the francophones were never assimilated, nor is it an expectation today for other cultures to assimilate.

It's fair to say that we ask the same of other cultures; do not come here and ask others to adopt your ways and traditions. If you cannot accept that Canada was ruled by Britain and we are now a constitutional monarchy, do not live here. It serves no purpose to remove the Queen from our money, nor does it serve any purpose to eliminate the Governor-General or Lieutenant-Governors because their roles are in ceremony only. It is this country's history and culture to show respect to the Queen because of Britain's role in our advent.

We can all live here happily, Canadians born here and immigrants who've moved here, without eliminating that historical nod of respect. Even while recognizing the Queen, Canada respectfully allows many cultures and societies to exist without assimilation, so why should we change a thing?

Well the world has changed and US does a lot more for us than the English queen.

This country's future will be defined by its people who are increasingly less anglo-saxon, and hopefully this whole monarchy thing will be a page of the past soon enough.

Will you get a "historical nod of respect" from the former slaves to their former masters?

Why should we celbrate being someone's domain and not a FREE INDEPENDENT country?

[craiger]

Harper claims parliment is dysfunctional as he wants to be king. Harper is true Monarch

Edited October 7, 2008 by craiger

[g_bambino]

Well the world has changed and US does a lot more for us than the English queen.

This country's future will be defined by its people who are increasingly less anglo-saxon, and hopefully this whole monarchy thing will be a page of the past soon enough.

Will you get a "historical nod of respect" from the former slaves to their former masters?

Why should we celbrate being someone's domain and not a FREE INDEPENDENT country?

Wonderful story of an alternate reality. Tell us more! Are the Anglo-Saxons genetically morphing into vampires? Is that why they've enslaved the Canadian people to build ferris wheels for the English vampire queen? Oooohh...